WET TUMBLER FORMULA WlTH GOOP

[drw]

I teaspoon of Goop hand cleaner instead of dawn liquid soap and a 45 case full of lemi shine cut my wet tumble time in half. When the water gets black, the cases are clean.

[williamwaco]

I teaspoon of Goop hand cleaner instead of dawn liquid soap and a 45 case full of lemi shine cut my wet tumble time in half. When the water gets black, the cases are clean.

Goop is good stuff. I never thought of using it on cases. I will try that for sure.

[rodsvet]

Is that with or without pins?

[retread]

Is that with or without pins?


^^^^^
What he said.

[drw]

With pins.

[bullet maker 57]

I'll have to give that a try. As said above, I would not have thought about Goop.

[Pee Wee]

I add 2oz. Of simple green to my wet wash with turtle quick & easy Zip wax car wash & wax and lemmy shine mix . I wash for 3hrs. (Find that is the magic time) and my brass comes out lookin brand new inside and out.
I dry in hydrater and tumble in walnut for 1 hr. that has been preped with 2 oz of mineral sprits and a shot of nu finish. The walnut treatment is only done about every 3 mo. add the mix to walnut and turn on and let run for about 10 min without brass to pre mix. This brings out the shine and adds a slick coat that makes it run thru the press easier.

[Spector]

drw....what did the Goop cut your cleaning time to and do your cases look new inside and out as Pee Wee describes?

[prs]

I add 2oz. Of simple green to my wet wash with turtle quick & easy Zip wax car wash & wax and lemmy shine mix . I wash for 3hrs. (Find that is the magic time) and my brass comes out lookin brand new inside and out.
I dry in hydrater and tumble in walnut for 1 hr. that has been preped with 2 oz of mineral sprits and a shot of nu finish. The walnut treatment is only done about every 3 mo. add the mix to walnut and turn on and let run for about 10 min without brass to pre mix. This brings out the shine and adds a slick coat that makes it run thru the press easier.

Wow! That be a whole lot of work, are you cases really grungy when they go in? I tumble in citric acid with ultra dawn and water (no pins) and rinse in wash basin. After draining and while still wet I put a tiny dib of case lube on my hands and work my hands through the brass. Dry in food dehydrator. They look like new, except primer pockets have a tiny bit of carbon still once primer is removed, and they go through the dies with greatest of ease.

prs

[Pee Wee]

Yes, I use Trailboss powder and it is really dirty powder. I use this in my 44 mag, and 45 long colt loads. I shoot a game called lawn steel and we shoot any where from 80 to a 100 rounds in 4 games to 5 games. Each game is 50 min. So with old arthritic hands trail boss kicks a lot less. Easy on my hand. We like really Clean brass as we control all aspects of our loads. This is what I like to do and as I'm retired it is just part of my routine and keeps me busy and out of the momma's hair.

[drw]

Yes, they are new inside and out. I have been experimenting with wet tumbling for two years and I found that goop is much faster than anything else I have tried. I tumble 250 cases in less than an hour at 60 rpm. I shoot a PPC revolver and a 45 ACP. I do not usually pick up range brass unless it is once shot. So my brass is not tarnished. It likely would take longer for tarnished, weathered brass.

[dondiego]

I shoot brown, tarnished brass all of the time. Doesn't seem to affect anything for me. It is cleaned for a while in a vibratory cleaner with walnut media to remove any dirt and sand but it still comes out brown and goes through the dies well.

[Bayou52]

I haven't tried Goop but I have substituted auto wash and wax for Dawn. The auto wash and wax cleans just as good as Dawn but the wax component impedes the return of tarnish. Also, 1/4 TSP of Lemi-Shine is used per batch.

Pics say it all:

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg578/Bayou413/IMG_20150514_131144_zps9lgzf4t9.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Bayou413/media/IMG_20150514_131144_zps9lgzf4t9.jpg.html)

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Happy Tumbling -

Bayou52

[dannyd]

Going to have to auto wash and wax

[Bayou52]

Going to have to auto wash and wax

dannyd -

I would enjoy hearing of your results when you have a chance to wet tumble with auto wash and wax.

Bayou52

[hiram]

Pee Wee--
I checked out simple green. It will clean wax off of surfaces. So will Dawn. The Turtle product is made to mix with water. I am going to try The Turtle car wax & Wax with sour salt.

[hiram]

I tried Turtle wash & wax with sour salt and had great results.

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[Pee Wee]

Hiram,
looks good.
Pee Wee

[mongoose33]

dannyd -

I would enjoy hearing of your results when you have a chance to wet tumble with auto wash and wax.

Bayou52

I checked online and there is no particular brand named "auto wash and wax."

What brand do you use or are they all the same? I'd like to try this.

[Nueces]

I use and like Armorall Wash & Wax for the second wash after the initial one with Dawn dish soap.

[mongoose33]

I haven't tried Goop but I have substituted auto wash and wax for Dawn. The auto wash and wax cleans just as good as Dawn but the wax component impedes the return of tarnish. Also, 1/4 TSP of Lemi-Shine is used per batch.

Pics say it all:

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg578/Bayou413/IMG_20150514_131144_zps9lgzf4t9.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Bayou413/media/IMG_20150514_131144_zps9lgzf4t9.jpg.html)

http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg578/Bayou413/IMG_20150221_182103_zpsvs258he5.jpg (http://s1244.photobucket.com/user/Bayou413/media/IMG_20150221_182103_zpsvs258he5.jpg.html)

Happy Tumbling -

Bayou52

Bayou52 PM'd me with his choices for "wash and wax" mix--Armor-All Wash and Wax, and Blue Coral Wash and Wax--and I picked up a jug of the Armor-all this afternoon.

I put the below brass in the tumbler (Frankford Arsenal), added some hot water, a glug of "wash and wax," about a half-teaspoon of Lemi-Shine, and let it go for an hour.

Pretty nice results--I could have run it a bit longer but I'm very happy with the results. There weren't as many suds as when I use Dawn, which was nice.

I'm sold on it.

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[Bayou52]

Hi, Goose -

That's some nice results you got with that Armor All wash and wax. Yes, I think you're right when you say the brass would've gotten shinier with a bit longer tumble time. For brass that was clean when shot, and has only some carbon on it, I tend to tumble for about 2 hours. This gives a highly polished and bright finish.

If the brass was heavily tarnished, like having been exposed to the elements for some time, then about 4 tumble hours delivers impeccable and bright results.

But it's all a matter of personal preference in the end. Clean but unshiny brass shoots as good as brass that looks like jewerly. For me, I happen to like brass that looks like jewelry but that's strictly a personal objective.

Nice goin', Goose!

Happy Tumbling -

Bayou52

[jgh4445]

I put in pins, water, brass, armor all wash and wax and a 1/4 tsp of lemishine. Turn the Frankfort arsenal on for 3 hours and go do something else. My 45 Colt and my 45-70 cases are shot with both black and smokeless powder ( not at the same time). After getting them out of the tumbler, I can't tell them apart.

[DerekP Houston]

Wow my cases aren't nearly that shiny! Ive used corn cob and walnut, haven't seen either clean the interior of the pistol calibers Im reloading. Can I just use my hands to tumble and rinse in the sink?

[jgh4445]

Its the stainless steel pins in the drum rotating about 60 rpm that do the cleaning in my case. Hands won't do it I'm afraid.

[DerekP Houston]

guess I'll be adding a rotary tumbler to the christmas list.