Maine aganst plastic bags, never mind BLM

[Geezer in NH]

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/04/30/midcoast-communities-push-back-against-plastic-bags/

Worry about what?????????????

[MaryB]

Reusable cloth bags are filthy germ carriers! People never wash them and they have been linking to disease outbreaks! Be better to force recycling of the plastic bags!

[starmac]

The same folks that fought the terrible use of brown paper bags and applauded the plastic ones, they didn't like the world they thought would be perfect. Imagine that.
If I am not mistaken, we have a town in Alaska that either outlawed the bags or taxed them, Homer maybe.

[jonp]

What's new. A resident of a liberal state moves into another to get away from all of the rules and regulations and then try's to impose the failed policies that made the state they moved from a hellhole. I watched Vermont go down the tubes from people just like her moving in from Mass, NY, NJ, CT etc.. and destroying it turning it into a socialist paradise that doesn't work.

If she/they want to use fabric re-ususable bags then go ahead. Paper bags were a great use of recycled paper until liberal tree huggers got hot and bothered by them and pushed for plastic. Now they hate plastic and want something else. When your forced to have a reusable bag and that doesn't work out wonder what is next?

[Hickory]

Brown paper bags will come back into vogue.

[Garyshome]

Sorry I've got other things to do, like rest up today for a long difficult week of work.

[mold maker]

Typical short sighted liberal gibberish. When will we learn to just say "He!! NO", and stick by it?

[runfiverun]

well with the liberal policies in place, the paper bag will be back in vogue super quick.
I remember them being used for all kinds of stuff [including Halloween costumes] when I was a kid.
then we all got rich and could afford to throw the plastic bags away.

[leadman]

Many uses for paper bags. If they do get away into the environment they break down pretty fast and don't hang on every fence or in the trees.

[Blammer]

Brown paper bags will come back into vogue.

what I said when they started with the plastic bags.

paper, reusable, unlimited, renewable resource.... what's not to like

they burn better than plastic too...

[Ithaca Gunner]

The store we go to for most of our groceries use the empty boxes the stuff came in to begin with, I in turn cut them up for target backers.

[KCSO]

When I was a kid my Grandma carried her own basket to the country store and loaded it up and carried it back home. She was astounded that in TOWN they gave you a paper bag. Now the store here wants you to bring your own basket...progress!

[Duckiller]

She is a witch, Stone her then send her back to Maryland!

[facetious]

Where we shop thy take the old bags back.

We have a bag hanging in the kitchen that we stuff the used bags in and when it is full we take it back when we go shopping. Thy send them some place where thy melt them down to make more bags or some thing out of them.

It isn't the bags that are the problem, it is how thy are disposed of that that is the problem. The same can be said of most of the stuff we use in life.

[AllanD]

I do a lot of my shopping at ALDI's where you either have to BUY
bags They sell re-useable Brown paper for $0.10, plastic for $0.20 or cloth
for $2.99 or the free alternatives of BYO bag, or collect cardboard boxes while you shop...


I've heated my house for WEEKS on cardboard alone...

Of course my house was built in 1987, so it is very "Tight" and well insulated...

And my modern oil furnace is mostly used to generate domestic hot water.

Most of my heat is generated by burning coal...

Which I use to do all of my lead "smelting" in the cooler months...

My thought is why not do the work of melting scrap when there's going to be a fire anyway?

[winchester85]

town of Carbondale CO has a law on bags, have to buy them. Many small towns in this once great state have decided to make people pay for bags as a way to force people to bring their own.

Little socialist utopias all over the place. They complain about big business like Wal Mart until they need a new TV, they complain about natural gas drilling and pipelines, but heat their houses with natural gas. They drive a Prius, but have a fireplace and burn wood. the list could go on and on.

[JeffinNZ]

Reusable cloth bags are filthy germ carriers! People never wash them and they have been linking to disease outbreaks! Be better to force recycling of the plastic bags!

I think you'll find the mortality rate is a lower than you might imagine.

[76 WARLOCK]

Colorado is full of California refugees who come here and then vote for the **** they left California for.

[jcwit]

My wife bought those "As seen on TV" Grab Bags that hook onto a shopping cart.

http://www.asseenontv.com/detail.php?p=812197&SESSID=498358cab9b91f787cc000eb4df579eb



We could care less what bags the stores offer or the authorities say.

BTW, Germ carriers??

A spray or 2 of disinfectant solves that problem. And I doubt the germ carrying is any worse than my ladies purse. Just think all the places where that has been.

For that matter think of the area where most men carry money. LOL

[MaryB]

Exactly! I recycle as much as possible, compost kitchen waste etc. Why? Because it is good for the planet! Am I a greenie with utopia in mind? Nope! Common sense says reuse and recycle what you can because it takes less energy to reuse that plastic than it does to make it from new. And I HATE people who litter! Local garbage company got busted for not tarping their transport trucks and stuff was blowing all over the roads. They had a fit and threatened to end service over it. We told them fine take a hike and went with a small local garbage hauler.


Where we shop thy take the old bags back.

We have a bag hanging in the kitchen that we stuff the used bags in and when it is full we take it back when we go shopping. Thy send them some place where thy melt them down to make more bags or some thing out of them.

It isn't the bags that are the problem, it is how thy are disposed of that that is the problem. The same can be said of most of the stuff we use in life.

[MaryB]

Medical studies have found them to be NASTY! And they have caused deaths. Far more than any associated with a plastic bag blowing away. A spray of disinfectant dies not get deep down into seams and corners unless you soak the bag. And now you are creating a habitat for antibiotic resistant germs to form... Washing them weekly is key and most don't! And I don't carry a purse for a reason! Things are filthy! Hair brush in the truck if needed, same for makeup etc. My bad shoulders thank me and no setting things on a filthy bathroom floor!

[jcwit]

Your option Mary, my wife and I will continue to use both the "Grab Bags" and the other bags we get at the VA and other places. Been doing it for more than a few years now with no ill effects.

How many women have died from carrying a purse. LOL

Please post a link to these medical studies.

[DoubleAdobe]

Bisbee, Arizona, the hippie utopia of southern Arizona passed this so called bag law a few years ago. It is an ongoing bone of contention with the less enlightened people, but they will sell you a recycled paper bag for 10 cents that you will do well to wrestle out of the car and in to the house without dumping on the ground. It is not a popular ordinance with the people I talk to. I actually used the old plastic bags for a wide array of uses, including trash bags.
http://www.baglaws.com/assets/pdf/arizona_bisbee.pdf

[JeffinNZ]

But what is better than recycling is not using to begin with.

[MaryB]

Here you go! http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/06/reusable-grocery-bag-germs/4341739/ top hit on google!


Your option Mary, my wife and I will continue to use both the "Grab Bags" and the other bags we get at the VA and other places. Been doing it for more than a few years now with no ill effects.

How many women have died from carrying a purse. LOL

Please post a link to these medical studies.

[MaryB]

I use the grocery bags for my recycling then they toss them in with the rest of the plastic! I also use them for picking the garden(filled one with kale today, froze 4 nice sized bags for adding to soups), in the next few days I will use one to pick mustard spinach to ferment like kraut... use it and put it in the recycling. And yes, they make great garbage bags for my office!

[woodbutcher]

:-D I use the plastic bags for all sorts of stuff.Scooping the kitties litter boxes,keep a couple in the truck for a litter bag,liner for the small trash cans in the bathroom and the bed room.All sorts of uses if a person uses that lump on their shoulders for something besides an ear spacer or hat rack.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[jcwit]

Here you go! http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/06/reusable-grocery-bag-germs/4341739/ top hit on google!

Mary, now I'm supposed to believe a study from Ca? About bags stored in trunks of all places, in the heat?

I read a study about dirty bags caused by fresh meat bleeding from the package and contaminating the bag, what stupid idiot would allow that to happen.

Common sense and no worse that the cart one is pushing around the store, likely no worse than the table at your local restruant which was wipped off with a damp towel.

Like I said, do as you wish, as will I, it worked well for centuries.

Hasn't cost my wife or I any sickness that I know of, course we both take our flu shots every year.

[jcwit]

While reusable bags alleviate environmental concerns associated with single-use plastic bags, they bring their own unique challenges as well. At the forefront in today’s market are the bacterial concerns and the risk of cross contamination and food borne illnesses associated with these unwashed bags. To counter this, many retailers are looking toward antibacterial/antimicrobial additives for their reusable bag options as well as bags that are machine washable.

See everything has a solution.

[Lance Boyle]

I knew I hated plastic bags from the beginning. When they came out locally in the 80's I was working one of my first jobs at the supermarket as a cashier. They didn't hold near as much as the old paper bags. In just a few months I was saddened to see on my way home those same plastic bags stuck in the tree top branches where the wind landed them. The back lot behind the store had lots of the stuck plastic bags, but they were everywhere it seemed. Another place that looked like heck was the state highway next to the local landfill. Their trees were loaded with the stupid plastic bags. They'd last a long time up there too, looking like ****.

In NY that truck hauling an uncovered load of solid waste will get a $1000 a ticket. If you live on the roads near the landfill that get the extra trash traffic that's small relief for the **** that ends up in your yard.

Excessive? Maybe but it is a mostly fixable problem through a small effort with a tarp.


ETA- I can't avoid using the plastic bags all the time but they do have uses at home. Currently they've been perfect for give away bags of the extra garden bounty. They're real good for sneaking a bag of tomatoes and cucumbers on your neighbors door handle in the dark of the night. I made the mistake once of using an amazon box with my name and address and got caught giving away produce. Rookie mistake.

BTW Kale, it's what's for dinner. I had some sauteed with garlic last night with my smoked on the barrel cooker chicken. I think tonight is a kale, chicken and caneloni bean soup. It's cool and raining so that'll work.


Exactly! I recycle as much as possible, compost kitchen waste etc. Why? Because it is good for the planet! Am I a greenie with utopia in mind? Nope! Common sense says reuse and recycle what you can because it takes less energy to reuse that plastic than it does to make it from new. And I HATE people who litter! Local garbage company got busted for not tarping their transport trucks and stuff was blowing all over the roads. They had a fit and threatened to end service over it. We told them fine take a hike and went with a small local garbage hauler.

[tdoor4570]

Colorado is full of California refugees who come here and then vote for the **** they left California for.

Have got to agree with you there

[blackthorn]

We fold the bags neatly and I give some of them to a guy that sells used books at the local flea market. I use some to hold grouse I shoot in season. I lay the bird on its back, stand on the wings and pull on the feet, I am left with the breast meat and wings (one of which has to remain attached to the carcass for ID). Some are given to the local thrift store and some are given to different used book stores where I shop. Personally, I would like to see a return to paper bags and glass bottles, or charge a recoverable amount (when you turn the bag/bottle in) the same as on beverage bottles/cans.

[David2011]

Seems like there was a story published on the cost of recycling plastic bags into new ones. IIRC it costs 97 times more to recycle than to make it the first time.

David

[mold maker]

Local Walmart used to have a recycle ben for the plastic bags. Smart azzed thieves just helped themselves and filled them up. Then they left without paying.
Mo more recycle ben now.

[daniel lawecki]

Kroger stores in Tol Ohio offers plastic or paper my wife only gets paper.

[MaryB]

I freeze small portions of kale and chop them and add it to canned chicken noodle soup to give it some nutrition besides salt 8-) tasty stuff. I have a bunch to pick that is insect damaged(got hit with those little green caterpillars...). Thinking steam it, chop it fine and freeze for soups. Soak it first to get all the critters to swim off!


I knew I hated plastic bags from the beginning. When they came out locally in the 80's I was working one of my first jobs at the supermarket as a cashier. They didn't hold near as much as the old paper bags. In just a few months I was saddened to see on my way home those same plastic bags stuck in the tree top branches where the wind landed them. The back lot behind the store had lots of the stuck plastic bags, but they were everywhere it seemed. Another place that looked like heck was the state highway next to the local landfill. Their trees were loaded with the stupid plastic bags. They'd last a long time up there too, looking like ****.

In NY that truck hauling an uncovered load of solid waste will get a $1000 a ticket. If you live on the roads near the landfill that get the extra trash traffic that's small relief for the **** that ends up in your yard.

Excessive? Maybe but it is a mostly fixable problem through a small effort with a tarp.


ETA- I can't avoid using the plastic bags all the time but they do have uses at home. Currently they've been perfect for give away bags of the extra garden bounty. They're real good for sneaking a bag of tomatoes and cucumbers on your neighbors door handle in the dark of the night. I made the mistake once of using an amazon box with my name and address and got caught giving away produce. Rookie mistake.

BTW Kale, it's what's for dinner. I had some sauteed with garlic last night with my smoked on the barrel cooker chicken. I think tonight is a kale, chicken and caneloni bean soup. It's cool and raining so that'll work.

[MaryB]

I prefer the old paper bags. 100% recyclable, sturdier, tons of other uses like making things with my nieces and nephews when they were little. My grand nieces and nephews will miss out on that!

[MostlyOnThePaper]

well with the liberal policies in place, the paper bag will be back in vogue super quick.
I remember them being used for all kinds of stuff [including Halloween costumes] when I was a kid.
then we all got rich and could afford to throw the plastic bags away.
Cut in half correctly you get two man silhouette targets. What could be better?

[woodbutcher]

:twisted: Hope all of you that prefer paper will like this post.Years ago when all that were available was paper,a friend worked at the local Kwik Check(R).
When they unpacked the bales of bags they had to have a pest control tech standing by to spray down the 100`s if not 1000s of ROACHES that poured out of the bales.YUCK.Have fun with pest control at your house.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[Lance Boyle]

oh and you can't put your hot chocolate chip cookies on a plastic bag and get good results. I like the paper silhouette target idea.

Oh and Mary thanks for the idea on freezing the Kale. I have half a bunch left and I think I'll do just that. Freezing actually makes it better for soup in my opinion. The freeze will help break up the cells to soften it for soup. thanks.

[farmerjim]

I sell at farmers markets. I buy the plastic bags by the thousands. They are cheep at 1.3 cents each. I would have to increase my prices without them.

[jcwit]

Amazing!!

My wife just told me she washes the $ .50 to $1.00 cloth? bags every other time she uses them.

So no nasty germs there!

[RayinNH]

Hasn't cost my wife or I any sickness that I know of, course we both take our flu shots every year.

That's another can of worms right there.

[jcwit]

That's another can of worms right there.

Lets not go down that road, but I am a cancer survivor, with congestive heart failure, diabetic, and failing kidney's, so I protect myself by any and all means possible, and my wife also.

[RayinNH]

[QUOTE=jcwit;3392479]Lets not go down that road, but I am a cancer survivor, with congestive heart failure, diabetic, and failing kidney's, so I protect myself by any and all means possible, and my wife also.[/QUOTE

Understood. I wish you well.

[jcwit]

Thank You Ray, and today is my Birthday WooooHoooooo, I made it to 72!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RayinNH]

Thank You Ray, and today is my Birthday WooooHoooooo, I made it to 72!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My wife's Birthday as well. Happy birthday Sir.

[jcwit]

Looks like Oct. 1st is a very good day. Wish her well, and many more!

[woodbutcher]

:-D Happy birthday to the young man and young lady.May you have many more healthy,happy and prosperous ones.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

[blackthorn]

:-D Happy birthday to the young man and young lady.May you have many more healthy,happy and prosperous ones.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

+2
Ralph and Gail

[Geezer in NH]

The Irony here is the Portland greenies hated the paper bags and guess what they are now hating all of the paper plants closing in the state never mind the unemployment of the loggers of the real industry using renewable resources.

So lets tax what we wanted then, our feelings are what truly counts.

They will do the same when now PC hemp bags get old fashion.

Greenies are water melons, green outside leftist commies on the inside. Totally swallowing the 70's era beliefs.