Lee TL452-230-2R for the 45 ACP

[gondwana]

Just ordered myself a new Ruger SR 1911, should have it next week. In the meantime, I need to order a mold and this time around I thought I might try tumble lubing to save some production time. I do have a concern however, and that is what appears to be a bevel base on the boolit from the Lee TL452-230-2R mold ( http://leeprecision.com/mold-6-cav-tl452-230-2r.html ). I have never had as good accuracy from bevel base boolits as I have from plain base or gas checks.

I would really welcome your thoughts on this dilemma. :violin:

[pretzelxx]

Make dummy rounds before you hit up the range and you run into feeding issues.

Sorry, that doesn't really have anything to do with the question.. I'm still sour I didn't follow that rule.

[Yodogsandman]

http://leeprecision.com/6-cavity-452-228-1r.html

This was also available. I'm sure either will do OK. Any boolit can be tumble lubed but, those with the microgrooves will hold more.

[gondwana]

http://leeprecision.com/6-cavity-452-228-1r.html

This was also available. I'm sure either will do OK. Any boolit can be tumble lubed but, those with the microgrooves will hold more.

Thank you Yodogsandman, I already saw Lee's lighter option but I really like the ol' 230 grain round ball in a 45.

[matrixcs]

I have this mold and this gun. The boolit chambers better than the 228 mold as the .452 dia does not extend to the boolit radius. I have no issues with its accuracy 2" or so at 25 yards from a rest.
You will need to determine your best powder/load for your best accuracy.

[jcren]

I shoot the Lee tl230 tc and hg68 clone in a 5" 1911. Both powder coated and tumble lubes will shoot sub 2" at 12-15 yard defensive targets and 8-10" 50 yard groups of hand are not unusual if I do my part.

[HiVelocity]

I have several .452 molds for use in the 3 1911's I own. And, yes, as strange as it sounds, the Lee 230gr TC/BB (one lube groove) is my "Go-to" most of the
time for plinking. I, personally, have never had any problems with this bullet in my guns, nor friends' weapons. On the other hand, for hunting, or woods-hiking, purposes I favor the NOE 230gr HP (small pins) with a plain base. Should I decide to load them in my 45 Colt rifle, I simply add a plain base gas check. These, shown below, are powder coated. (Thank you Smoke4320).

HV

[gondwana]

I have several .452 molds for use in the 3 1911's I own. And, yes, as strange as it sounds, the Lee 230gr TC/BB (one lube groove) is my "Go-to" most of the
time for plinking. I, personally, have never had any problems with this bullet in my guns, nor friends' weapons. On the other hand, for hunting, or woods-hiking, purposes I favor the NOE 230gr HP (small pins) with a plain base. Should I decide to load them in my 45 Colt rifle, I simply add a plain base gas check. These, shown below, are powder coated. (Thank you Smoke4320).

HV

Hey HiVelocity, I like the look of those hollow point boolits. Looks like you apply the gas check and then coat the whole boolit. Correct?

[Motor]

I got the 200gr TC TL and have used it both tumble lubed and powder coated. I've had no issues with feeding or accuracy. A couple weeks ago I tested 50 of the with powder coating in a Glock 30 slim.

Except for a little carbon the polygonal rifled barrel was as clean afterwards as before.

Motor

[Boolseye]

That original mold the OP mentioned (TL452-230 2R) has been a good mold for me, though I ended up lapping it to get it a little fatter. It always feeds, and I've had fellow bullseye shooters rave about its accuracy. This is one of the good TL molds, for my money. Some are better than others. This mold only has a very slight bevel, hardly noticeable (on my 6-cav, anyway).

[mjwcaster]

I have tumbled lubed the 452-230-TC and it worked fine, no leading.
Only about 500 rounds though, had a lot of issues with pin alignment on the 2 cavity I got.

I just got the 6 cavity version and it casts decently (most issues are user related for now).

Definitely go with the 6 cavity version of what you purchase.

From the above response it sounds like the 2R is good to go, I know there are issues with either the 1R or 2R, and I can never remember which one, without doing a search for it.

[Ranger 7]

I have used, and still use the Lee Tumble Lube for all my bullets, including the Lee 200 Gr LSCW six cavity.
No leading, 2" accuracy ay 15 yards.
The "Bevel" you mentioned is a slight bevel to improve seating in the case, without shaving the bullet.

[berksglh]

Lee TL452-230-2R mold

I have the 6 cavity. Have cast about 10K rnds with it, and ran about 2k through my Taurus PT1911. The last 500 or so have been powder coated. The tumble lube was my entry into casting, and you can lube a LOT real quick. But I no longer like it, its just messy to me. The snot on the nose gums up on the ramp and in the barrel. Maybe I over lubed? The powder coated rnds shoot WAY cleaner, and my hands stay clean after loading.

That mold and tumble lube will serve you well for starters.

[11B-101ABN]

I have both the TL452-230-2R as well as the 452-228-1R. My TL452-230-2r mold drops boolits at 237-240gr, but I PC them and size to .452 and they feed through my old Essex 1911, as well as my Beretta Cougar real consistently. My shooting buddy comes over to mooch them and likes them through his Ruger and Springfield .45's with no problems also. The 452-228-1R was sized at .452 also, but gave lots of feed problems and failed to go into battery about 1/2 the time till I had the throat on the Essex throated. Now they all feed well. I have TL molds for 9mm, .40, .45, and .44, have had real good activity with them all. I remember Lee-Menting one but I can't remember which one. I like the six bangers so much, I'm slowly getting rid of my Lyman molds, with the exception of the Loverin Rifle Molds. I have not noticed any difference in accuracy between the bevel based boolits and those without bevel.

[Ifishsum]

I've had very good results with that Lee mold in my 1911s - accuracy at least as good or better than the bulk 230gr round ball loads. I just lightly tumble lube and load them as-cast, with just a thumbnail's width of the front driving band showing out the top of the case mouth. The profile feeds reliably in all 3 of mine, including the old US Gov't one.

[fredj338]

http://leeprecision.com/6-cavity-452-228-1r.html

This was also available. I'm sure either will do OK. Any boolit can be tumble lubed but, those with the microgrooves will hold more.
This was my choice for a Lrn. Never been a fan of TL bullets, but then I always size.