Covenant Health System blocked this site

[David2011]

SWMBO had to visit the endoscopy department at Covenant in Lubbock this morning. In the waiting room I fired up the iPad to get on Castboolits but NOOOOO! Blocked as a weapons site. Just to test I tried to go to the Ponsness Warren reloaders.com site. It was also blocked as a weapons site even though they don't have as much as a pocket knife on their site- only presses and parts. Hope I never have to go to that facility again. That level of anti-gun is ridiculous. Blocking courtesy of McAfee SecurityCenter. SWMBO has been in 4 hospitals and several doctors' offices in the past 12 months, mostly due to an orthopedic issue and this is the only one that has blocked our website.

David

[mtnman31]

Unfortunately, it is pretty common. Lots of public wifi spots block "bad" websites for your benefit. I was at an airport USO a couple weeks back and their wifi had this site blocked.

[edler7]

Try using Onion browser. It usually gets around stuff like site blocking, and will work on an iPad.

It's out there for free or maybe 99 cents...depends on where you find it. Any search engine should bring up information about it and download sites.

[osteodoc08]

My hospital admin doesn't block this sight, thankfully. I'm using their wireless from my iPhone now.

[2wheelDuke]

My local hospitals block this site. I'm paying for 3G so I can visit whatever sites I want to.

[Hickory]

Another example of why political correctness should be illegal.

Free country! You can forget that thought.

[quickdraw66]

Another example of why political correctness should be illegal.

Free country! You can forget that thought.

Your post is contradicting itself. Your saying we should outlaw something (an idea), but at the same time your saying we should be a free country. Furthermore, in a free country, businesses should be allowed to do what they like on their own property, such as banning things they don't like. Freedom is NOT just allowing the stuff we agree with, it's allowing the stuff we disagree with too. Anything less is a form of tyranny no matter how you try to justify it. You can't have it both ways and still call it freedom. That's something both parties don't seem to get.

Now, we should exercise OUR freedom and put pressure on businesses like hospitals to allow sites such as this on their wifi. ;)

[Taylor]

Covenant also refused to remove the stitches from my finger last fall,stating they were not the ones who put them in.I filled a complaint with the BBB and my state rep.

[Hickory]

Your post is contradicting itself. Your saying we should outlaw something (an idea), but at the same time your saying we should be a free country. ;)

Another case where what i said was misinterpreted.
Please reread what I wrote with care and thought, I'm sure you will grasp it meaning.

[quickdraw66]

Another case where what i said was misinterpreted.
Please reread what I wrote with care and thought, I'm sure you will grasp it meaning.
I did. If your posts are being misinterpreted a lot, I'd take that as a sign that you may need to do a better job writing them. :p

[Hickory]

Should I take the time to explain myself? Yes I will, but up to a point. The rest you need to figure out.
Political correctness is not an idea, as you call it. Political correctness is a force used by many to get anyone who disagrees to set down and shut up.
Political correctness can cause you to loose your job, loose your wealth, and in some cases land you in jail for what you think or say. It's not an idea as you seem to think.

In my sentence, "Free country!" Maybe I should have put a question mark along with the exclamation point also for greater clarification. Then I added the qualifier to the meaning by adding "You can forget that thought." I hope this makes what I said clear to you.
If not send me a PM and I will make arrangements to talk on the phone.

[mold maker]

Just ignore the mini minded folks who try to restrict your open minded inquiries.
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[winchester85]

in the past when i had to go to a dentist appointment or eye check up, i would take old gun magazines like shooting times, or american rifleman, or guns and ammo and discretely place them with the other magazines in the waiting room. with all identifying information remove obviously.
the eye doctor clinic was owned by hunters, one use to ask me to take him coyote hunting. but, whenever i went back, the gun magazines were never to be found.

[RayinNH]

whenever i went back, the gun magazines were never to be found.

That's because they needed the space for all the magazines featuring the half dressed Kardashians.

[waksupi]

Covenant also refused to remove the stitches from my finger last fall,stating they were not the ones who put them in.I filled a complaint with the BBB and my state rep.

Heck, I've always taken out my own stitches. Also did the stitching at times.

[dragon813gt]

Covenant also refused to remove the stitches from my finger last fall,stating they were not the ones who put them in.I filled a complaint with the BBB and my state rep.

Different place but I had a choice. Drive two hours to the hospital that did the stitches to have them taken out for free. Or pay a local office to remove them. Apparently even though I have health insurance they wouldn't accept it because they didn't put the stitches in. I paid up since it was only $15 more than my copay. But this still bothers me to no end.

Same w/ the hospital billing. Total bill was something like $800. I paid my copay and thought everything was fine. Received a letter from my health insurance saying that since the hospital was out of network they paid them $120, said it's what the service was worth, and I would be responsible for the rest if they billed me. Glad I have insurance :rolleyes:

WiFi is not public. It's private and the owners can block whatever sites they want. Did you try going to YouTube or Facebook? A lot of places block them due to bandwidth use. I know it sucks when sites are blocked. Either bring your phone and use it as a wifi hotspot. Pay for a VPN service. Or use a browser like Onion. Your phone is the best move if you have service.

[starmac]

LMAO
FREE COUNTRY
One where one business can decide what you can look at on the internet, but another can't decide who he bakes a wedding cake for. Yup free country all right. lol

[jcwit]

Excellant point!

[quickdraw66]

Should I take the time to explain myself? Yes I will, but up to a point. The rest you need to figure out.
Political correctness is not an idea, as you call it. Political correctness is a force used by many to get anyone who disagrees to set down and shut up.
Political correctness can cause you to loose your job, loose your wealth, and in some cases land you in jail for what you think or say. It's not an idea as you seem to think.

In my sentence, "Free country!" Maybe I should have put a question mark along with the exclamation point also for greater clarification. Then I added the qualifier to the meaning by adding "You can forget that thought." I hope this makes what I said clear to you.
If not send me a PM to me and will make arrangements to talk on the phone.

Political correctness is an idea, and idea being force upon us, but an idea none the less. Let me use Socialism as an example. That is also an idea. It's also worked it's way into our country. The government forces you to give into it by sticking a gun to your head. They disguise it as taxes and mandatory government programs. If you comply, then your safe. If you don't, they take away your freedom. If your resist, they kill you. That doesn't mean it's not still just an idea. It's an idea that bad people have taken upon themselves to force you to comply with. The same goes for political correctness.

In your post, you talk about how political correctness should be illegal. Your talking about outlawing an idea, a belief, something you cannot just outlaw and make go away. Also, the act of doing so is in and of itself a restriction on freedom. You cannot outlaw an idea and still call it freedom. Your doing exactly what they are doing, suppressing their beliefs and thoughts. No matter how wrong they may be, they have a right to them just as you have a right to tell them their wrong.

In your sentence "free country? you can forget about that thought!" (and yes, that's exactly how I read it), your basically saying that political correctness is ruining this country. That sentence put together with your first one about outlawing political correctness leads one to come to the rational conclusion that you think America would be more free if political correctness was illegal. That is where the contradiction come in. As I said before, you cannot ban any idea (no matter how wrong it is), and still call it freedom. With freedom, you have to take the good with the bad. Anything less is not freedom, but tyranny. Don't try to ban people's beliefs, change their minds.

Base on what you wrote and your explanation for it, I feel I understood your original post perfectly well. Are your sure you didn't misinterpret mine?

[Hickory]

Send me a PM

[sparky45]

I agree with you Hickory, but you must realize by now that you're wasting your time with any kind of a response. He just doesn't get it or likes to argue.

[quickdraw66]

Send me a PM

I don't think there's anything more to discuss. I understand what you were saying, I was making a point.


I agree with you Hickory, but you must realize by now that you're wasting your time with any kind of a response. He just doesn't get it or likes to argue.

This from the guy who was hurling personal attacks and insulting everyone in two different states the other day? :rolleyes:

[Bodine]

Gheezh oh Pete guys. I am tired of dealing with your incessant whining, complaining and reporting each others posts when you dont agree. There is this wonderful function called IGNORE, I suggest y'all start using it. Now knock this garbage off!

[quickdraw66]

There's a difference between disagreeing and personal attacks.

[Bodine]

Ya know being stubborn and telling a mod what he should do isn't a wise thing to do. I asked politely and as directly as I could. Yet you are choosing to continue to look at it from only one side and tell me I don't know the difference between an argument and a personal attack. Shame on you.

[No_1]

There's a difference between disagreeing and personal attacks.

You seem to be the aggressor on this thread. Knock it off and quit complaining.

[quickdraw66]

PM sent.

[Mooseman]

Quickdraw66 ,
Your posts are borderline antagonistic and after reading them , I would want to fire back at you hard to. Knock it off !
We want positive discussions and you said it yourself in post we are free to disagree , but it doesnt give anyone the right to pick a fight .
THINK BEFORE YOU POST !
Rich

[quickdraw66]

Quickdraw66 ,
Your posts are borderline antagonistic and after reading them , I would want to fire back at you hard to. Knock it off !
We want positive discussions and you said it yourself in post we are free to disagree , but it doesnt give anyone the right to pick a fight .
THINK BEFORE YOU POST !
Rich

The only person in this thread I have a problem with is sparky. Me and hickory just disagree, no hostility at all. I didn't think my post came out that way, and I certainly didn't mean for them too. :confused:

[Hickory]

I guess I can forget the ignore button.
I couldn't find it anyway.

[sparky45]

Gheezh oh Pete guys. I am tired of dealing with your incessant whining, complaining and reporting each others posts when you dont agree. There is this wonderful function called IGNORE, I suggest y'all start using it. Now knock this garbage off!
That's a great idea, I think I will.

[Geezer in NH]

Their WIFI their rule. Simple as that.

[LeadRecycler]

When faced with that type of situation, go in prepared. Have a list of free proxy sites, such as http://free-proxyserver.com/ These sites will allow you to bypass the blocking. However, most workplaces either have these sites blocked or at least frown upon their use. Any competent IT staff will already have these blocked, or at least find out you're using them.

Long story short: use a web proxy, but don't try to use them at work.

[xacex]

Heck, I've always taken out my own stitches. Also did the stitching at times.
Never done the stitching unless using super glue as stitches counts, but I have always taken out my own stitches since I was a kid. I would feel weird letting a doctor take stitches out now.

[starmac]

I had to have stiches in my eyeball once, they used self dissolving stiches. I have to wonder why they don't on other wounds, unless it is just to get another visit out of those that don't take their own out.
Anytime it is a deep enough cut they use the dissolving stiches on the inside.

[David2011]

Their WIFI their rule. Simple as that.

Sort of. My choice with whom I do business even if insurance picks up most of the tab.


When faced with that type of situation, go in prepared. Have a list of free proxy sites, such as http://free-proxyserver.com/ These sites will allow you to bypass the blocking. However, most workplaces either have these sites blocked or at least frown upon their use. Any competent IT staff will already have these blocked, or at least find out you're using them.

Long story short: use a web proxy, but don't try to use them at work.

I am the IT guy at work. It's a large company so I'm just the local support. Our network team has lots of sites blocker but not this one. Too many employees will spend all day looking at YouTube if they could. I don't have or want a personal smart phone because I have to carry theirs 24x7. Using it as a hot spot takes my data plan from unlimited to 10 gb/month. The iPad is a new Air2 so I could activate the SIM if the proxies don't work. Truthfully, I didn't sleep well the night before, had to be at the hospital at 5:00 am and was too tired to work at it very hard.

David

[Harter66]

My pad has its own line that pretty much solves the problem with blocked sites . My Ms and I rarely hit 4 GB unless we are traveling then maps eats up bites pretty fast . Fortunately most of the places we go we only need it for the last 10 miles or so.

This was our last little stitch diddy . Ms let a brand new bale throw gap gate get her . 4" long meat and vessels showing missed them all . They just slathered her up in surgi-seal and steri-strips and sent us on our way .
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It was funny actually the nurse was camped about 2 miles from the gate hunting elk until the day before .

[SeabeeMan]

I'm a bit nervous to jump into this thread considering to posts thus far, maybe I should just start a poll.

I'd avoid trying to read to much into the blocking of this site. They most likely have a DNS filter such as OpenDNS where they just select categories to block. Weapons, porn, alcohol, etc...most of the good stuff. I'm the network admin at my place of employment and we utilize the same service. Things that may not need to be blocked will suddenly come up because of a new search term associated with the site or some other reason without me ever touching the filter. It's their wifi that they are putting out for free, so they can filter it however they want. Likewise, we can choose which businesses to take our business to.

In my case, we are mandated by CIPA to filter the internet and I don't have time to sort through which sites are amazing resources of knowledge (like this one) and which ones are ISIS recruiting sites pushing out copies of the original Anarchist's Cookbook...checking the weapons box catches it all.