Queens Guard.

[Col4570]

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Click on the Picture,what these tourists fail to understand that these Guards are experienced Troops and despite the ceremonial uniform have been fighting in the Sand Box.

[granville_it]

These soldiers certainly aren't to be fooled with.

They have a job to do and wouldn't be there if they couldn't do it.

The rifles have fixed bayonets, and as for them being loaded?, if you have to ask .....

All the best, Mark

[JeffinNZ]

There is a video of this. The clown of a tourist puts his hand on the soldier's shoulder and gets the pointy end of a bayonet thrust at him and yelled at.

[Rustyleee]

You can't fix stupid.

[Hickory]

It has been my experience that East Asians are the most rude and uncouth race of people I've ever encounded in my life. They push and shove you even though they could just as easily pass you without doing so.
They either can't read english or just plainly disregard the signs.
I'll give an example.
4 years ago, I was in Yellowstone, a group about 15 or 20 of these Asians pushed past me on a board walk in the gyser basin and nearly knocked me and my son down, they stopped and two of them walked out on the crusty ground to take close-up pictures of a bubbling gyser. It didn't take long for the ground to give way under them and they were being burned by the hot water underneath the crusty mineral layer. The first three to jump in to help broke through as well. Now, there are five screaming Asians in hot water and the rest are yammering away and trying to help. I did notice one astute photographer recording the whole thing, maybe the Chinese/Japanese have their own version of Darwin.

[Silfield]

It has been my experience that East Asians are the most rude and uncouth race of people I've ever uncounted in my life. They push and shove you even though they could just as easily pass you without doing so.


I have to agree with you.
A few years ago my folks were in Hawaii and visited Pearl Harbour, partly to pay respects to a relative of my fathers who was killed there. They were disgusted by the attitude, disrespect and general behaviour of the Japanese tourists. The event that really got to my dad was during the pontoon tour of the war grave, a bunch of Japs were laughing and joking in what was a supposed to be a very emotional and solemn time. There are signs everywhere asking people to refrain from dropping coins onto the wreck as it speeds up the rusting process-a couple of these so called tourists were emptying the contents of there pockets and even encouraging others on the tour to do the same. My father came close to laying a couple of them out and had to be restrained!
We used to see similar behaviour over here from the Japs but since their economy went South, the Chinese tourists seem to have taken over as the number 1 a##holes.

[akajun]

It has been my experience that East Asians are the most rude and uncouth race of people I've ever uncounted in my life. They push and shove you even though they could just as easily pass you without doing so.
They either can't read english or just plainly disregard the signs.
I'll give an example.
4 years ago, I was in Yellowstone, a group about 15 or 20 of these Asians pushed past me on a board walk in the gyser basin and nearly knocked me and my son down, they stopped and two of them walked out on the crusty ground to take close-up pictures of a bubbling gyser. It didn't take long for the ground to give way under them and they were being burned by the hot water underneath the crusty mineral layer. The first three to jump in to help broke through as well. Now, there are five screaming Asians in hot water and the rest are yammering away and trying to help. I did notice one astute photographer recording the whole thing, maybe the Chinese/Japanese have their own version of Darwin.
Yep, I saw the exact same behavior IN Chattanooga at the Incline Railroad. A heard of Japanese tourists with a tour guide attempted to push through the cattle car line to get to some friends of theirs. The line was running about an hour. I am a muscular 6'0" 225lb male, My wife is not as large as me but knows her way around the gym as well. when they go t to us, we had said to each other, "This aint happening". We both turned around and said nothing, but grabbed the rails of the walkway and stared them down. They stopped right there till the next train came.
Next day at Ruby Falls, two of them shoved past my wife to the ladies room, which she began yelling at them. They just looked at her like she was confused, but it was enough for her to get into the stall.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

not sure what east Asians have to do with queens guard , but there was a story about how the Chinese had to have standing in line lessons before the Beijing Olympics as it was not a practice commonly used in their society , learning to stand in line is a trained behavior that follows either that there will be enough of something to go around , example school lunch , there will be an equal helping of mashed potatoes and brown meat for every student a side of peas and a carton of milk and a cookie for all students in a district each day , In china apparently this is not so

so just imagine the behaviors that would form if while in the 3rd grade there was only rations for the first 1/2 of the class to eat , students would behave like untrained dogs in short order clawing and scratching their way to the front of the line.

or the other way to teach this behavior is to provide such harsh consequences for such behavior that you were better to stand in line and get fed every other day than to break line and be shot

[dilly]

I don't doubt the valor of the Queen's Guard, but I have reservations about whether she is worthy of it. I really don't feel like we need queens anymore, if we ever did need them.

[white eagle]

I can't believe that they think messing with this guard is funny in the first place

[jcwit]

I don't doubt the valor of the Queen's Guard, but I have reservations about whether she is worthy of it. I really don't feel like we need queens anymore, if we ever did need them.

You actually posted this?

Mayhap they feel the same way about our Government and so called leader, and our guard at The Tomb of The Unknown!

[dilly]

While I'm no fan of Obama, it's not a fair comparison because the queen of England isn't really a governmental leader. Mostly she just hosts parties and ceremonies and stuff.

My statement was more out of respect for the troops than disrespect for the queen.

That's all I will say about that as this isn't The Pit and I don't want to turn this into a Pit thread. Start a Political and Religious thread and I'll be happy to respectfully engage in this debate.

Back to the OP, I would expect as much or more if a goofball tourist tried harassing the guards almost anywhere. Harassing a guard could be "harmless" but it could also be a distraction to some other plan so a good guard is kind of no-nonsense. I don't know what the guy was thinking.

[jcwit]

Whether you consider the Queen a governmental leader or not, it is what they wish todo in their country, myself respect that, with no regards as to what she hosts. It is what it is, and yes in today's world she and all of the Royalty need protection.

[Ballistics in Scotland]

You actually posted this?

Mayhap they feel the same way about our Government and so called leader, and our guard at The Tomb of The Unknown!


I'm afraid he was, but it is all quite all right really, because he doesn't have a queen, and is in no danger of having one unless Hilary Clinton achieves the presidency. In which case it will probably be a bit more difficult to get her to read a letter from you or get an individual reply, signed by a secretary but not by an autopen.

There was some controversy about the non-replacement of the royal yacht, "Britannia", which the Queen loved dearly, as the only place she a could live like a private person among friends. "Britannia" was listed as a hospital ship in time of war, but couldn't go to the Falkland Islands in 1982, because she was an oil-burning steam turbine ship, and by that time incompatible with fuel supplies for everything else. But it has recently come out that she was intended as the royal bunker in the event of nuclear war, switching from one sealoch to another nightly in the Hebrides. In the aftermath of nuclear war, any country could be in chaos, with different groups claiming to have this or that basis for considering themselves the government. But in the UK it is the cabinet chosen by the man the sovereign has asked to form a government, and hasn't told to unform it. It is hard to put a price on being the first nation unified for reconstruction.

The sovereign has indeed no official say in legislation etc. But she has the right to dismiss a government any time she wants... provided that it turns out popular with the population. It has never happened, of course, but that is probably because our politicians know that being caught for anything really drastic can result in becoming the man who is talked about for centuries to come.

There is also quite a bit of value in the fact that the Prime Minister is obliged to see the Queen every week, and explain what he is doing with her country. It's mostly just a chore when they start out, but as soon as they get into a tight corner - you know how it is - they find out that she has had the same kind of conversation with every Prime Minister since Winston, and has seen it all before. She is also the only person in the country who doesn't want to stab him in the back for his job, as his friends and allies will. She has a better one. If you could get someone like that to stand behind every US president, it would be cheap at the price.

The Brigade of Guards are indeed fully trained professional soldiers, and like all of those, they have their finer qualities and liabilities. In the Falklands war the Welsh guards performed well, but proved unable to walk across the cold, waterlogged West Falkland because after a long period of public duties in London, their feet weren't up to it. They had to be loaded into two fleet auxiliary vessels, which coincided with an end to some bad weather, and over fifty men were killed in an attack by Argentinian aircraft.

Colonel Vladimir Peniakoff, as a 45 year old Belgian and overweight with high blood pressure, had some difficulty getting into the British Army in Egypt in 1940. But he eventually proved a gifted desert guerilla, and commander of a long-range penetration unit which became officially entitled "Popski's Private Army." He was an informal but judgmental man, who inflicted no penalties whatever except returning a man to his previous unit, and he sometimes gave local Arabs authority over British troops, if they knew the business. He formed a poor opinion of guardsmen in that particular role, possibly because they didn't have the right instinct for informal banditry. Highland Scots were usually good, and I don't believe he thought there was such a thing as a bad New Zealander.

Possibly the most influential of Churchill's scientific intelligence advisers was Dr. RV Jones, who got the job by holding Churchill intent and silent for twenty minutes on their first encounter, in a monologue about the German navigational beams, and the possibility of diverting bombers by bending them. His father was an ex-guards sergeant-major, and he reminds us that not all the British soldiers came back from Dunkirk indomitable and disciplined. He tells how rifles were thrown from train windows near his home, by men who didn't want to carry them. Far more common were men in the last stages of exhaustion, but nothing a week's leave wouldn't put right. In Victoria Station, however, a battalion were lined up on the platform, fully armed, and marched off in perfect order. They were the Guards, and he seems to have thought that all the explanation needed.

[fatelk]

Don't mess with a professional doing his job, especially if he's armed!

I'm sure these guys thought he was a tourist attraction there for their amusement, but it looks like they learned a little respect in a hurry.

I can add the the comments about queues in Chinese culture. A colleague spent a little time in China on business. He hadn't travelled much before and couldn't understand the culture. He was standing in line at the airport at one point waiting to change a ticket or something, and Chinese people kept barging in front of him. He was furious when he got back, but I guess that's just the culture there.

[Col4570]

I don't doubt the valor of the Queen's Guard, but I have reservations about whether she is worthy of it. I really don't feel like we need queens anymore, if we ever did need them.
Dilly,its all about stability and continuity.you probably have never watched The Trooping Of The Colour or the many state occasions.The turn out of those attending is testimony to the respect we hold for our Queen.Of course we have anti monarchists here who look at the world through monochrome glasses.The actual pomp and ceremony here is part of our heritage and is not open for other nationals to interfere with.This is what we are,personaly I am happy and proud to be part of this great country just as Americans are proud to be part of your great country.
The Isis murders of Tourists in Tunisia (mostly British people on vacation)Dominates our news at present and there is mourning amongst many families.The populace here are galvanised against this atrocity, the Queen already making clear her support for the actions required.

[fatelk]

The actual pomp and ceremony here is part of our heritage and is not open for other nationals to interfere with.This is what we are,personaly I am happy and proud to be part of this great country just as Americans are proud to be part of your great country.

Very well put. Many if not most Americans (myself included) have a hard time understanding the British Monarchy system. At the same time, it's clearly a part of what it is to be British, and as such should be respected even when we do things differently. Some day in the future I would love to visit Great Britain and see some of the amazing sites and ceremony you have there.

[Driver man]

The Queen is also Queen of New Zealand , Australia and Canada and we do not want her gone. She has provided us English speaking colonials with a stability and continuity that no politician can. as head of state she is not corruptible and as BIS stated she can ask the Govt to resign. This has happened in Australia with the Whitlam govt being dismissed by the Governor general and despite this Australia has still not gone the republic route. New Zealand has has constant debate over the years about becoming a republic but to replace the head of state with a politician who buys his position with elections being about who can raise the most money, I dont think so. Im not a conscious royalist but cant see a better alternative as yet.

[MaryB]

Somali's are worse! I deal with them grocery shopping and they push you, ram you with carts(one rammed me 3 times until I let my jacket fall open exposing the pistol, she left the cart, grabbed her kids and ran for the door), refuse to move when you say excuse me, and they need some hygiene lessons...



It has been my experience that East Asians are the most rude and uncouth race of people I've ever uncounted in my life. They push and shove you even though they could just as easily pass you without doing so.
They either can't read english or just plainly disregard the signs.
I'll give an example.
4 years ago, I was in Yellowstone, a group about 15 or 20 of these Asians pushed past me on a board walk in the gyser basin and nearly knocked me and my son down, they stopped and two of them walked out on the crusty ground to take close-up pictures of a bubbling gyser. It didn't take long for the ground to give way under them and they were being burned by the hot water underneath the crusty mineral layer. The first three to jump in to help broke through as well. Now, there are five screaming Asians in hot water and the rest are yammering away and trying to help. I did notice one astute photographer recording the whole thing, maybe the Chinese/Japanese have their own version of Darwin.

[MaryB]

Now if we could only get other countries people to quit interfering with our right to bear arms... like Piers Morgan... you brits can have him back, we don't want him!



Very well put. Many if not most Americans (myself included) have a hard time understanding the British Monarchy system. At the same time, it's clearly a part of what it is to be British, and as such should be respected even when we do things differently. Some day in the future I would love to visit Great Britain and see some of the amazing sites and ceremony you have there.

[45workhorse]

You can't fix stupid.
But you can stick it:bigsmyl2:

[Col4570]

Er,no thanks Mary,please keep him.:)

[Col4570]

Very well put. Many if not most Americans (myself included) have a hard time understanding the British Monarchy system. At the same time, it's clearly a part of what it is to be British, and as such should be respected even when we do things differently. Some day in the future I would love to visit Great Britain and see some of the amazing sites and ceremony you have there.
Fatelk and Driverman,thanks for those words.As I see it,it is all about respect for each culture,unfortunately there are those on this planet who only have one selfish agenda,that is to dominate all other cultures.Together our nations will eventually put them into the dumpster of history just as those Gangsters where after 1939-1945.

[JeffinNZ]

Somali's are worse! I deal with them grocery shopping and they push you, ram you with carts(one rammed me 3 times until I let my jacket fall open exposing the pistol, she left the cart, grabbed her kids and ran for the door), refuse to move when you say excuse me, and they need some hygiene lessons...

YES. My wife is a nurse and just deplores Somali men. She has to grin and bare it.

[quickdraw66]

You actually posted this?

Mayhap they feel the same way about our Government and so called leader, and our guard at The Tomb of The Unknown!

I feel the same way about our Government and our nutless "leader". They're all an embarrassment and we'd be better off if we did a complete reset back to 1788.

[quickdraw66]

Er,no thanks Mary,please keep him.:)

Tell ya what. If you take him back, we promise not to send Rosie O'Donnell over there to you...

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

maybe it was history class where we were learning about the continental congress , the declaration of independence , the Boston tea party , when you get 8-9 year olds chanting down with the king , no taxation without representation , give me liberty or give me death , must have been an impressionable age for me.

any thing royal , has always had a sour taste for me

but that is no reason to not respect the guard doing his job , thats the person most deserving of respect so long as he/she is doing it with honor and respect for the people.

In logic I can understand why a head of state may be a uniting emblem of the state , or a pleasant distraction from the politicians.

don't worry , I hold no politician American or any other in any higher regard than any one I would meet on the street

celebrity does nothing for me either , actors , actresses , professional sports players , I can appreciate their work and accomplishments in their field , but feel they need be paid no special attention , there are so many men and women who do such incredible work that is unseen one example my old neighbor Steve spent years working on the delivery method for a vaccine that should prevent tens of millions from a miserable fate . these accomplishments should be celebrated , but the fact of the matter is there are tens of thousands of Steves working in many fields making life better every day in so many unseen ways.

[TenTea]

any thing royal , has always had a sour taste for me



It says right on there...sweet as honey!

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[Duckiller]

Thank you all members of the Commonwealth. We unfortunately have people that should know better but don't that have stupid opinions. They need educating and you have helped. Unfortunately it probably won't do any good because they can't or refuse learn. And they want to tell other people how to live.

[Col4570]

Tell ya what. If you take him back, we promise not to send Rosie O'Donnell over there to you...

Er,how do I politely decline your offer,Without getting the alternative.:cry:

[Col4570]

Thank you all members of the Commonwealth. We unfortunately have people that should know better but don't that have stupid opinions. They need educating and you have helped. Unfortunately it probably won't do any good because they can't or refuse learn. And they want to tell other people how to live.
Yes,I have always had the greatest respect for your nation and would not criticize U S A politics ,a liberty mainly confined to journalists desperate for a story.

[MaryB]

Blackmail! Why didn't I think of that lol :bigsmyl2:


Tell ya what. If you take him back, we promise not to send Rosie O'Donnell over there to you...

[Ballistics in Scotland]

I wonder what would be the result of choosing at random the parents of a newborn child, of considerable but not necessarily academic education, and saying "Accept this substantial allowance to educate your child and keep him out of trouble, because he is going to be President for life when he grows up"?

I can imagine him giving just as satisfactory a performance as seems to be usual for US presidents nowadays. Of course it is debatable whether being a descendent from Odin and Mohammed, and being the nearest living relative of George Washington, all of which Elizabeth II is, is actually better than random selection. But I can't see what would make it worse.

[Driver man]

How is Queen Elizabeth descended from the Prophet Muhammed?





























She is the great (x43) granddaughter of the Prophet, if we can rely on the rather patchy genealogical records of early-mediaeval Spain.

It must be noted, however, that many of our sources from the Dark Ages are disputed or unclear, so it is not possible to make any absolute statements.

The key connections are these:

In 1023, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abbad became the ruler of Seville in al-Andalus. He was formerly a qadi (judge) appointed by the Caliph of Cordoba, but seized power and formed his own dynasty, the Abbadids. He was a descendant of Muhammad through his daughter Fatima and grandson Hasan ibn Ali.

In 1091 the Almoravids from Morocco invaded Muslim Spain, and his grandson Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad lost his throne. His daughter Zaida fled north and took refuge at the court of King Alfonso VI of Leon. She became his mistress - the king was already married, but his wife was bedridden with illness. Zaida later converted to Christianity, took the baptismal name Isabella and - once the king's previous wife died - married him, bearing him three children that we know of.

In 1352 Maria de Padilla, a descendant of Zaida and Alfonso, became the mistress of King Peter 'the Cruel' of Castille. They had four children - two of the daughters married sons of King Edward III of England. It is from Isabella of Castille and Edmund, Duke of York that the current Queen of the UK is descended.

Here's the ancestry in full:

Elizabeth II, Queen of the UK - daughter of
George VI, King of the UK - son of
George V, King of the UK - son of
Edward VII, King of the UK - son of
Victoria, Queen of the UK - daughter of
Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn - son of
George III, King of Great Britain - son of
Frederick, Prince of Wales - son of
George II, King of Great Britain - son of
George I, King of Great Britain - son of
Sophia, Electress of Hanover - daughter of
Elizabeth of Bohemia - daughter of
James I/VI, King of England, Ireland & Scotland - son of
Mary, Queen of Scots - daughter of
James V, King of Scots - son of
Margaret Tudor - daughter of
Elizabeth of York - daughter of
Edward IV, King of England - son of
Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York - son of
Richard of Conisburgh, Earl of Cambridge - son of
Isabella Perez of Castille - daughter of
Maria Juana de Padilla - daughter of
Maria Fernandez de Henestrosa - daughter of
Aldonza Ramirez de Cifontes - daughter of
Aldonza Gonsalez Giron - daughter of
Sancha Rodriguez de Lara - daughter of
Rodrigo Rodriguez de Lara - son of
Sancha Alfonsez, Infanta of Castile - daughter of
Zaida (aka Isabella) - daughter of
Al-Mu'tamid ibn Abbad, King of Seville - son of
Abbad II al-Mu'tadid, King of Seville - son of
Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abbad, King of Seville - son of
Ismail ibn Qarais - son of
Qarais ibn Abbad - son of
Abbad ibn Amr - son of
Amr ibn Aslan - son of
Aslan ibn Amr - son of
Amr ibn Itlaf - son of
Itlaf ibn Na'im - son of
Na'im II al-Lakhmi - son of
Na'im al-Lakhmi - son of
Zahra bint Husayn - daughter of
Husayn ibn Hasan - son of
Hasan ibn Ali - son of
Fatima - daughter of
Muhammad (pbuh) and

















The tracing of the kings and queens of the Royal House of David from Old to New Testament days is an exciting and rewarding study. Though it is sometimes suggested that our Royal House is of German origin, this is not factual. The rule of the Stuarts ended unhappily and Cromwell came to power; but, tiring of his discipline, the people restored the monarchy; thus the nearest lineal descendant of the Royal House of Stuart was sought. https://www.cai.org/files/images/theme-sheets/ni/i2013

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The daughter of James I was Elizabeth, who married the King of Bohemia. Their daughter Sophia married the Elector of Hannover and their eldest son became George I of England. Thus, the great grandson of James I became King of Great Britain and Ireland in 1714, introducing into the sovereignty of this United Kingdom, the House of Hannover and of Brunswick.
Our present Queen, Queen Elizabeth, is a direct descendant of King David of the Old Testament.
Though it might be suggested that George I was half-German, this is not so, for his father, Earnest Augustus of Hannover, and his grandfather, Frederick of Bohemia, were both descended from Odin and Frea. Odin (or Wodin) was descended from Calcol and Dardan, who were Zara-Judah's sons. Thus the alliance of Elisabeth and Sophia only strengthened the Judah line: thus, although some members of the Royal line resided in Germany for a period. German Kings never ruled Britain at any time.
The Royal College of Heralds in Britain accepts this direct line of descent from King David to Queen Elizabeth II as factual.

It is an interesting world we live in.

[walltube]

Driverman,

Thank you for your interesting and informative post.

I do not see Alfred the Great, a German of Saxon lineage, in your list of 'who begat who'. Alfred the Great, to my knowledge, is the only Monarch of England so named "....the Great". Any comment is much appreciated.

Y.T.,
Harold