Artful
06-07-2015, 02:32 AM
I URGE ALL MY FRIENDS TO READ & SHARE THIS;
YOU COULD SAVE A LOVED ONES LIFE BY KNOWING THIS SIMPLE INFORMATION!!!
Stroke has a new indicator!
They say if you forward this to ten people, you stand a chance of saving one life.
Will you send this along? Blood Clots/Stroke - They Now Have a Fourth Indicator, the Tongue:
During a BBQ, a woman stumbled and took a little fall - she assured everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) ...she said she had just tripped over a brick because of her new shoes.
They got her cleaned up and got her a new plate of food. While she appeared a bit shaken up, Jane went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening.
Jane's husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to the hospital - (at 6:00 PM Jane passed away.) She had suffered a stroke at the BBQ. Had they known how to identify the signs of a stroke, perhaps Jane would be with us today. Some don't die. They end up in a helpless, hopeless condition instead.
It only takes a minute to read this.
A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
>>RECOGNIZING A STROKE<<
Thank God for the sense to remember the '3' steps, STR. Read and Learn!
Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify. Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer severe brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.
Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:
S *Ask the individual to SMILE.
T *Ask the person to TALK and SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. Chicken Soup)
R *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.
If he or she has trouble with ANY ONE of these tasks, call emergency number immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.
New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue
NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue. If the tongue is
'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other that is also an indication of a stroke.
A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved.
oldred
06-07-2015, 11:41 AM
Thanks Artful good information
Most likely NOT!
The urge to "forward this to ten people" just screams "Internet BS"! These "urgent" -send to everyone you know- Emails are nonsense, some are based on qusi-fact but most are just total boloney. Just like the ones about stolen UPS uniforms and terrorists, the total BS warnings about cell phones and gas pumps, etc these things are dreamed up to see just how far they can go and while this particular one may or may not have some merit does it not strike anyone odd that the first place it shows up is in an Internet Email? Sure it MIGHT have some basis in fact but until it shows up in mainstream I wouldn't put much into it and I certainly wouldn't be the sucker that helps spread another Internet "chain rumor".
Sorry but when an Email starts with "urgent tell everyone you know" it really should start with "Once upon a time" and is just catering to the scammers who dream up this stuff to see, for fun or profit, just how far it will go!
oldred
06-07-2015, 12:40 PM
One more warning about these scam "urgent News" Emails is that often they contain malicious software and the purpose of forwarding them is to infect peoples computers with spyware and other types of virus rather than to get the word out about a real threat! A lot of them are harmless and are nothing more than attempt from a person to have the satisfaction of simply seeing their creation "go viral", thus they dream up these interesting "facts" to get as many people's attention as they can to have them spread around. I know one kid personally who does this, he is a collage student that is a friend of my son and while his subject material is not suitable for a family oriented site such as this he delights at seeing his creations show up on different websites being taken as the truth! Others are not so benign however and are designed to get inside your computer releasing a, usually subtle virus that runs quietly, when the Email is opened, when you forward this Email to friends/family they too become infected. These viruses can range from simple snooping for advertisement purposes to malicious software designed to steal credit card info, passwords and bank account information so rather than spread this stuff around DON"T forward it to anyone you like and for goodness sakes DON'T EVEN OPEN IT!
Artful
06-07-2015, 01:06 PM
Stroke/info doesn't think so!
http://strokeinfo.org/archives/1159
This BS myth (it has been bounced around in the medical community but has been determined to have little merit) has been around since at least 2011, I first heard about 3 years ago, and it has yet to be made mainstream info except for it being just another Internet hoax.
People don't fall victim to these goofy Emails! By repeating this and spreading it around or even just saying "thanks for good info" you are playing right into the scammer's hands! Don't help these people do this nonsense!
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/stroke.asp#RJguX3QrboR6v05E.99
A stroke is a serious medical event, both because it can (and does) kill, and because it can inflict long-term harm on those lucky enough to survive it. There are two types of acute stroke: ischemic and hemorrhagic. Ischemic strokes account for 80 percent of all such "brain attacks" and occur when a blood clot lodges in a vessel responsible for supplying blood to the brain, killing off part of that organ. Hemorrhagic strokes occur when a blood vessel in the brain ruptures, resulting in bleeding which causes swelling and hematoma and ultimately impairs brain function.
The advice given in this much-circulated e-mail appears to be sound, although it needs be pointed out that it has yet to be endorsed by the American Stroke Association. It was drawn from a report presented in February 2003 at the American Stroke Association's (ASA) 28th International Stroke Conference, and news of it can be found on the American Heart Association's (AHA (http://web.archive.org/web/20050207194904/http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3008841)) web site. However, as the ASA says in its official statement (http://web.archive.org/web/20060212193343/http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3032226) about the report, though the research was funded by a grant from the ASA, that body has not taken a position on the topic nor endorsed the test because the results, though positive, arose from a very small study.
If the study's findings hold up, it would mean that recognizing a stroke has taken place would be something just about anyone could do and would be a skill worth mastering in light of the importance of getting medical attention for stroke victims at the earliest possible moment.
Focal neurological signs such as slurred speech, unilateral facial droop, blurred vision, discoordination, and partial or total paralysis are often indicative of some sort of brain dysfunction and would be recognized as important markers by those in the medical profession. However, expecting laypeople to diagnose that something has gone terribly wrong in a loved one on the basis of that checklist would be reaching for too much; in that key moment few would be likely to remember what they were supposed to be looking for.
The e-mailed advice, as circulated in 2006, contains this additional suggestion:NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out their tongue. if the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other, that is also an indication of a stroke.
While that is also likely true, as a test it is far less valuable than the original three because there is room for interpretation of the results. How crooked is crooked, after all? How far to one side does the tongue have to go before its having done so can be regarded as a clear sign of a stroke having occurred? Better to discard this fourth suggested 'test' in favor of remembering the first three.
By distilling the assessment process down to three simple tests (smile, raise both arms, speak a simple sentence), anyone is likely to remember what to ask of someone they suspect has just undergone a stroke and to correctly interpret the information so gleaned. (The tests are pass/fail, after all, so if the person they were administered to couldn't smile, couldn't raise her arms, and was incoherent, the party observing all this wouldn't be at a loss for what to make of the results — she'd conclude her friend had undergone a stroke.)
And it is important laypeople learn to recognize such events, because a new drug has been shown to limit disability from strokes caused by clots (ischemic) provided victims receive it within three hours of the onset of stroke symptoms. Tissue plasminogen activator (tPA (http://web.archive.org/web/20040211041720/http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4751)) is a clot-busting drug administered intravenously in cases of ischemic stroke; however, only one in fifty stroke patients has a chance of this drug helping them because currently only 2 percent of them reach an emergency room in time for tPA to be given.
(It's possible tPA's effectiveness can be boosted by simultaneous massaging of the clot with ultrasound. Early results from a 2004 study performed in Houston on coupling this drug with such treatment are most encouraging.)
A 2005 updating of the e-mail included this statement:A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a stroke... totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke recognized, diagnosed, and then getting the patient medically cared for within 3 hours, which is tough.
While getting appropriate medical care for a stroke victim as soon as possible is extremely important, doing so does not come with a 100% guarantee that a stroke identified and treated within a 3-hour timeframe will not cause permanent damage.
The warning signs of a stroke are:
Sudden numbness or weakness of the face, arm, or leg, especially on one side of the body.
Sudden confusion, trouble speaking, or understanding.
Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes.
Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance or coordination.
Sudden, severe headache with no known cause.
Ergo, for once there's a "Send this to everyone you know!" missive afoot that really does contain highly useful and important information. Yet the Internet, while sometimes used to disseminate actual fact (such as the above), is also often used to spread utter nonsense. Consider the following piece of cyber advice about strokes, which we first saw in December 2003:First Aid for Stroke
When stroke strikes, the capillaries in the brain will gradually burst. When a stroke occurs, stay calm. No matter where the victim is, do not move him/her. Because, if moved, the capillaries will burst.
Help the victim to sit up where he is to prevent him from falling over. Again, and then the bloodletting can begin. If you have in your home an injection syringe, that would be the best, otherwise, a sewing needle or a straight pin will do. Place the needle/pin over fire to sterilize it, and then use it to prick the tip of all 10 fingers. There are no specific acupuncture points, just prick about a mm from the fingernail. Prick till blood comes out. If blood does not start to drip, then squeeze with your fingers. When all 10 digits is bleeding, wait a few minutes then the victim will regain consciousness.
If the victim's mouth is crooked, then pull on his ears until they are red. Then prick each ear lobe twice until two drops of blood comes from each ear lobe.
After a few minutes the victim should regain consciousness. Wait till the victim regain his normal state without any abnormal symptoms then take him to the hospital, otherwise, if he was taken in the ambulance in a hurry to the hospital, the bumpy trip will cause all the capillaries in his brain to burst.
If he could save his life, barely managing to walk, then it is by the grace of his ancestors.
I learned about letting blood to save life from Chinese traditional doctor Ha Bu-Ting who lives in Sun-Juke. Furthermore, I had practical experience with it. Therefore I can say this method is 100% effective.
In 1979, I was teaching in Fung-Gaap College in Tai-Chung. One afternoon I was teaching class when another teacher came running to my classroom and said in panting, "Mr. Liu, come quick, our supervisor has had a stroke!" I immediately went to the 3rd floor. When I saw our supervisor, Mr. Chen Fu-Tien, his color was off, his speech was slurred, and his mouth was crooked — all the symptoms of a stroke.
I immediately asked one of the practicum students to go to the pharmacy outside the school to buy a syringe, which I used to prick Mr. Chen's 10 finger tips. When all 10 fingers were bleeding (each with a pea-sized drop of blood), after a few minutes, Mr. Chen's face regained its color and his eyes' spirit returned, too.
But his mouth was still crooked. So I pulled on his ears to fill them with blood. When his ears became red, I pricked his right earlobe twice to let out 2 drops of blood. When both earlobes had two drops of blood each, a miracle happened. Within 3-5 minutes the shape of his mouth returned to normal and his speech became clear.
We let him rest for a while and have a cup of hot tea, then we helped him go down the stairs, drove him to Wei-Wah Hospital. He rested one night and was released the next day to return to school to teach. Everything worked normally. There were no ill after-effects.
On the other hand, the usual stroke victim usually suffers irreparable bursting of the brain capillaries on the way to the hospital. As a result, these victims never recover. Therefore stroke is the no. 2 cause of death. The lucky ones will stay alive but remain paralyzed for life.
It is such a horrible thing to happen in one's life. If we can all remember this bloodletting method and start the life-saving process immediately, in a short time, the victim will be revived and regain 100% normality.
We hope you can tell others about this first aid method. By doing so, stroke may be removed from the list of major causes of death. Forward this after reading. It will be a good deed indeed.
As mentioned earlier in this article, there are two types of acute stroke: ischemic and hemorrhagic. However, there are also two kinds of strokes: acute and transient ischemic attack (TIA). The former is the sort that takes lives or leaves those it strikes with permanent and all too often heartbreakingly serious disabilities. With the latter, the focal symptoms resolve within 24 hours, leaving no permanent neurological deficit. With that in mind, the "miraculous recovery" described in the e-mail above would have been due to the patient having weathered a TIA episode, not to having had his blood drained from his fingers and ear lobes.
Because the underlying patholophysiology is the same between acute stroke and TIA, it's important to seek immediate medical attention for all stroke victims. TIA is also often a warning sign heralding increased risk of stroke. (In high risk demographics, the risk of stroke goes up ten-fold after a TIA.)
As for not moving a stroke victim because so doing might cause "irreparable bursting of the brain capillaries," the initial insult (stroke) has already occurred, so transport is unlikely to cause further harm.
With regard to pricking fingers to get them bleeding as a possible counter to strokes, according to Dr. Rupinder S. Sahsi of Guelph, Ontario, a medical doctor of our acquaintance, "I see no physiological reason why minute amounts of peripheral blood loss would have any effect on cerebral blood flow." In other words, pricking a stroke victim's fingers to get each of them to drip blood isn't going to do anything to aid that person.
However, taking the time to stab the victim's fingers before bothering to transport him to a hospital, with even that done at a low speed, will cause harm, because when it comes to obtaining proper treatment for stroke victims, time lost is brain lost. Our physician friend counsels: "Do not wait for the symptoms to resolve before taking a casual drive to the hospital in your vehicle, as suggested by this e-mail."
Getting a stroke victim to an emergency room in time for tPA therapy to be begun is the most important thing you can do to help prevent further brain damage. Do not waste any of that brief window of opportunity by driving at a snail's pace or by stopping to stab the person's fingers and ear lobes.
You know I'll add any possible 'test' as I know people that can't raise their arms well before a stroke happens, and can't be that coherent in normal life.
http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20719000,00.html
1) blurry vision
Stroke can cause double vision, blurred vision or loss of vision in one eye.
But it may not be as well recognized as facial weakness, arm weakness, and speech problems.
When 1,300 people in the U.K. were asked what symptoms occur in stroke, only 44% knew vision loss is a strong indicator.
2) Difficulty speaking
When former Chicago Bears coach and Hall of Fame tight end Mike Ditka suffered what doctors told him was a “very minor stroke,” one of the symptoms he experienced was difficulty speaking.
Stroke can impair the ability to express yourself or understand speech. One test: Repeat the phrase “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks.” Are you slurring words, using the wrong words, or are unable to speak? If any one of these occurs, there’s a 72% chance you have had a stroke.
3) Weak arm or leg
When you’re having a stroke, it’s common for an arm or leg (or both) to suddenly go weak, numb, or to become paralyzed. Often the affected limb is on the side of the body opposite from where the stroke occurred in the brain.
Extend both arms (palms up) for 10 seconds. If one arm drifts downward, that indicates muscle weakness, a sign of stroke. Another test: With eyes open, lift each leg separately.
4) Dizziness or loss of balance
If you are dizzy, nauseous or have trouble walking, people may think you’re intoxicated when, in fact, you’re having a stroke.
Patients may confuse stroke symptoms with other conditions, says Dr. Chaturvedi, director of the Wayne State University/Detroit Medical Center Stroke Program. “Sometimes sudden dizziness is attributed to a viral syndrome when it can be the sign of a stroke,” he notes.
5) Pain
Pain is not a typical stroke symptom. But if you have sudden pain in an arm, a leg, one side of your face or chest, don’t brush it off.
A study found women experience non-traditional stroke symptoms 62% more often than men, and one of the most common is pain.
6) Severe headache
A sudden, severe headache, perhaps the worst you’ve ever had, is a common stroke symptom.
One study involving 588 patients found people who experienced headache with the onset of stroke tended to be younger and have a history of migraine. Women were more likely to have a headache with stroke than men.
Dr. Chaturvedi and colleagues found young adults with stroke symptoms, including migraine, are sometimes misdiagnosed. “If they have stroke-like symptoms, they should request a neurology consult or brain MRI in the emergency room,” he said.
7) Droopy face
Sudden, one-sided facial weakness can be a sign of stroke.
Emergency medical personnel will ask you to smile or show your teeth. If one side of your face sags or doesn’t move, that could mean you’re having a stroke.
8) Fatigue or mental changes
A recent study of gender differences in ischemic stroke, the type caused by clots, found that women having a stroke were more likely than men to experience general weakness, fatigue, disorientation, and change in mental status.
Another study found 23.2% of women reported altered mental status, compared with only 15.2% of men.
9) Hiccups
Usually, hiccups are a minor nuisance.
But when stroke affects the brain’s breathing center, it can trigger a sudden, protracted case of hiccups, more commonly in women.
10) Breathlessness or heart palpitations
Can’t catch your breath? Feel like your heart is racing or fluttering? A study of gender differences in stroke found that women are more likely to experience these kind of symptoms.
oldred
06-07-2015, 01:37 PM
http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/stroke.asp#RJguX3QrboR6v05E.99
You know I'll add any possible 'test' as I know people that can't raise their arms well before a stroke happens, and can't be that coherent in normal life.
Nothing new here and you are ignoring the fact this "URGENT info" has been around for years yet is still ONLY found in Internet warnings and discussion of hoaxes! I did point out this is, as is a lot of these scam Emails, based on Quasi-fact -that is they take something that has at least some merit and distort it to mean far more than it really does! This Scam Email here, and it IS a scam as it has been around and discussed for several years now, takes the fact that the tongue can be affected during a stroke and twists it into an urgent warning sign when it is not! As has been pointed out the tongue indeed can be affected as can about any other part of the body BUT the tongue symptoms can vary from case to case or very often not even manifest at all so it is not a reliable indicator that warrants "Breaking news" (especially 4 or 5 year old "Breaking news" LOL,) that supersedes established practice!
Why is it people will insist on the dramatic with the truth be damned? The Internet makes supermarket tabloids pale in comparison so why people would spread around "Urgent information" that is mysteriously found only on the 'net is beyond me, this is the type of thing you can find in the National Enquirer alongside the Elvis sightings so why repeat it? Just plain old fashioned common sense should indicate a red flag for anyone that an unsolicited Email urging people to forward it or pass it around to as many others as they can has an ulterior motive. I am not going to make any apologies for calling BS here because this has been kicked around on the 'net for years and that's the only place it's likely to be found, as I said before the BS part is the fact that it's trying to be passed off as a "New discovery that urgently needs to be spread around" when it is none of those things! It is NOT new, being several years old, and is of questionable value that obviously has not been accepted to the point of being implemented by the medical community, when it becomes accepted by mainstream medical organizations then it becomes news but not from a BS "Pass-it-around" Internet Email!
ANYTIME an unsolicited Email, or even one from a relative/acquaintance, starts out with the urging to "pass it on to as many as you can" that's a dead give away as to what it really is and you can bet your bippy that it really should have started with "once upon a time"!
If you want to take this old re-hashed Internet BS story and insist it's fact go ahead but it's already been passed around from years ago and is nothing new. Nothing came of it then and nothing is new now, you fell victim to a "pass it around" Email scam and nothing more! If you're lucky that's all that happened but you probably should run a virus scan just to be sure!
oldred
06-07-2015, 01:59 PM
Ok I see you modified your post? And that proves what? That's good established information there but what does it have to do with the "urgent" tongue symptom that needed to be passed around? Did you get any of that through a "pass it along" Email?
The danger from BS warnings can be that people might very well waste valuable time dwelling on useless information instead of following established procedures, some of which your post mod lists. My point is not about this tongue nonsense, and I have pointed out repeatedly that it has been discussed by reputable sources, rather my point is the danger and pure folly of repeating and spreading an Internet hoax! This particular one offers no helpful information although it purports to but instead merely distorts an observed symptom that manifests itself in SOME cases and in VARIOUS ways and attempts to make the reader believe it's a viable indicator that needs to be adhered to! HOWEVER, even that is not really what the Email is attempting to do, the author probably couldn't care less about spreading life saving information but rather it is obvious that the real attempt is to gain the recipient's attention for the purpose of getting them to spread this thing around, the urging to spread it around is the dead give away here! The reasons for their wanting it spread around can vary and we already have been over that but you can bet that good will is not one of the reasons!
oldred
06-07-2015, 03:26 PM
A doctor told me if someone is having a stroke, give them two aspirins. He says it does exactly the same thing that the $1300 shot they give you when you arrive at the emergency room does.
Nope you are wrong, that shot is $2700! Or at least it was for my cousin last year!
This is another thing that should make people fighting mad because it's pure greed and it IS taking money out of all of our pockets whether we need the medicine or not! I know the Pharmaceutical companies will point to research and Governmental regulation costs for the obscene pricing of life saving medicines such as those "clot-busters" but there's simply no way they can justify the kind of costs they get for such a small amount of these medicines. Obviously they are going to be expensive and cost way more than a bottle of aspirin but $1300 to $2700 for just the one shot? It's nothing more than a hostage situation where they demand your money or your life and people let them get away with it because they don't see this cost unless they get into a situation where they have to have it and don't have an insurance policy to pay for it. They should see however because they are paying for it, you, me, all of us are paying through the nose in higher insurance premiums but I suppose the $2700 question is what do we do about it?
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