Can someone tell me what small block motor this is?

[Just Duke]

Can someone tell me what small block motor this is?

[oneokie]

Ford.

[Dark Helmet]

289 or a 302

[oneokie]

Could also be either a 260 or 351 Winsdor.

[albertzn17]

It looks to me like 351w there should be a serial number on the side of the block

[Beagle333]

My .02..... it's not a 351, the top bolt for the timing covers would be farther down (nearly an inch and a half), due to a taller deck on the 351 than the 302.

And it's usually stamped on the head.

[TXGunNut]

Late 60's or 70's. Casting numbers would help ID it. Look for something starting with C8OE or D0OE or something similar.

[Hardcast416taylor]

All that is left after the car was stolen and chopped?Robert

[Ford SD]

Ford.

http://www.fordification.com/tech/engineID-V8.htm
The quickest way of differentiating between the different familys of Ford engines is to simply count the valve cover bolts.

6 bolts: 221/260/289/302/351W

http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/How_to_identify_SB_Ford_heads_without_pulling_them

from a quick internet search
With out knowing the numbers on block/head

302 best guess

Does it have 4 bolt mains?

[Just Duke]

It has a 2 bolt main.

[Just Duke]

Z 2736 D 161631 This is marked on the top of the block Inside in the casting in the lifter valley it says 80
Thanks again for all the help guys

[Just Duke]

All that is left after the car was stolen and chopped?Robert

I inherited it.

[Just Duke]

Wcp od1 78

[starmac]

The intake on a 351 windsor will be 1 1/2 in wider than a 302 or 89, due to the taller deck height. Heads, number of valve cover bolts, even the valve covers themselves are the same. The heads off of a 351 or 400 even though a lot bigger block will actually bolt on a 302, but takes a skinny aftermarket intake.

[bikerbeans]

Ford made V8s with overhead valves?;-)

BB

[goste]

The pedestal non adj. rocker arms indicate a mid 70's up small block. Going by lifter valley width, from what I can see, i would believe a 302..

[high standard 40]

I worked at a Ford dealership for a number of years. Just judging from the photo, I'd say definitely not a 221 or 260 and most likely not a 289. I would say it's a 302. Since the pans and covers are off, check for a casting number on the crankshaft. A parts store or the Ford dealership can then tell you what it is.

[Geraldo]

It's been thirty years since I worked in an engine shop, but I could still recognize a Ford. Now you just need something to drop it in.

[ascast]

i recommend you shoot it with a 45-70-550

[Beagle333]

I never worked in an engine shop, nor for a Ford Dealership, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last summer and I'm going with 302. 8-)

[Hogtamer]

i see where to pour the lead but how do you cut the sprue on an 8 banger? Didn't know ford made molds anyhow.

[runfiverun]

the distributor location and direction is a giveaway to it being a ford.
dodge had the distributors in the back on their small blocks like chevy did, but on the front of their big block engines.

it is probably a fairly early 70's 302, the later ones said 'made in mexico' under the intake manifold right on top of where the cam-shaft went.

[RED333]

It aint a Bow Tie motor is all I can tell ya.

[Butchman205]

Looks to me like an early '70's Ford 302...which is a great motor. They made 210hp stock, but a good cam, intake, and 750 carb combo will put you right in the 3-320hp mark, and they LOVE nitrous...especially a 250hp shot!!!

[Geraldo]

It aint a Bow Tie motor is all I can tell ya.

Probably how I knew it was a Ford is that anything other than Chevy stood out. We worked on at least 10x the number of Chevy engines as anything else. In terms of numbers:
1) Chevy small block
2) Chevy big block
3) Ford
4) Mopar
5) English-Jag, MG, etc

[Butchman205]

I raced mustangs for years, and actually won the track "Champions Race" at Holiday Beach Raceway years ago here in Alabama.
I loved Fords...and nearly everybody else raced Chevys. I tried to always keep a few select Chevy parts to trade the Chevy guys out of any good Ford parts they stumbled across.
The 289 and 302 motors were fun with nitrous...because they make a heavenly sound when turned up to about 8k-8500 RPM's.

[MaryB]

Back in the early 80's a friend had a 70 Mustang Mach One he rebuilt, 428CJ, everything balanced, barely street drive able cam... and nitrous... first time he fired it up and we test drove it(I was a grease monkey, grew up racing stock cars) he pulled a wheel stand off the light and beat a KZ1000 bike. Friend on the bike said it was the first time a car every beat him. With nitrous it was really fast but I am amazed he didn't melt anything. If memory is right he was running 12.5:1 compression. Helped him build that car from the ground up, was a fun project. He helped me go through the engine on my sleeper car. I drove a Gremlin X with the 401 V8 and a 4 speed! Guys laughed and pointed at it until I stood it on the bumper then left them in the dust.

[Butchman205]

Nothing like cool old memories with friends...

[TXGunNut]

Ah yes, the golden age of pony cars and small block V-8's. Believe it or not today's "small block V-8" motors outperform stock motors of that era by a good margin and stay together for quite a bit longer and hit higher RPM's than the original stock pony car motors.
And Mary, that 428CJ wasn't a "small block". It's what was called an "FE" motor and for good reason, it contained a good bit of "Fe", lol. I've been known to use a cherry picker on the intake alone even in my younger days. And you're right, it was built right. Hopped-up big blocks have a habit of catastrophic failure, even if built right. FE motors didn't fly apart near as often as bowtie motors but both liked to come apart as only a big block motor can.
Please don't flame me, bowtie fans. I've raced only bowtie motors but have made a good living off motors that fly apart, be they bowtie, blue oval, or mopar.

[jonp]

Back in the early 80's a friend had a 70 Mustang Mach One he rebuilt, 428CJ, everything balanced, barely street drive able cam... and nitrous... first time he fired it up and we test drove it(I was a grease monkey, grew up racing stock cars) he pulled a wheel stand off the light and beat a KZ1000 bike. Friend on the bike said it was the first time a car every beat him. With nitrous it was really fast but I am amazed he didn't melt anything. If memory is right he was running 12.5:1 compression. Helped him build that car from the ground up, was a fun project. He helped me go through the engine on my sleeper car. I drove a Gremlin X with the 401 V8 and a 4 speed! Guys laughed and pointed at it until I stood it on the bumper then left them in the dust.

A 401 Gremlin? Fun!!!

[WRideout]

You may be a geezer if you truly believe there hasn't been a good American car built since 1970.

Wayne

[MaryB]

This is why the Gremlin X was fun, his is more modded than mine was, I just did a cam change and better intake and carb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaYAXsA3BDA

[obssd1958]

MaryB,
I was a GTO freak when I was younger, (even President of the local Pontiac club), but my favorite ride was a '74 Gremlin X. It was all decked out with dark blue metal flake paint, 304 V8, Holley 500 carb, Hooker headers into 4" "Purple hornies" , 3 speed manual on the floor, Hurst shifter, 3.73 posi rearend from an AMX, L60-15's on the back...
Waaaayyy too much fun!!!!!!!!!



Edit: Sorry for the thread drift, Duke! [smilie=1:

[bhn22]

A Gremlin huh?

Where's the rest of your car?

[MaryB]

Hey! They were fun to drive even with the AMC straight 6! With the 401 shoehorned in mine had serious issues with body twist. Like getting the doors open was difficult most of the time. If I had kept it(wish I had!) it would have went on a frame rack and had the unibody stiffened with braces.

[shdwlkr]

talking muscle cars mine was a '70 plymouth gtx with a 440, dang thing liked 100mph and gave me 16 mpg at the speed