ML postal match

[Bullshop Junior]

whould any one be interested i n doing a ML postal match?
Someting diffeant for a change.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[SWIAFB]

caplock shooter or in-line ? I'd be in. SWIAFB

[waksupi]

What's a caplock? What's an inline? Any handicap for old blind farts who can't see thier sights anymore?

[Bullshop]

waksupi
You sandbager! Yer gona have ta spot us a few points.
Maybe we can get Jr. to run an OBF class for the more mature shooters.
BIC/BS

[SWIAFB]

waksupi' yer jerking the chain. I've ben shotting black powder m/l for 24 years.....

[Bullshop Junior]

how bout
classes.
scoped inline
iron sight inline
iron sight cap lock
iron sight flint lock.
5 shot targets
50 yard off hand and 100 yard bench.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

What's a caplock? What's an inline? Any handicap for old blind farts who can't see thier sights anymore?
ya.
200 yard off hand iron sight.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[MT Gianni]

25 yard Pistol class? Gianni

[singleshotbuff]

I'd be in for a 50 yard, caplock, open sights target. 100 yards will probably be a lost cause with my eyes and iron sights, but I'll give it a try.

SSB

[standles]

Medic44 told me to pass along that if someone would loan him a rifle he would be glad to compete (He would mail it back as soon as he finished his target).


I am in up to 100 yds as my range does not have further distance.


Steven

[DanWalker]

I'm in! Gotta get off this rig sometime in order to shoot it though.

[Bullshop Junior]

Hay! never said I was going to put this thing on. Thats waksupis department. I just asked if any one was interested.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Buckshot]

................I'd be in for it. I have a couple Enfields that need some excersize.

...................Buckshot

[waksupi]

Hay! never said I was going to put this thing on. Thats waksupis department. I just asked if any one was interested.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

Don't be raising MY hand. I'm too busy. YOU volunteered!

[MT Gianni]

Dan'l tell your Mom that measuring targets will do wonders for your math skills. Don't let it affect your swedging time. Gianni

[standles]

So Dan...

What are the rules and your addres sto mail completed targets to ?


Steven

:mrgreen:

[Bullshop Junior]

ok
how about
Any gun With out scope.
Round Balls only.
50 yards off hand
100 yard bench.
5 shot groups.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

Don't be raising MY hand. I'm too busy. YOU volunteered!
Your meen!:mrgreen:
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[MT Gianni]

Set an end date now JR. You are the Honcho in Charge. Gianni

[Bullshop Junior]

may 15.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop]

I have had a talk with Jr to try and get this going without confusion.
His rules are,
#1 any iron sighted rifle, cap, flint, inline, or whatever as long as it is shooting a patched round ball.
#2 5 shots for group off hand at 50 yards
#3 5 shots for group rest at 100 yards
Now I have proposed to him and he has agreed and as long as it is OK with everyone else,
#1 there will be a $5.00 entry fee payable to 45nut to benefit the site.
#2 The Bull Shop will offer as a prize 1lb of speed green or NASA lube (your choice) for the best group in each class.
#3 The Bull Shop will offer a $20.00 gift certificate for Bull Shop products, the winner to be drawn by Ken ( if he is willing) from the list of entrant's
#4 cut off is may 15 to post mark targets, it would be nice if you include the load, cal, rifle type and pertinant info with your target
That sound reasonable?
BIC/BS

[45nut]

I'll certainly help with the drawing and send a CB bumper sticker to the Steenking Pistol class winner.
Lett'er Rip!

[waksupi]

Just some thoughts, and I'm sure some others may chime in, to say I'm full of crap. This refers to patched round ball rifles.
100 yards will eliminate some of the potential shooters. If they have a squirrel rifle in .32-.36, the accuracy will be falling off after around 60 yards, if that. .40-.45 will generally shoot up to around 80 yards well. 90 yards seems about the end of best .50 work. After that, you get into rifles that carry a bit better.

[Bullshop]

Waksupi
You are no doubt correct about the range limits on the differant calibers. I have no clue being relatively new to ML. I am however trying hard to catch up now having aquired about 7 in the last year or so.
One of these is a TC hawken with a GM 32 cal barrel. I took this very new to me rifle out last week and at 50 yards was absolutely amazed at the accuracy. So encouraged by that I tried at 100 yards and was well pleased with the results. It was a reasonably calm day but not without some wind. Not knowing what I am up against I would shoot the 32 and have fun. I also shot a 58 cal rifle that seems to be something of a frankenstein made up from parts of others. It did very well also and I had great fun. Not knowing what to expect for accuracy I was looking for something acceptable to hunt with for game that may be hunted with each caliber.
For the big caliber I was happy to be able to hit my paper plate target at 100 yards. The gun bettered that by 100% so I was happy. For the small gun at 50 yards it would be capable of making head shots on rabbits at 50 yards. At 100 it seemed to do about as well as the big gun but there were a couple unexplainable wild shots that were out of the group by about a foot, weird.
I guess in my ignorance I am going at this with a winning dont matter attitude and that just being there is enough fun that it dont matter. Still being a hunter I am always looking for at least acceptable accuracy for that or I would loose interest fast. The fact that I am a beginer and right off the bat have gotten acceptable accuracy for hunting tells me that the ML is capable of far greater accuracy than I had thought and that they will hold my interest as I progress from my idea of good to your idea of good.
I know its going to be lots of fun along the way.
As for Jr's match no matter what the outcome this site will benifit and that will make us all winners.
God bless
BIC/BS

[waksupi]

The match is a great idea, just pointing out some of the eccentricities of the smaller calibers. It sounds like you met some of the gremlins, with those flyers way out of the group! Wind is not our friend!

[Moose]

50 yards is my practical limit, due to this and that.. but sure, let's doit toit. Joyous Easter, guys!

Moose

[jim4065]

Is there a pistol class? $5 per class? I'd sure like a chance to put the Lyman 54 up against a 25 yard target. It would generate more cash for the site and would also give me more cleaning time - always a plus. :mrgreen:

[waksupi]

What is the address we are sending targets to? I got my offhand shot, and embarrassing as it is, I will send it along.
I did bench my old Beckwith before I started in. I got a group a group of about an inchat fifty yards. Then I moved on out to the hundred yard range. The group opened up to around a foot, so I won't even bother sending that one. I'm pretty sure that one wasn't all operator error, just the .43 cal. ball loosing stability at that range.
I then shot the fifty yard off hand. I managed to jerk the trigger well enough to get about a five inch group. Sure wish I could still see, and didn't shake like Hillary at an NRA convention.
I did make a sight adjustment. I had fine sights on this old Pennsylvania flint rifle, and I took a round file to the rear sight, and opened things out as far as I could. It now works like half an aperture sight, and is MUCH better for older eyes. Still doesn't do anything for mirage, but definitely an improvement.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/waksupi/Ksend.jpg

[Bullshop]

Now that is perty!
Targets go to,
The Bull Shop
HC 62 box 5640
Delta Junction Alaska 99737
Pistal class??? I guess if ya get a few others ta shoot it I will put up a prize. We dont have a ML pistal right now but we do have a good reason to get one.
If we keep adding more clases I will have to come up with some bee's wax.
He is risen! God bless
BIC/BS

[jackley]

Maybe I missed it somewhere. What targets do we use?

Jerry

[waksupi]

Maybe I missed it somewhere. What targets do we use?

Jerry


It ain't my party, but we generally shoot for group size. Most likely, whatever you can see best!

[jackley]

Thanks Waksupi

And might I add thats a fine looking shooting iron you have there.
Jerry

[Bullshop]

Well for me the broad side of a barn might work. I will just keep shooting until I have 5 on it. Good thing I wont have to ship it though.
If you can hit something smaller that will fit into an envelope go for it.
fishawk, you got over 7 weeks so its too early to make excuses. I am saving mine up.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[MT Gianni]

Now that is perty!
Targets go to,
The Bull Shop
HC 62 box 5640
Delta Junction Alaska 99737
Pistal class??? I guess if ya get a few others ta shoot it I will put up a prize. We dont have a ML pistal right now but we do have a good reason to get one.
If we keep adding more clases I will have to come up with some bee's wax.
He is risen! God bless
BIC/BS

I have a Lyman plains pistol 50 cal and I'll go in @ 25 yards. Gianni

[Bullshop Junior]

any target you want
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

Is there a pistol class? $5 per class? I'd sure like a chance to put the Lyman 54 up against a 25 yard target. It would generate more cash for the site and would also give me more cleaning time - always a plus. :mrgreen:

I think $5.00 for person.
Will have to ask dad.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[madcaster]

now THAT is a purdy rifled gun Waksupi!:-D

[jim4065]

..............................
I did make a sight adjustment. I had fine sights on this old Pennsylvania flint rifle, and I took a round file to the rear sight, and opened things out as far as I could. It now works like half an aperture sight, and is MUCH better for older eyes. Still doesn't do anything for mirage, but definitely an improvement.

Any chance you could post a picture of that rear sight? I've got the same problem with the 32.

[waksupi]

Any chance you could post a picture of that rear sight? I've got the same problem with the 32.

Jim, sorry, my camera is at work. Pretty simple deal, though. Just file away a large semicircle in the sight. My front sight was sighted so it was basicaly even with the top to start with, so the sides you leave on the rear, give you a centering and elevation reference.

[freedom475]

I think I want in on this....a few questions.... from what I've read it sounds like my Flintlock will be competing at 100yrds with someones TC oncore?? this will be a tough one:mrgreen:

For the pistol can a cap and ball be used or just a traditional ML?

I realise this is "honor" system so is it the first target that I shoot or the best target out of 50 that I shoot?

This sound fun....let me know

[Bullshop]

freedom475
Shoot as many as you want and send in the best ya got. This is just for fun and its about getting out and shooting. If ya have trouble hitting that 100 yard target with your flinter shoot till ya got 5 on it and send it in.
Someone else may shoot a TC encore but they still gotsta shoot patched ball so a quick twist boolit barrel aint gonna help much.
You got a C&B revolter, shoot it, dont matter.
Be sure to send your $5.00 entry fee to 45nut so your eligable for the prizes.
Most important go shoot and have fun.
I shot some targets today with the 32 cal. 50 yard off hand went perty good only using up about half of my clasic paper plate target. 100 yard bench not quite as good using up all the plate. One target has 4 shots in about 4" right in the center of the plate, but #5 deceided to start eating at the edge of the plate.
If I can steel another day for this I may try shooting my 58 cal Frankenstien.
I really do like that 32 though. A ball for it weighs 45gn and a powder charge is a 44 mag case full.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[SPRINGFIELDM141972]

If we are trying to get enough people for a pistol class, then I'm in with a 1858 Starr .44 cal. How many do we need for this class anyway?

Regards,
Everett

[Bullshop]

springfieldm141972
At least one. But if your the only one it wouldnt be good to place second. Dont worry about it, just send 45nut your entry fee and your in for the prizes.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[Bullshop]

Waksupi
We got your target today. There wasnt much info on it. Is this your 50 yard off hand or 100 yard bench? If it was your off hand target and you want to go with a bigger cal for the 100 yard thats OK, no problem.
You had your entry fee in with it but that was supposed to go to 45nut. We will pass it on to him so you will be eligable for the drawing.
Me n Jr. sent in our entry fee's but if we get drawn or win one of the shoots we plan to re donate the prize back to the site for auction.
I got a set of targets shot with the 32 but just cuz theres so much time left may shoot again with Frankenstein58.
The 32 turned in about the same results for both targets. We had a calm day so everything else got put off and I shot.
BIC/BS

[waksupi]

Waksupi
We got your target today. There wasnt much info on it. Is this your 50 yard off hand or 100 yard bench? If it was your off hand target and you want to go with a bigger cal for the 100 yard thats OK, no problem.
You had your entry fee in with it but that was supposed to go to 45nut. We will pass it on to him so you will be eligable for the drawing.
Me n Jr. sent in our entry fee's but if we get drawn or win one of the shoots we plan to re donate the prize back to the site for auction.
I got a set of targets shot with the 32 but just cuz theres so much time left may shoot again with Frankenstein58.
The 32 turned in about the same results for both targets. We had a calm day so everything else got put off and I shot.
BIC/BS


That was a 50 yard offhand. If I get time, I'll get out my .54, and go for the 100 yd. Bench.

[jackley]

When it quits snowing and blowing here I will break out my .62 flinter and give it a whirl. We shot in our trap league today and the wind was behind us birds were low flyers.

Jerry

[flintlocknfur]

Room for 2 more? We'll do the pistol also..

[Bullshop]

Yes Sir there is plenty a room and plenty a time. Jr. put the closing date at mid may.
So far Waksupi is leading the pack so if ya just cant stand bein beat by a fella wut does bead work (no offence Brother) ya better had send in some targets.
Remember for the $5.00 entry fee ya gets ta shoot in each class and are eligable to win a spectaculous prize by your shooting skill. If yer shootin iron wudnt makin magic on paper ya kin still win the same spectaculous prize from the drawing.
If any yall thinks ya dont stand a snowballs chance in hell shootin against the likes a masters like me n Waksupi you kin still send 45nut yer 5 bucks n be in the drawin.
There, hows that fer bein PC, make everbody happy.
Keep yer nose to the wind boys, n shoot straight.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[flintlocknfur]

Ive been beating Ric for years... :)

[MT Gianni]

I shot my offhand targets today and had a couple of fliers that went close to the point of aim. I'll mail them anyway. Gianni

[Bullshop Junior]

you got 29 days left.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[redneckdan]

Whats the cheapest way to ship a shot up refridgerator door to alaska?[smilie=1:


Well for me the broad side of a barn might work. I will just keep shooting until I have 5 on it.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[madcaster]

Cash ON DELIVERY!!!:kidding:

[Bullshop]

We dont need the actual door there Danny boy. Just spread a tape measurer out for referance and take a picture, then send a copy of the picture. You may want to keep the origonal for your records and to satisfy potential legal issues that may arrise over the authenticity of such precision.
For these same reasons I have cataloged my broad side of a barn.
Blessings
BIC/BS

[Bullshop Junior]

we only got 4 targets so far, encluding dads barn.
Only got 19 days left.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[wiljen]

So far mine has patterned more than grouped with RB - still playing with it though.

[Bullshop Junior]

come on guys. 14 days left.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

9 Days left.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

just 3 days.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Beerd]

the good shooters always wait until the last minute [smilie=1:

[Bullshop Junior]

Last day!!!!
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

over!
Will wait one week befor posting results.
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[Bullshop Junior]

25 Yard Off Hand Pistol Class.
First Place---

Moose- 1.409--Uberti 36 cal 10gn FFFG.

Second Place

MT Gianni- 3.819--Lyman Plains Pistol 50 cal 28gn Pyrodex P .490" WW RB CCI primer.

50 Yard Off Hand Rifle Class
First Place

Bullshop-3.135--T/C Hawken with GM 32 cal barrel.

Second Place

Waksupi-5.023--45 cal? 60gn FFFG.

Third place

Beerd-5.344--T/C Hawken 50 cal cap lock .490" RB 65gn Goex FFG.

Fourth place

MT Gianni-6.619-- T/C Hawken 50 cal 60gn Pyrodex WW ball

Fifth Place

Moose-7.886-- 36 Cal cap lock

100 Yard Bench Rest Rifle
First Place

Bullshop-4.644--T/C Hawken with GM 32 call barrel.

[waksupi]

Thanks for running the shoot, Jr.!

[MT Gianni]

Good job with the shoot Jr. Gianni

[Bullshop Junior]

I will get you for this Ric!:twisted:
BIC/Daniel/BS Jr.

[madcaster]

Anyone remember the letter by a fella in "Buckskin Report" about having problems turning a target in for a Postal Match?The same fella also wrote some funny articles...

[Bullshop]

OK so it looks like Waksupi wins the 50 yard off hand rifle, and Moose wins the 25 yard off hand pistal. Fellas if you would please let us know your preferance for lube, NASA for BP or Speed Green for smokless, and PM an addy we will get your prizes to you.
We still have an entry fee that has to get to 45 nut to be eligable for the drawing so stay tuned for that.
Thanks for tryin and God Bless!
BIC/BS

[waksupi]

Auction off my prize, and give the proceeds to the board.