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popper
04-14-2015, 12:27 PM
http://imgur.com/a/LAdE3?gallery. Great Mil. photos. The ship is the Wisconson, BB64.

Artful
04-14-2015, 12:34 PM
Great find - awesome pictures!

M-Tecs
04-14-2015, 01:35 PM
Very very cool.

square butte
04-14-2015, 01:43 PM
Like it

Rick Hodges
04-14-2015, 03:21 PM
Nice....love them.

pworley1
04-14-2015, 03:27 PM
Thanks for posting them.

popper
04-14-2015, 04:13 PM
Your welcome. I was noticing the sideways 'wake' from the full broadside, amazing.

Bad Water Bill
04-14-2015, 04:39 PM
A GM-1 was my boot camp instructor and formerly a BB gunner during WW2.

He said when they fired all of their guns at once the ship was pushed IIRC 20 feet sideways.

I can not imagine what that did to their hearing.

dale2242
04-15-2015, 07:38 AM
Very cool.
Thanks....dale

Handloader109
04-15-2015, 07:57 AM
Thanks for posting, if I were being pushed out a plane, I'd need a muzzle on too!

captaint
04-15-2015, 11:10 AM
Now, that was most cool. Very good. Thank you for that.

waynem34
04-15-2015, 11:37 AM
I think if you were on deck when they fired all those bad boys your hearing was the least of your worries. I don't know for sure but Wow! Nice pics Thanks

tryNto
04-15-2015, 11:58 AM
Your welcome. I was noticing the sideways 'wake' from the full broadside, amazing.
Nice find Thank you.
I also noticied that 'wake'. Awesome.

Bad Water Bill
04-15-2015, 12:15 PM
Can anyone guestimate the pounds of black powder burned in just one salvo?

roots911
04-15-2015, 12:31 PM
Thanks for posting the pictures. They are great.

Echo
04-15-2015, 01:30 PM
A GM-1 was my boot camp instructor and formerly a BB gunner during WW2.

He said when they fired all of their guns at once the ship was pushed IIRC 20 feet sideways.

I can not imagine what that did to their hearing.

I read that someone said that being hit by the muzzle blast from the 16-inchers was like being run into by a truck with a mattress on the bumper. On the other hand the muzzle blast from the 5-inchers was like being hit with a big plank.
And I doubt that that 60,000 ton ship would barely move sideways when all the main battery went...

Bad Water Bill
04-15-2015, 02:09 PM
I doubt that that 60,000 ton ship would barely move sideways when all the main battery went...

A couple of "land lubbers"have doubted that statement but who am I to argue with a GUNNERS MATE FIRST CLASS that was there and done that.

tdoyka
04-15-2015, 02:19 PM
very nice!!!!

BruceB
04-15-2015, 02:41 PM
The main-battery 16" guns used SMOKELESS powder in bags for the propellant.

900 pounds was a common load, and each of the bags of powder had a small black-powder charge to help get the powder burning correctly.

AMAZING INSTRUMENTS!

Kskybroom
04-15-2015, 03:09 PM
Awesome... How long does it take to teach a dog to jump...

Mk42gunner
04-15-2015, 03:16 PM
Something tells me those dogs didn't appreciate jumping very much...

Robert

white eagle
04-15-2015, 05:18 PM
excellent thanks for sharing

JeffinNZ
04-15-2015, 06:16 PM
Your welcome. I was noticing the sideways 'wake' from the full broadside, amazing.

A beautiful thing. More powder burnt in that moment than this entire forum has.

waynem34
04-15-2015, 07:57 PM
It takes some time. The muzzle is the first step. Next run and jump trick! Can it pull the rip cord? TTandem works best?

Plate plinker
04-15-2015, 09:57 PM
I've heard that the battleships moved sideways when firing. How much is debatable , but physics is physics and there is a bunch of it happening when they were send rounds down range.

SSGOldfart
04-15-2015, 10:18 PM
Thanks

Bad Water Bill
04-15-2015, 10:18 PM
A 2.600 # shell + 900# of powder X how many guns produces ???? recoil?

Please do not try that at your local range.:bigsmyl2:

waynem34
04-15-2015, 10:35 PM
Electronic? Right? It will push a ship some but not a lot. If you was stuck on deck when they fired these guns. You would be dead or blown overboard. Few have survived it but not many.

BruceB
04-16-2015, 12:38 AM
I finally went to Google and asked: "Do battleships move sideways under recoil?"

Up came a very scientific article WITH MATH to prove that NO, the ship does not move appreciably under recoil forces.

Ask the question for yourselves on Google, and prepare to be educated on the topic. Very interesting.

Bzcraig
04-16-2015, 01:06 AM
What's not to like?

Southern Son
04-16-2015, 05:22 AM
Did anyone else notice the M-16 caught in the back blast?

As to the battle ships moving thing, I was thinking they don't, untill I saw on of the photos of the broadside and at the bow it looks like the water had rushed around it. Small (compaired to what was happening on the water under the guns), but still there.

Mk42gunner
04-17-2015, 12:02 AM
My shooters were tincans- a DDG and an FF both with 5"/54's, I did make one Westpac with the USS Missouri though.

If you look at the pictures of the 16" broadside, and look at the wake, you will see the ship does not move sideways 30 or 60 or 80+ feet. The wake is still in line with the axis of the ship.

Robert

Blacksmith
04-17-2015, 08:35 PM
Awesome... How long does it take to teach a dog to jump...

Up on the couch not long, out of a plane a little longer; but not as long as it would take to get me to do it.;-)

SeabeeMan
04-18-2015, 01:56 PM
Those are awesome! I've got a few pics from FEX and live fire where we captured mortars going out or AT-4's igniting, but it's all crappy low res stuff since we were using burst mode. Really cool moments to capture...my favorite is the TOW missile still riding on the booster, before the flight motor kicked in.

bullet maker 57
04-18-2015, 02:07 PM
Awesome I pictures. Thanks

scb
04-18-2015, 03:37 PM
Fantastic pictures, thanks. I'd hate to have been the guy in the third pix. Wonder what the "pucker factor" of that experience was? Is that a Harrier? Looks like a lot of fuel and/or a lot of ordinance. Is ordinance like that "safe" in a fire or will it "cook off"?

Bad Water Bill
04-18-2015, 03:47 PM
Yes it will cook off.

Read up on the Forrestal disaster in Viet Nam.

scb
04-18-2015, 07:40 PM
Yes it will cook off.

Read up on the Forrestal disaster in Viet Nam.

I remember that and I thought that was the cause. Didn't know if somehow there had been a change all thou I'll admit I have no idea how. I've also been told thou again have no first hand experience that one can cook dinner using C4 as fuel. Something I would have to see done from a safe distance.

Bad Water Bill
04-18-2015, 08:21 PM
Thankfully the navy has been filming all activities on the flightdeck for more years than I can remember and YES it saved my neck one time as well.

But that is another story for another time.

SeabeeMan
04-18-2015, 10:26 PM
I've also been told thou again have no first hand experience that one can cook dinner using C4 as fuel. Something I would have to see done from a safe distance.

I've been told the same thing. Mythbusters did an episode where the confirmed that it will safely burn in a manner comparable to several other food heating fuels but busted the idea that you could stomp in. I'm pretty sure that involved a robot leg with a combat boot on.

1Iron
04-19-2015, 07:06 PM
Really Fantastic photographs.

1Iron