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Johnch
03-06-2008, 08:40 PM
I got this today and thought I would pass it along
It might save someone some $$

John


THIS IS AN OFFICIAL GUNSAMERICA FRAUD ALERT



Do NOT send payment to anyone asking you to use TRUSTe.
If the price of an item is unusually low - be suspicious.
If you suspect fraud, email GunsAmerica customer service.


There is a group of con artists who are targeting buyers on private selling sites such as GunsAmerica.
These frauds advertise items they do not have, take your money, then never deliver.


One very common ploy they use is to send an email to you telling you about TRUSTe secure payments.
They will also try to convince you that GunsAmerica has approved payment through TRUSTe.
This is a scam!!
They will also tell you GunsAmerica has a payment protection program or buyer protection plan - this is not true.
We can not and do not have a payment protection program.


HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF:
Be sure to read our FAQs on FRAUDS & SCAMS.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/FAQ.htm#fraudscams


Most scams of this type will be selling items at a very low price.
Always question a deal that seems too good to be true - because it probably isn't true.
Always get the seller's first and last name, address, phone number, and the name of the FFL who will be shipping to your FFL (if applicable).
If the seller does not want to give you the FFL info, he must at least give it to your FFL dealer before you make payment.
Always check a seller's name, address, and phone number in known databases (white pages, USPS.com, etc.).
NEVER send payment using MoneyGram or wire transfers - they are almost always used by scammers.
If you do not feel comfortable, if something doesn't feel right - do NOT deal with that person.
If you suspect fraud please send an email to customerservice@gunsamerica.com - be sure to give us the GA Listing Number.


Customer Service
www.GunsAmerica.com

PatMarlin
03-07-2008, 10:51 AM
Yep. Those same basic rules apply to all parts of the internet too.

Check feedback. Check how many feedbacks. Check how long they've been doing business. If it's all not stellar, and if it's only been a short while move on.

It's really easy to spot a phoney, if you just look and read everything, and double check everything.

I think they play on human nature and greed. Always wanting something for nothing.

Thanks for the alert.. :drinks:

PatMarlin
03-16-2010, 11:40 AM
The message doesn't sound to much like a scam but I can't play back the videos. What do they show?

gray wolf
03-16-2010, 11:55 AM
If it was a scam on Kraig's list, did you report them? Hope so.

I see ads flagged all the time on there. Things too good to be true and I suppose there are the other side of the coins, the ones looking to scam the buyers.

Julie (GW's other half)

44fanatic
03-16-2010, 03:13 PM
The fraud adds that Ive responded (never burned) have always had a payment system other than the system the website sponsored. They have also either been a casino dealer on board a ship or in the military about to deploy. Items have always been boxed and ready to ship with a 7 day return policy if im not satisfied.

I also use a seperate email account that is not used for anything else other than responding to adds...just in case they are not so much trying to commit fraud but to capture email addresses.

On another note...if I suspect that it is fraud, I will try to find something unique listed on the item (VIN, milage, hours, Name w/ price) and google it. Often find that there will be several hits on Craigslist and other sites.