Looking for 45-70 levergun and .35 Remington mould recommendations

[BigDanS]

I am in the process of setting up. So far I have a smelting setup, wheel weights, ingot mould and I am ready to try my first smelting. I have yet to buy my casting furnace.

I shoot both 45-70 and .35 Remington. I am looking for "best" moulds for an 1895 Guide Gun and a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington.

I would like 350 gr to 405 gr .458 / .459 / .460 with a gas check in the 45-70 and 189 - 200 gr in the .35 Remington also gas checked.

I don't know enough to pick the most common.

I will most likely gas check, swage and lube using a Lee Lube and size kit.

Thank you in advance for your input.

D

[Bjornb]

This NOE mould should fit your requirements: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_info.php?cPath=42&products_id=422
It's their 350 grain gas check bullet, and it shoots very accurately in my 1895 Guide Gun. I size to .460, use Hornady GCs and Lars' BAC lube. 40-41 grains RL7 gives around 1800 fps. Accurate 5744, Imr 4198 and Alliant 2400 will also work great with this bullet in the 45-70.

[Jevyod]

I absolutely love the Accurate 46-415V Mold!!! I know it is a bit higher then 405 grain. But I believe Accurate makes a 46-405V mold which is the same design but slightly lighter weight. That bullet shoots very nicely out of my 1895 SBL, and at 1600 FPS it hits with AUTHORITY:bigsmyl2:

[Bigslug]

Quite fond of the 405 grain version of what Bjornb suggests. At 1600 fps, it is a Horseman of the Milk Jug Apocalypse. How well it feeds in lever guns, we'll have to wait for additional input on.

Though it has a tad less meplat (.27" vs. .33") you'll never go wrong with the RCBS 405-FNGC. Many here report exceptional accuracy with it, & it worked well enough on my father's deer last fall- launched from an 1895.

[Jevyod]

And +1 on the IMR4198 in the 45-70. That is the first powder I started with, and never needed anything else. I use 40.5 grains with my 420 grain bullets for 1600 FPS. IMHO, that's plenty to take down anything (maybe other that Grizzlies) very quickly and humanely.

[MBTcustom]

I agree with Bjornb, the 350 grain RanchDog style bullet is wonderful in the 45-70. I have both the guide gun, and the standard 1895 22" barreled versions, and they both shoot well with that bullet on top of 24 grains of 2400 (easy to remember eh?).

for the 35 Remington, you can't go wrong with the RCBS 35-200-FN, or the copy from NOE.
Another great option is the 358318 for hunting with.
IMR 3031 is the best powder IMHO.

I give a description of all these molds in this thread here:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?269390-Top-bullet-molds-I-love-and-recommend&highlight=

Also, follow the link in my sig line.

[BigDanS]

Hunting aside. I am interested in accuracy and paper punching. I am fortunate to have a variety of hunting platforms and hunting is almost always secondary to accuracy. I have a requirement that one shot equals one kill and preferably a DRT shot for my hunting guns. Any gun I keep in my brace is MOA or better, if possible.

Keep it coming! I sincerely appreciate the recommendations.

D

[Bjornb]

Horseman of the Milk Jug Apocalypse

Sorry, I thought that was too funny (I can think of several such horsemen).

[MBTcustom]

As to an accurate 35 caliber bullet, I have designed a new one that will be available from NOE molds shortly called the 35XCB. It is designed for performance, aerodynamics, and precise shooting at high velocity. It too is mentioned in the thread I linked above, and I think it's going to be a real winner.

[Toymaker]

I've found IMR powders to be sensitive to ambient temperatures so loads developed in cold weather open considerably in warm weather and visa versa. IMR 4198 was a very good summer load. IMR SR 4759 has proven to be very accurate year around in my 45-70, which is unfortunate because it's being discontinued. With 23 grains and a Lyman 547-193 bullet (.459" dia, 20-1, BHN 10, 424 grains) [wheel weights work well] group size was 1 inch or slightly less at 100 yards and 2 inches at 200 yards with velocity of around 1,188 - 1,200 fps. Accurate XMP 5744 has very similar performance with the same load. Stepping up to a Hoch 500 (.459" dia, 20-1, BHN 10, 535 grains) [wheel weights work fine) with 24 grains Accurate XMP 5744 keeps the velocity in the same range and group size only slightly larger. The only lube used was Darr's applied by hand and the bullets were not sized. Neither did I crimp, which you may have to do with a lever gun. Large pistol primers were adequate for reliable ignition.

What's wrong with using black powder?

Hope this is helpful - good luck and have fun.

[rockrat]

Durn you "Goodsteel", thats all I need is ANOTHER 35 cal mould to buy!!!

[MBTcustom]

Durn you "Goodsteel", thats all I need is ANOTHER 35 cal mould to buy!!!

Trust me. This is not going to be "just another 358 cal mold".
LOL!

When I designed the 30XCB, I wanted to beat the 311466 on performance and I feel that I accomplished that soundly.
I'm hoping the 35XCB will beat the venerable RCBS 35-200-FN on paper and at distance.
I got help on both bullet designs from a friend of mine who makes aerospace simulation models and the designs were optimized to resist the stresses of inertia, centrifugal deformation, and slump, and accomplish this in a very high BC bullet design. I have no doubt the 35XCB will be just as interesting to watch as the 30XCB and I plan to design more calibers in the future if the 35 is as successful as the 30.

[BigDanS]

So goodsteel, when will this be available?

[Djones]

Accurate 460-430vg for your hyphenation
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-03/9FD03F82-5565-4C4E-A798-9B3619294765.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-03/9FD03F82-5565-4C4E-A798-9B3619294765.jpg.html)

RCBS 35-200 for 35 rem
http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt124/duckwhackercmon/1163FAEA-3BC8-4285-8E73-E0C178D75A4B_1.jpg (http://s604.photobucket.com/user/duckwhackercmon/media/1163FAEA-3BC8-4285-8E73-E0C178D75A4B_1.jpg.html)

[MBTcustom]

So goodsteel, when will this be available?

Watch NOE. I think we're still a few weeks out. Al doesn't release an XCB unless it's perfect.

[Tatume]

The RCBS 35-200-FN is wonderful.

[dubber123]

The RCBS 35-200-FN is wonderful.

It certainly is. In any .35 cal firearm it fits in.

[hound-1]

I'm fairly new to bullet casting. After some help from here my 30/30 is a shooting machine,so, time to move to my Marlin 336 35 Rem. I ordered a NOE
360-180 RF mold, its drops .362 and I size .360 for my Micro-groove Barrel. Lubed and checked it weighs in at 181. This is a pic of the first load and group I fired with this boolet at 50 yards. 133389The flier was the 1st shot from a clean barrel, the cluster is 5 shots.

[Bjornb]

Very nice. What powder were you loading?

[hound-1]

Its 24 grains of IMR 4198.It really kinda took the fun out of it , as That was the first load I tried.{lucky } I ran the rest over my chrony today, and they averaged 1897 FPS and shot the same. That's deer hunting good for me. :bigsmyl2:...Ed

[oscarflytyer]

Slightly diff track than you mention for the 45-70. I bought the Lee 405 HB bullet. Pan lube and size to .460. Push with 38.5 grns of 3031 for ~1350-1375 in my 1895. Easy recoil, accurate as I can shoot it with peeps and absolutely smacked a deer at about 75-80 yds last season. Hit him in in the neck/shoulder, facing away from me. FLipped him end over end. Cheap way to get set up for a 45-70.

Having said the above, I just got a RD 350 GC, but yet to do anything with it.

[alfloyd]

I like the RCBS 405 grain gas checked mold for my 45-70.
It cast easy, looks good, is the right weight and works great thru my Marlin 45-70 Cowboy.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Lafaun

[Djones]

I'm fairly new to bullet casting. After some help from here my 30/30 is a shooting machine,so, time to move to my Marlin 336 35 Rem. I ordered a NOE
360-180 RF mold, its drops .362 and I size .360 for my Micro-groove Barrel. Lubed and checked it weighs in at 181. This is a pic of the first load and group I fired with this boolet at 50 yards. 133389The flier was the 1st shot from a clean barrel, the cluster is 5 shots.


Lucky you! This Boolit won't chamber in my 336 35 rem😩. It is great in my 1894c.

Thanks for posting!

[BigDanS]

Lucky you! This Boolit won't chamber in my 336 35 rem. It is great in my 1894c.

Thanks for posting!

Why won't this chamber ? Is it too long? Is the ogive too wide to the meplat?

D

[Static line]

Yep,NOE's 350 gr. Ranchdog mould gets my vote gas check or no gas check,great accuracy and knock down power on Whitetail. 45-70 Guide Gun pill.