NOE is running a group buy on a collar button boolit for the 45-70

[wquiles]

http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=615.new;topicseen#new


http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/NOE_CollarButton/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_460_186Gr._CB.jpg

http://m3coupe.com/Firearms/casting/NOE_CollarButton/N.O.E._Bullet_Moulds_460_186Gr._CB_186_gr_Sketch.j pg



Will

[Sgt Petro]

This is a very fun boolit to play around with. I just picked up a Lyman re-run. But this looks like a better design.

[TXGunNut]

Could someone 'splain the thinking (and maybe the history) behind this collar button design? 45 is my favorite caliber and I guess I've never quite understood it.

[wquiles]

Could someone 'splain the thinking (and maybe the history) behind this collar button design? 45 is my favorite caliber and I guess I've never quite understood it.

This link - post #6:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?105191-Practise-quot-Gallery-quot-Load





ambergrifleman,

A little history....

The original 45-70 "Gallery" cartridge was loaded with a round ball and only 5 grs. of black powder loaded loosely in the case. Velocity ran in the 500 f.p.s range. I have made replications of that load and with the powder positioned back against the primer, 50 yard groups ran 2" in a friends original Trapdoor Springfield.

THe original 45-70 "Armory" cartridge contained 20 grs of b.p. under a 240 - 250 gr bullet. The powder was also loaded loosely in the case. Velocity ran in the 800 f.p.s. range. Replication loads using a "bumped up" (.459" dia) 250 gr. 45 colt bullet grouped into 1 1/2" @ 50 yards.

Here's a pic of the various factory cartridges inluding a shot cartridge
The "Gallery" cartridge is on the left.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45-70srarmoryshotjpg.jpg


SMOKELESS
Here's a pic of a cutaway WRA CO 45-70 "Short Range" cartridge dissected.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45-70shortrangecutawayjpg.jpg

Bullets I have used
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45ShortRangeBullets2jpg.jpg

targets
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45-70200hornady.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45-70SRtarget220jpg.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/45-70200hornady50yds.jpg


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