A 38's a 38, right???

[Sweetpea]

Went out for an extended family shooting outing today, and I noticed the Sister-in-law having trouble loading her wheelgun.

I looked at the box, and sure enough, it said 38 Super...

Had to explain the difference to most everybody in the family, but maybe I should have just let the gene pool clean itself, if they want to play with guns, but not learn about them.:popcorn:

[tazman]

Now that is just sad.:cry:

[Outpost75]

Not as bad as the result of a fellow splitting cases firing rare and valuable. 303 Savage rounds in his Lend-Lease Savage No.4 Mk2* in. 303 British!

[TXGunNut]

Sure, 38 is 38. 38 Spl, 38-40, 38-55, 38 Super...all the same. Don't let anyone tell you different, lol. ;-)

[ruizhernandeztrust]

Well you can't fix stupid. You will not believe how common is this... Someone is constantly firing 9mm bullets using a 40s&w pistol. I haven't any luck finding the culprit but I'm pretty sure the time will tell when he or she blows his hand off. I find cases like this EVERY week.

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[GoodOlBoy]

38 S&W, 38 long colt, 38 short colt, 38 +p.....

I have seen the same problems with folks who need "9 mm". 9mm Luger? 9mm Makarov? 9mm steyr? 9x23 winchester? 9.3x62? 9.3x72? 9.3x74?

GoodOlBoy

[RobS]

Well you can't fix stupid. You will not believe how common is this... Someone is constantly firing 9mm bullets using a 40s&w pistol. I haven't any luck finding the culprit but I'm pretty sure the time will tell when he or she blows his hand off. I find cases like this EVERY week.

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From the primer indent it looks like a glock firearm person shooting the stupid......damn idiots.

[ruizhernandeztrust]

From the primer indent it looks like a glock firearm person shooting the stupid......damn idiots.

Yep!
I think you're right, it appears to be a glock indention.

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[Eddie17]

I collect a number of cases that looked the same. Thought that's what was happening!

[Hickok]

How many times have any of you had to explain to someone that the 1911 you are shooting is NOT a .45 Colt? No wonder that the ".45 Long Colt" labeling is used so much.

[Dan Cash]

Well you can't fix stupid. You will not believe how common is this... Someone is constantly firing 9mm bullets using a 40s&w pistol. I haven't any luck finding the culprit but I'm pretty sure the time will tell when he or she blows his hand off. I find cases like this EVERY week.












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I appreciate your concern however, the danger of weapon damage form a 9mm fired in a .40 or a .40 fired in a .45 (can happen very easily) is very low to non existant. The pressure loss around the undersized bullet is so great that usually, the slide won't cycle and the structural integrity of the handgun is in no way tested or compromised.

[paul s]

When I was a teenager long ago I was shooting with a high school buddy. He had a bring back Walther PPK .32 and he was getting a lot of jams. I looked at his ammo and he was shooting .32 S&W! Amazing thing is it functioned the gun more often than not?

[seaboltm]

I appreciate your concern however, the danger of weapon damage form a 9mm fired in a .40 or a .40 fired in a .45 (can happen very easily) is very low to non existant. The pressure loss around the undersized bullet is so great that usually, the slide won't cycle and the structural integrity of the handgun is in no way tested or compromised.

Don't know about that:

http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/publications/download/SAAMI_ITEM_211-Unsafe_Arms_and_Ammunition_Combinations.pdf

I have had 9mm ammo slip into my 40 pile. I always caught it. SAMMI lists 9mm in 40 as dangerous, but interestingly not 40 in 45 ACP. I have also had 44 mag brass slip into my 45 Colt brass. Seating a 45 Colt boolit into a 44 mag case makes for a noticeable bulge! I caught the mistake because I inspect every cartridge I reload. Still, stuff happens.

[flylot]

I am so glad I read this thread. I truly didn't think this was possible that you could fire a 9mm in a .40 S&W or a .40 S&W in a .45acp. I cant imagine anyone would even try this. Dear Lord, trying to feed any firearm with the incorrect cartridge without knowing the difference is terrifying.

[Wayne Smith]

How many times have any of you had to explain to someone that the 1911 you are shooting is NOT a .45 Colt? No wonder that the ".45 Long Colt" labeling is used so much.

Well, actually, there was a 'long Colt' and a 'short Colt'. The US Army used the Colt revolvers (Model P) but used the Smith and Wesson case, the short 45 case. In the hands of the soldiers putting them in the Colt revolvers they became the 'short Colt 45'.

Franky, I'd think twice about letting the gene pool clear itself if we are talking about family. Education is cheap in the long run.

[prs]

Well you can't fix stupid. You will not believe how common is this... Someone is constantly firing 9mm bullets using a 40s&w pistol. I haven't any luck finding the culprit but I'm pretty sure the time will tell when he or she blows his hand off. I find cases like this EVERY week.

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No, I am sure they did not mean to leave those "fire formed" cases behind. They were just trying to make a new wildcat round with the anti-thesis of .357 Sig. lol

prs

[dakotashooter2]

So would one label that as a 10-9 mm?....................

Next time at the range just watch for someone who is having ongoing cycling issues

[Harry O]

When I was a teenager long ago I was shooting with a high school buddy. He had a bring back Walther PPK .32 and he was getting a lot of jams. I looked at his ammo and he was shooting .32 S&W! Amazing thing is it functioned the gun more often than not?

I did the opposite. When it was hard to find .32 S&W Long cartridges (when I was a teenager), I sometimes shot .32ACP in my H&R revolver. It worked since the .32ACP was "semi-rimmed".

[Airman Basic]

Seems I remember reading about some kids robbing a store with a 44 revolver loaded with two 22 rounds stuffed in each chamber. Least they could count?

[leadman]

My neighbor who was very old, took his rifles to the range to have them sighted in by a club offering this service before elk season. He came back with a 270 Winchester fireformed to a 375 Weatherby chamber! Did no damage other than to the shooter and my neighbors pride. It was not a reloadable case for either gun though.
I used to shoot 32acps that I was given in my Ruger Super Single Six for squirrel hunting. Very accurate and the right amount of energy for this task.

[dale2242]

I saw a 270 Whby that had a 270 Win fired in it .
It ruined the gun....dale

[rintinglen]

Had an old boy who could not get his 30-06 to chamber--in his 30-40 Winchester Model 95. "Says 30 US. right on the barrel."

[bedbugbilly]

Well . . . actually a 38 is a 38 . . . you just need a bigger mallet sometimes to make 'em fit.

[fatelk]

How many times have any of you had to explain to someone that the 1911 you are shooting is NOT a .45 Colt?
Well, my 1911 is a Colt .45, why can't I use .45 Colt in it?

[truckjohn]

I used to find stuff like this at the range all the time...

308 in 7.62x54r
300win in 300 wby
9 in 40
40 in 45
223 in 7.62x39
7mm mauser in 8mm mauser

At least, some wont go bang and just leave a confused look on their faces...
like 308 marlin in 308w...

Thanks

[John Allen]

People scare me. I have seen too much of this.

[country gent]

I have seen the 9mm fired in 40cal, 40cal fired in 45, I also found some 22 rimfire split down side from being fired in a 22 mag chamber. ( everyone knows 22 are interchangable also). I saw one guy fire 410 slugs out of a 45-70. The one that I havd found several times were 308 cases with no shoulder or neck left on them from being fired in a 30-06 chamber ( i suspected a garand with chamber insert conversion to 308 that came out) but was scarry to think about. Its scarry what some think is safe or appropriate. I have a 6.5 wildcat on a shortened 300 wsm case. A club memeber looked at my groups came back looked at ammos headstamp and wanted to try it in his 300 wsm to see if it performed as good in his rifle, was a real chore explaining it was no longer 30 cal or 300wsm.

[Airman Basic]

In a LGS years ago. Old fella came in wanting 44 mags. Said he used them for deer hunting in his automatic single shot. Inquiring minds and all, we asked for more details. Seems he had a 410 H & R automatically popped open the action when he fired one of those 44s, ready for the next round. We prevailed upon his good sense, but seemed there was none. He left still sure of himself.

[ruizhernandeztrust]

Seems I remember reading about some kids robbing a store with a 44 revolver loaded with two 22 rounds stuffed in each chamber. Least they could count?

hahahahahaha! :)
Makes complete sense 22x2=44 :guntootsmiley:

[454PB]

I accidentally fired a .44 magnum round in my .454 Puma rifle. No big deal, and it made an interesting piece of brass.

Having two different cartridges on the shooting bench is just as dangerous as having two different powders on the loading bench.

[BAGTIC]

Had a relative who bought one of the first Savage 99 chambered for the .308. He brought me some fired brass and asked what was wrong as there was no neck or shoulder left. I looked at the case and explained that he was using the wrong ammo He was shooting .300 Savage in a .308 Winchester chamber. He insisted he had the right ammo as his gun was a Savage not a Winchester.

[fatelk]

I once accidentally fired a magazine full of .380 through my 9mm Makarov. It cycled just fine, but I wondered where my accuracy went. That was embarrassing when we started picking up the bulged brass and I realized what I did.

[Down South]

Sort of like this one that I found at the range...

[paul edward]

I did the opposite. When it was hard to find .32 S&W Long cartridges (when I was a teenager), I sometimes shot .32ACP in my H&R revolver. It worked since the .32ACP was "semi-rimmed".

For several years, I reloaded .32 S&W Long in .32 ACP dies. Reloads assembled that way worked just fine in a J frame Smith.

[nicholst55]

We did have one of our Gunners try to force a 7.62X54R round into the chamber of a .308 Winchester M70 once. They were firing both the PSL and the M70, and grabbed the wrong ammo. Of course he tried to force the bolt closed when it wouldn't do so easily... That one was a chore to remove.

[MtGun44]

Down south - I assume that was fired in a .45 Colt chamber, any idea if
that is right?

Folks sure do some foolish stuff.

Bill

[gwpercle]

For people who want to learn about this subject , I tell them to get a book called Cartridges Of The World. I bought one years ago and have found it invaluable in reloading and just very interesting to read, lots of historical data in there. All about obsolete, modern and wildcat rounds.
I picked up a few fired cases marked 38 AMU, had no idea what they were, found it in the book and now I know about the 38 AMU!
Gary

[oscarflytyer]

For several years, I reloaded .32 S&W Long in .32 ACP dies. Reloads assembled that way worked just fine in a J frame Smith.

Used to load 45 Colt with 45 ACP dies. Shot great in the Ruger BH 45 Colt

[Harter66]

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Steel cased 223 from a 6.8 chamber.

I read a few years ago about an editor out on 1 of the corporate come try our new line and old standards shootfest . He ran 2 cylinders of 41 mag through a 44 mag .

I have a piece of brass I'll dig out that appears to be a 6mm Rem fired in a 243 chamber recut to 6mm Rem complete with 2 shoulders.

[paul edward]

I used to find stuff like this at the range all the time...

7mm mauser in 8mm mauser

An acquaintance who knew that I reload 7x57 once gave me two boxes of 7mm Mauser cases he had fired in his father's old service rifle. He complained of terrible accuracy. One look at his fired brass told me he had an 8mm. It took a gunsmith to convince him that he had been using the wrong caliber ammo for years. I loaded batch of 8x57 for him and later heard how much better they worked. As a result, he gave me several boxes of new factory 7mm Mauser ammo.

[Para82]

Once had someone shoot 380acp in my 9mm High Power. Didn't do any damage but he only fired a couple rounds before I realized what he was doing and stopped him.

[Down South]

Down south - I assume that was fired in a .45 Colt chamber, any idea if
that is right?

Folks sure do some foolish stuff.

Bill
That's my idea. I was picking up spent brass when I found it. I find all sorts of mistakes when looking for brass. Most seem to be 9mm that was crimped so tight that the case mouth slipped past the chamber for a miss fire.