High Wall 38-55

[bullshot]

I have this thing for a 38-55 High wall. Pedersoli is supposed to market one this summer. I understand the action is made by Uberti and the rest by Pedersoli. Supposed to retail in the $1800.00-$1900.00 range. C Sharps offers their High Wall base price $1650.00. Any one have experience withe C Sharps High wall?
I have a Cimarron/Uberti High wall in 40-65. It does not shoot really well. Two in at 100 yds best group and not repeatable. I'm reluctant to buy a Cimarron High wall in 38-55 because of the difficulty with my 40-65. Have a Pedersoli Sharps(Quigley) in 45-70 shoots two in all day long with many different loads. (Bear with me) I'm told Pedersoli cut rifles their barrels and Uberti button rifle theirs and that button rifled barrels don't shoot cast bullets as well as cut rifled.(any thoughts)
By the way I just shoot smokeless.

[Don McDowell]

Have you thought about one of the Winchester highwalls in 38-55? Buffalo Arms had a few left here a while back, and there's usually several on gunbroker.
I know a couple of folks that have those and shoot pretty fair out to 1000 yds.

There's several BPCR competitive shooters that have bought the Uberti's and rebarreled them for competition guns.

CSharps's guns are quality from butt to muzzle, and well worth the money.

[McLintock]

I bought a C. Sharps Hi Wall in 38-55, and the biggest fault I found was that the chamber was cut for late brass at 2.08 or 9, and being a custom type rifle I figured it would at least have the chamber cut for old style brass. In the capacity deficient 38-55 the difference is a big one. Also, they put a barrel with a 1-15" twist on and if you're shooting 300 plus gr bullets that isn't enough. The new Pedersoli is supposed to have a 1-12" twist and the longer chamber, so you're up a lot right there. I've had my C. Sharps rebarreled to 38-50 Remington with a 1-14" twist. Course, if you're not going to shoot black powder al the above is probably a moot point.
McLintock

[MT Chambers]

In my humble opinion the Badger barrels that C. Sharps use easily trump what any of the other makers offer. i have a C.Sharps Hiwall in 45/70 and it's the bees' knees.

[NickSS]

I have a C Sharps High Wall 38-55 and I like it a lot. It shoots really well with several loads and boolits I load. My target load is a 310 gr NEI round nose boolit that looks a lot like a scalled down 457125 lyman boolit. This slug with 42 gr of GOEX FFG and a .030 Vegi wad will shoot into one to on and a half minutes out to 300 yards. Much further than that and you really need a bigger caliber. I know some people are using the 38-55 for Silhouettes using 350 gr slugs but to do so you really need to be one of the top 5% of the shooters to score well with it. At 200 yards the 38-55 shines. As for the short vs long case you can always get the chamber reamed out if you want the long case however, The only time I felt a nead for the long case was in my Winchester that is chambered for it. It definately shoots better with the longer case. A long case measures 2.125 and the short ones ,2080. This is a large .045" difference or maybe two grains of powder. This does not equate to much velocity change between the two lengths.

[twotrees]

I got a set of Pedesoli long range sights for it and it and the sights work well out to 1000 meters (1137 yards).

If they would give me a deal like I got on my 45-70 on a 38-55 I get one in a min.

Just my Opinion, and we know what thats worth.

Good Shooting,

TwoTrees

[Buckshot]

.................There is no difference in the accuracy potential of either cut or buttoned rifling if both are done well.

................Buckshot

[Boz330]

I bought a C. Sharps Hi Wall in 38-55, and the biggest fault I found was that the chamber was cut for late brass at 2.08 or 9, and being a custom type rifle I figured it would at least have the chamber cut for old style brass. In the capacity deficient 38-55 the difference is a big one. Also, they put a barrel with a 1-15" twist on and if you're shooting 300 plus gr bullets that isn't enough. The new Pedersoli is supposed to have a 1-12" twist and the longer chamber, so you're up a lot right there. I've had my C. Sharps rebarreled to 38-50 Remington with a 1-14" twist. Course, if you're not going to shoot black powder al the above is probably a moot point.
McLintock

I've got a C-Sharps 75 in 38-55 and it shoots the Lyman 335gr slug very well out to 600yds. It has the 15 twist barrel. They will barrel it for anything available if you ask. If you want more case capacity go for the 38-50 Remington-Hepburn. I shoot exclusively BP in mine so I don't have any complaints.
I also have a Highwall in 40-65 that I bought back in 91. Except for the fact that it has an 18 twist barrel I have been very happy with it. It does break firing pins if you shoot it a bunch so have one on hand, 1000 rounds or so. Not a big deal to replace. I can't say enough about the C-Sharps guns that I own, I've always thought that they were good value for money and with the dollar being weak overseas they are that much better.

Bob

[McLintock]

As Boz said, 42-44 gr is about all you can get in the case with the Lyman Bullet, but if you get a mould with a bullet that can be seated further out, you can go up several grains. With a Brooks 335 gr with undersized top band I can get 48-9 grs with the longer cases, so playing with bullets can get you an increase in powder also. Before I rebarreled to 38-50 I had Dave Manson lengthen my 38-55 reamer so I could make a chamber for 2.234" .38 basic brass. With that brass and the Brooks bullet I was getting 52-3 gr of Swiss 1.5 and less than .100 compression. But with the 38-50 and the same bullet and compression, I getting 59-60 grs of Swiss; pretty good ram load, but the overall length is longer than a lady of the nights dream, as my ole grandpappy used to say. Some of the Master shooters are getting up to 65 grs in the 38-50 with a 365 gr bullet, must be using lots of compression; I'm going there eventually.
McLintock

[Boz330]

I actually get 47gr of 2F Swiss by weight in mine, but, that is with .200 compression. Usually Swiss doesn't like compression but in this gun it works. BTW that is about 42.5gr in the volume measure.
My shootin buddy is building 2- 38-50RH Sharps and bought a copy of Steve Garbe's reamer, so if I decide I need more I can always ream it out. I already have everything for the 38-55 so I'll probably stay with it.

Bob

[McLintock]

John King did my 38-50 and I believe he does his own reamers. Dan Theodore of silhouette fame makes his own 38-50 reamer and now you say Steve Gerbe does his own, wonder who's got it nailed down, they're all renowned shooters/'smiths. In case you're interested, Midway had 38-55 Hoch moulds on sell right now and I'm looking at a 365 gr one. They've got a 310, 330 and the 365 gr'ers, but only in .376 and some in .377 diameters. I got a Hoch 315 gr from Midway under a similar sell a couple years ago and it throws a nice bullet, especially for 1-15" barrels and you can seat it out way further than the Lyman bullet I have, which is the same as yours.
McLintock

[Boz330]

Pacific Tool does Steve's reamers for him. My buddy just called and asked Steve if he would share the dimensions and Steve told him who to call. I am rebarreling my Hi-wall and got the Pacific Tool 40-65 reamer from Midway.
I'll pass on the info on the Hoch molds to my buddy since he might be interested in that 365. I'm getting mold poor so I'll just borrow his if he gets one.

Thanks
Bob