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birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:34 PM
Why don't they make 9mm gas checks?

Love Life
08-27-2014, 06:35 PM
35 caliber.

waksupi
08-27-2014, 06:37 PM
Probably because you can use .35 gas checks. 9mm, .38, .357, .35 Win, all same same.

This could be a real business opportunity for Blammer! Repackage .35 checks, sell them on Ebay as rare 9mm checks! Bet he could get a premium! [smilie=w:

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:37 PM
but no molds for 9mm gas checks?

silverado
08-27-2014, 06:39 PM
Because lower velocity/low(ish) pressure does not require gas checks.

HiVelocity
08-27-2014, 06:39 PM
n.h.Schmidt makes plain based gas checks for 9mm. I just got an order in from him. Try them, outstanding!

HV

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:40 PM
thanks yo

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:40 PM
n.h.Schmidt makes plain based gas checks for 9mm. I just got an order in from him. Try them, outstanding!

HV

he a user?

how are they put on?

Love Life
08-27-2014, 06:41 PM
RCBS makes a GC 9mm mould. I have one and have used it quite a bit loading for my mom's 9mm carbine.

462
08-27-2014, 06:49 PM
Love Life,
Just noticed your signature line. Excellent!

It ought to be sticky. (I'm not going to spend the time figuring out purple font.)

silverado
08-27-2014, 06:49 PM
For someone who is just now learning to cast gas checking 9mm seems like a waste and adding to the learning curve. I am not the most experienced but so far I see this guy has a lot to learn. Nothing wrong with that, but the best thing in my opinion would be a tried and true design in a lee 2 cavity. I understand a lot of people don't like lee, and I have even complained here about quality. I have also learned that I was at least part of the problem I was complaining about. The 2 cavity molds in my opinion are far easier to use though. Even more so when they are cut for larger boolits. Birddseedd, did you ever send back that Lee 10 pound pot? If you still have it, I would recommend the lee 120 grain tc boolit, non tumble lubed version. Get a better caliper/micrometer to slug your bore with. I have a hornady caliper. Most here would recommend a micrometer that can measure 0.0001". I don't have one. So sue me.
You need to do a lot more reading from what I can tell in all of these threads you are posting. Nothing wrong with asking questions. I asked plenty myself. But there is a lot of information you are trying to get that will eventually become "common sense" once you get running with this, and all of this information is in the stickies.
I would highly recommend getting someone to help you out face to face. If you have trouble reading stickies, maybe some one on one time would be better for you. I hate reading instructions. I learn a lot better by doing. Good luck to you, and I hope you get all of this stuff figured out.

silverado
08-27-2014, 06:52 PM
Also what kind of gun are you using? That could help us determine what is best for you. It is not always true that "X" gun has "Y" bore diameter, but I can say 2 beretta 92 pistols I have are .357 bore, and I will be looking at more Berettas for my 9mm purposes. I hate having to size boolits separately for a different gun.

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:55 PM
i learn by doing


fns 9mm
shield 9mm

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:56 PM
while i have your attention. can i confirm something. iv been told the bullet needs to be .001-002 bigger. iv also told .01-02 biger

birddseedd
08-27-2014, 06:57 PM
i took the 10lb pot back and got a new one. new one got hot a lot faster. kinda wish i woulda sprung for the 20lb

silverado
08-27-2014, 06:58 PM
0.001-0.002 is the standard. I would recommend before buying a sizing die, to ask around and see if you could get an assortment of boolit sizes from people around here. It would be pretty annoying to buy a sizing die and find out your pistol won't chamber the boolits, or the boolit is undersized and causes bad leading.

rodsvet
08-27-2014, 07:05 PM
I cast a Saeco #924 mold. 125 grain gas check for my Sig 229 357Sig. I also use it in .357 mag and 9MM. It worked real well in a Sten I used to have. No leading in my Win. 94 in .357 either. I'm a fan of gas checks in .35 cal. Rod

Shiloh
08-27-2014, 11:22 PM
They do.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/134373/hornady-gas-checks-35-caliber-box-of-1000

Fits this mold and others like it.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/252144/saeco-2-cavity-bullet-mold-924-9mm-356-diameter-124-grain-semi-wadcutter-gas-check

You sure won't need them for 9mm

Shiloh

jonp
08-28-2014, 04:35 AM
RCBS makes a GC 9mm mould. I have one and have used it quite a bit loading for my mom's 9mm carbine.
Why?
Do you use them?

Blammer
08-28-2014, 07:19 AM
I have 9mm GC's! (here let me cross out the 35 cal and pencil in 9mm...) :D

and 9.3's too. :)

Love Life
08-28-2014, 07:23 AM
Why?
Do you use them?

My mother has a Colt 9mm carbine and she loves to shoot. I didn't to reinvent the wheel for her rifle so I feed it gas checked 9mm rds. Works like a charm.

garym1a2
08-28-2014, 08:05 AM
I did get some leading with plain base boolits in my Beratta CX4 Storm carbine. Options for me where gas checks or powder paint. I went with powder paint and it seems ok so far. I did buy some plain base gas checks and they seem to work easy, just use a push thru sizer and run the bullet upside down.

Thompsoncustom
08-28-2014, 06:04 PM
The fastest I've pushed a 9mm bullet is 1700fps average tho the accuracy sucked there was no leading with just range scrap alloy and some powder coating.

Just no gas check needed you can't push it hard enough.

birddseedd
08-28-2014, 06:13 PM
well. if i can use 9mm with no leading, then my goal is to do it well enough to accomplish that.

bstone5
08-28-2014, 06:27 PM
A cola can gas check made for 357 caliber will go on a 9 mm bullet.

I use the same home made gas check on 380, 9 mm and 38 caliber cast lead bullets.

The gas check will remove all of the possibilities of getting lead in the barrel.

I install the gas checks on powder coated bullets an can fire several hundred without any lead in the barrel.

The cola can material is .004 thick, there is a roof flashing material that is .006 thick, the roof flashing at .006 makes a gas check that is very tight on a plain base cast lead bullet.

bstone5
08-28-2014, 06:31 PM
The home made gas check works very well in removing the possibility of lead.

All of these bullets are plain base with a bevel cast on a Master Caster.

birddseedd
08-28-2014, 07:00 PM
did you spray those or tumble coat them? iv been told you can tumble coat them but i couldn't do it myself without lots and lots of work

birddseedd
08-28-2014, 08:53 PM
The home made gas check works very well in removing the possibility of lead.

All of these bullets are plain base with a bevel cast on a Master Caster.

38 reminds me of that little plastic piece on top of my press, i took that out once, powder sprayed everywhere