Green Dot for cast boolets?????

[leadhead]

Have any of you guys tried green dot powder for cast and how did it work out?
I just found a 4# can of it in the back of my cabinet and wondered how it would
work. Is it almost the same as red dot? I've used red dot and it works fine. I'm
talking about using it in military rifles. I also found some 700X. Don't know about
that one. Any info would be great. Thanks,
Denny

[Leatherhead Bullets]

I have used it in my .357 and .44 mag. I have found it to be dirty, but accurate. Especially in the .357. I do remember loading it low to mild on pressure and velocity. Load data may be scarce, but I do recall that Laser Cast has it in some of there data for reference.

As always, be safe and work up!

[Janoosh]

I use 10 grns and 32 pistol boolit or jaxketed, or 32/20 boolits, in my 30-31 ish milsurps. Works fine in a 308 FR 7 and a 32 pistol boolit. Lots of fun, accurate, and no recoil.

[williamwaco]

Green Dot will work great for cast bullet loads.

It is slightly slower than Red Dot.

[Janoosh]

Rifle boolits- 311359, 311316,
Pistol boolits- 313226
I use 8 grns in my 38/55 with 375296, and 375248 for shooting to 100 yds.
All these loads use standard rifle primers.

[Eddie2002]

Been using Greendot with a 100 grain cast boolit for all my 30 caliber rifles. I'm using the Lee scoop measures and the best so far has been the .7cc scoop for my 30-06, 7.7 Jap and 91/30 Mosin. The load gives real good accuracy out to 50yds with the 30-06, just hits a little low. The 7.7 Jap and Mosin don't have the accuracy due to the slightly larger bores but are still lot o fun to shoot. I tried a 1cc scoop and had the POI really open up, think I was pushing the load too hard. Got about 45 of the hotter rounds I need to "dispose" of next trip to the range.
I've been holding the powder charge in the bottom of the case with a small pinch of tamped down cotton which has really helped. I've found that light loads in the larger cases can be posistion sensitive. I've only used cotton in loads under 1 cc while using Bullseye or Greendot and would not recommend using it with any slower burning powder or larger loads.

[jaysouth]

7-8 grs. in a .308 is a mighty accurate 50 yard load. It takes care of all my garden pests.

[Green Frog]

We used a fair amount of Green Dot and a whole lot of 700X loading target rounds for the 38 Spl back when I was shooting PPC. The GD especially was a little dirty, but not all that bad. I wouldn't hesitate to use either for low power (mid-range target) loads for my 38s today.

Froggie

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

It is top of the line for cast boolits in .45 ACP. I use it in .380 ACP also. Meters a little better than red dot, which I use a lot of also. For rifle, the only load I tried was 10 gr green dot behind a Lee 170 gn gc in .30-30. My buddy shot a 5 round group at 200 yards with his scoped Marlin (micro groove), and it was two inches across.

[jayjay1]

Do use it in my .40, good to go.

[Nikkisdad]

700X excellent in 45 acp

[chsparkman]

I use it in .223 for very light squirrel loads, and in 30-30, .32 H&R, .38 sp, and .44 sp. Soon I'll try it in .35 Rem.

[John Boy]

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=5
Military rifle calibers? Your out of luck - it's a shotgun powder
Of course, you could have determined it yourself - if you had gone to the Alliant website [smilie=1:

[rockrat]

Red Dot is a shotgun powder too, but you will find many of us use it in military caliber rifles, and pistols!!!


Use to use it quite a bit in pistol calibers, but as said, just a little dirty.

[C. Latch]

I use Green Dot frequently in .45 ACP. I've used it in .357, too.

[JeffinNZ]

Green Dot goes wonderfully well in my .223 Rem and .32-20 WCF. Nice economical powder.

[leadhead]

Thanks guys, I've used red dot before in most all my military rifles and
figured the green dot would work as well. I've seen reloading info for
the larger calibers with it, but wanted some insight from somebody that
actually used it. Thanks for the info.
Denny

[tazman]

http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/Freebies/RM/Alliant/Alliant01.pdf

Here is a download link to an Alliant manual from 2001 that lists loads for most Alliant powders. Unfortunately they don't list many reduced loads for rifle. They have lots for pistol. Almost any Alliant powder usable for pistol has loads in this manual.

[10mmShooter]

Gd is my go to powder for target loads in .44 mag and .357 in the 1000fps range

[multigunner76]

I use Green and Red Dot for NY 9mm USPSA loads

[Le Loup Solitaire]

Green Dot is an excellent and versatile powder. I use it in all of my pistol cartridges and it performs very well. LLS

[RED333]

Best thread I ave read tonight, I have a few pounds for shot gun and now I have some for my pistols.
Thanks much guys!!!

[Jtarm]

I've used 5 grains in .44 spl behind the LBT 230 ogival WC, just because I was low on everything else. It was OK, but doesn't do anything most other slow-to-medium can't.

On the other hand, Green Dot probably throws THE most even patterns of any powder in 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 oz 12 gauge loads.

I haven't loaded shot shells I years, but the patterns I got from GD was well worth the cleaning in SC and Trap loads.

[PS Paul]

It's a great, albeit overlooked, powder for many pistol loads. I use GD in 357, 45 auto and 45 Colt. Like Bill mentioned above, it is a tad slower than RD. If you cannot find GD load info ( not a ton of it out there), use Red Dot loads and increase 5 to 10 percent. It's a favorite of mine in medium-velocity 45 Colt loads with heavy boolits and can be super accurate!!

[Shuz]

I've been a fan of Green Dot in the .44 magnum case for many years. In my .44 mag guns, with various cast boolits, I have determined that if a manual lists a load for that boolit with Unique, I can drop the charge by 10% and use Green Dot and get the same velocity. 8.3g of Green Dot and a 225 RNFP gives me 1222fps with an SD of 4 outta my Winchester Trapper with a 16" bbl.
Pleasant to shoot, real cheap and oh so accurate as tested at 100 yds with a 4x scope.

[Blanco]

I pretty much use Green Dot exclusively in 45 ACP
Works great and very accurate. It does tend to be a bit louder and flashier than some powders I have tried in 45ACP

[jayjay1]

Best thread I ave read tonight, I have a few pounds for shot gun and now I have some for my pistols.
Thanks much guys!!!

Hmhmhm,
I would recommend it from the .40 cal. upwards.

Have tried it in 9mm, no problem with it in this round, BUT, the flakes are to big, they don´t drop constantly in small cases.
Had differences with 0,2-0,3gr. up and down, and that´s too much in the 9mm to be good.

Noticed, that it was slightly better in my Dillon 550, but in the LEE powderfiller it was an absolute NO-NO.

Just my experiences, others may vary, am using Green Dot in .40 and .45.

[26Charlie]

In the beginning 55 or so years ago, I had a 311241 150 gr. RNPB mould, and a 12 lb (I think) keg of 700-X. Where I got it I disremember. I loaded 8.0 gr. 700-X for about 1250 f/s with the 150 gr. bullet . Rifle was .30-06 Springfield with Ace 26" target barrel, Lyman 48 and 17A sights. From 100 yd bench, I could peck out the 10 ring of the 100 yd. smallbore target. I still have all that stuff, and it still works the same. Getting low on the 700-X, though.

[OptimusPanda]

A few months back I found two pounds of green dot at a show. I've been loading lee 200g swc in 45 auto with it and have been quite satisfied with its performance.

[CastingFool]

that's good to know, I have about 1 lb of GD left from the time I reloaded 20 ga shells.

[bangerjim]

Today basically....if it burns and you can find it or have it.....it WILL work!

700X has load data for tons & tons of cals and weights in all my several loading books. I use it a lot.

All the Dot powders are supposedly the same formula. Read somewhere on here that when they make a batch of Dot, they test it and put the little colored confetti in depending on the test! Only the burn speed is the difference between them.

They all are very good pistol powders, but I and many others it sounds like use them in rifle -loads also.

banger

[Blackwater]

IIRC, I was in college when 700X was introduced. It was advertised as being clean burning, consistent and insensitive to wad pressure in shotguns. It bulks up fairly well, though not quite as much as Red Dot, which may be our bulkiest powder per wt. This helps prevent double charges when you're loading light loads in large cases. I've used it in .38, .357, .45 ACP and .44 mag. quite a bit, and never have gotten less than very good accuracy from it. It seems to be pretty insensitive as to position in large cases. Very good powder, and like Bullseye, a little goes a long way - a kind'a important thing in these days of difficult to find powders that are expensive when you CAN find them. Will be trying it in my .44 Special soon to train my grandson.

[DeanWinchester]

Green Dot shot extremely well in .223 with an RCBS 55g cast.

[Green Frog]

Has anyone used any cast bullet and Green Dot loads in 32 H&R or 327 Fed Mag? I'd love to see some tested data for that combination and have bullets from 95 -125 grains. :coffeecom TIA!

Froggie

[superbee]

I have used Green Dot with cast boolits in 32 S&W Long, 32 Magnum, 32-20, 380 Auto, and 38 Super.

[TXGunNut]

Looking forward to trying it in 20ga...if I can find some.

[Green Frog]

I have used Green Dot with cast boolits in 32 S&W Long, 32 Magnum, 32-20, 380 Auto, and 38 Super.

Now that's what I'm talking about! :mrgreen: How about some bullet weights/designs and charge weights for those various 32s? If you would prefer not to post them publicly a PM would be most appreciated. I'm especially thinking of trying to find a HBWC load for my 32 S&W L with Green Dot™. It would be a little more bulky than the Bullseye™ I'm using now. TIA

Froggie

[superbee]

Frog, pm sent !

[jaysouth]

Some data for Green Dot in .308 with 311041.


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