Hawken with period type scope

[roots911]

Here is a project that I have been playing with. Rifle is a TC Hawken - 45 cal percussion. Scope is a Navy Arms 4 X 15. Mounts are shop made from scratch (not by me) and resemble early type mounts. Setting the rifle up to shoot TC maxi's over 85 grains of 2F. Scope is mounted over the centerline of the bore and the hammer clears the scope. Peep will be removed - still doing fit up on the scope. Scope has screw in brass lens caps at each end. Looking forward to finishing it and sighting it in.114384114385

[koger]

That is just too cool! I fixed one up in 1992 like this, also put an Unertl on a 45/90 rolling block I built. Thanks for sharing, and if you want rid of that Peep sight give me a pM!

[roots911]

Koger,
Thanks for the reply. The peep is going to move to my 54 Renegade.

[bigted]

man now you went and did it ... i always wanted a MLer with a scope mounted and yours is a inspiration. it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone for me ;

1- the stupid stock is just too high with open sights for me as it smacks my cheek very unceremoniously with every shot and after just a few shots my cheek is tender and ready to stop shooting way before i am ... the scope mounted high like that would allow me to get a decent cheek weld without having to bear down on the stock to see the sights.

2- the other bird would be my eye sight. it is diminished with my detached retina so the scope would be a welcome addition to my confidence in the rifle and its accuracy.

thanks a million for posting this. it may be my next addition to my muzzle loaders.

[roots911]

bigted,
Started this because my 71 year old eyes don't work like they did when I was 18. These scopes often come up on ebay and gunbroker at a decent price. The Leatherwood ones with the externally adjusted mounts are quite expensive. Field of view is small but I long ago gave up trying long shots offhand! Good luck and I hope you try it.

[John Allen]

Frank, I like it. Time to go play.

[swamp]

Nice to see it put to good use.

[nekshot]

Great job, I have been toying with doing the same thing for about 3 years now, you inspire me to actually do it NOW!

[starmac]

Glad to know I am not the only one whose muzzle loader boxes my cheek at every pull of the trigger.

[waksupi]

Ya know, a rasp takes care of a lot of that cheek whacking. I've adjusted quite a few stocks for people so they were pleasant to shoot. Rasp a little, try the fit, rasp a bit more, when it feels good, sand and refinish.

[starmac]

HA HA I cured my cheek whacking the easy simple way. I just adjusted the powder measure a little.lol I have seen pictures of your stock work, afraid if I tried it, I would be ashamed to show anybody what I did. lol

[bigted]

oh come now ... somebody else has GOT to have a scoped GPR, GPH, RENEGADE or HAWKINS to photo and share. targets would be nice to see as well.

[keydet15]

Heres mine not the best picture but the only one that I have at the moment

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[Fly]

Who sell scopes as that?
Fly

[bigted]

leatherwood, MVA, seems like another company as well. leatherwood scopes are the least expensive for a good glass ... the mounts are a bit crummy but if you sight in and leave em alone ... they work well enough.

i put an old Lyman 3/4 scope on mine and when i get some pic's ill post em here for view.

you can get em on fleabay as well as the bid auction places like gunstroker.

[fouronesix]

Yes, I think Leatherwood is the most common brand of those long 3/4" scopes today. Midway shows one for 267.00 shipping included. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/199639/leatherwood-hi-lux-william-malcolm-short-rifle-scope-3-4-tube-3x-16mm-17-long-fine-crosshair-reticle-with-external-ring-mounts-3-8-dovetail-matte-steel?cm_vc=ProductFinding
Not bad, but might require taller specialized mounts similar to those shown in the OP.

The brass scope shown in the OP is one of those that started showing up in the mid-late 1970s. IIRC and CRS notwithstanding, I seem to remember they were about 79.00 at that time. As stated, Navy Arms was one of the distributors but I have no idea who made them.

[bigted]

i believe Tasco at one time built a brass body long scope but that has been awhile ago.

[roots911]

Tasco and Navy Arms imported these from Japan many years ago. Navy Arms units had rough cast brass mounts that looked like plumbers fittings. Illness has kept me from finishing this but maybe in the spring I will get it done and post some pics of target results.