thinking about a revolver for the hard to get H&R .32 and federal 327 magnum

[edadmartin]

thinking about a revolver for the hard to get H&R .32 and federal 327 magnum brass. A friend has dies for me and Im interested in casting for the taurus 327m. Which brand dies should I get,3pc or 4 pc also what mold should I look for? what is a good starting point from your experience.
and if any you have any brass for sale Id be interested, thanks

[catskinner]

L have a 32 H&R revolver and use mostly the RCBS 32-98-SWC in it and also a Marlin 1894CB and use the Saeco 322 in it. Both are plain base . For a gc mold I'd suggest Lyman 311316.

[MT Gianni]

What is hard to get about them? I like the 32 RCBS swc and NOE copy of the Ly 3118/311008. I have a gc mold for the 327 as well but am Ok with speeds under 1500 fps and no check. My guns are a Ruger SS and a CA target 4" patriot.

[monadnock#5]

I bought a Redding 3 die set for 32 H&R Mag from Midway because it was all they had ready for shipment. If I had it to do over again, I'd do the same.

[dondiego]

Go to the Starline Brass page and hit the "Notify me" button for .32 H&R mag and .327 Fed and be patient.

[OuchHot!]

Just two weeks ago grafs had both starline 32HnR and 327fed

[edadmartin]

I guess I ment once fired brass is hard to come by here in Colorado Springs . Starline may run some in 2015, If any one can spare 100 federal brasses Id be gratefull. Ill check [COLOR=#333333]grafs. also need a swc mold for the 327 magnum.

[Green Frog]

edadmartin, my love affair with the 327 Fed Mag is well documented, so I feel well qualified to comment on this subject you have broached. If I were starting "from scratch" to load this (and the rest of the 32 S&W "family" of cartridges) I would probably opt for either the Lyman or RCBS set of dies for loading the 32s... note that both of these manufacturers advertise that the set covers the whole range of lengths, so you'd be good to go for the H&R (almost) Magnum and the 327 Federal Magnum for sure. Bullets? The sky's the limit! I personally like my 125 grain version of the NOE 314008 for the 327, and I have just gotten a "little" Mihec 314640 mould that throws a 105 grain bullet that I would expect to be my "go-to" bullet for the H&R. You didn't ask, but the same gun will take the 32 S&W Long, and I like the old Lyman 313445 and 313492 to cover that round. Powder? I like Bullseye for the S&W Long, and Accurate 7 & 9 for the big guys. I use standard (not magnum) small pistol primers for all rounds. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)

Froggie

[edadmartin]

green frog thanks for the info. I do have a 3 pcs lee .32 die set , will I need a fc die as well? I do fc my 45acp. I have 700x 800x red dot and Accurite #2 for powders where would you start from that list? I just got some Am eagle 327 so Ill reload those to start.
On the 327 would I expect to get 1200-1400 fps from a 100-125 grain boolit setup?
there are some lee dies around locally which one would be a good one so as to keep mold pricing down? thanks

[Pilgrim]

OK...been looking around for a .327 Federal for quite some time now. I'm not at all interested in a magnum of any flavor with a barrel 3" or less. In fact, I'm not really interested in a 4" barrel truth be told. I'd love to find a 6" or longer barreled .327 but it doesn't appear anybody makes one! Odd, but that appears to be the case. Can anybody help me find one of those critters? Pilgrim

[sandman228]

I use lee 32 h&r dies for 32 and 327 ,as for a mold lee 90 gr tumble lube swc bullet shoots good (I just wish they made it in a 6 cav.) sized to .314 . I usually load it over win 231 or imr 4227 . it shoots pretty good out of my gp100 327 mag .

[dilly]

OK...been looking around for a .327 Federal for quite some time now. I'm not at all interested in a magnum of any flavor with a barrel 3" or less. In fact, I'm not really interested in a 4" barrel truth be told. I'd love to find a 6" or longer barreled .327 but it doesn't appear anybody makes one! Odd, but that appears to be the case. Can anybody help me find one of those critters? Pilgrim

Lipsey's is about to run an exclusive set of "Single Sevens" with long barrels. Better get on the list.

[dilly]

thinking about a revolver for the hard to get H&R .32 and federal 327 magnum brass. A friend has dies for me and Im interested in casting for the taurus 327m. Which brand dies should I get,3pc or 4 pc also what mold should I look for? what is a good starting point from your experience.
and if any you have any brass for sale Id be interested, thanks

I think Freedom Arms is selling some on their website.

[Gus Youmans]

edadmartin,

For the .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R I would try powders in order of Accurate #2, Red Dot, 700X and 800X. My guns generally prefer WW 231 and Bullseye and would recommend those if you can find any. From your list I have only used Accurate #2 and Red Dot for light practice loads in the two aforementioned cartridges and have not used 700X or 800X. H110 was my choice for the .327 Federal Magnum and was accurate with Hornady 100 grain XTP.

I have used the Lee 90 grain tumble lube bullet, RCBS 98 grain SWC, and the Accurate 31-105K for the .32 S&W Long and the .32 H&R Magnum. I cast better bullets with the RCBS and Accurate molds and have found both bullets easily capable of sub-2" groups at 25 yards from a 3" SP101 and 4" GP100 from a Ransom rest. Both guns have shot some sub-1" groups but the average is probably closer to 1.5" with loads that they like. I think the Lee 90 grain bullet would work OK but I have not worked with it enough to really wring it out and see what it will do.

Gus Youmans

[edadmartin]

thanks again, Now for .327 do I need a factory crimp die?? also at what fps would I need to use gas checks? or are they only for long guns?
I love Accurite #2 and waited almost 8 months to get lohman arms to ship 4 pounds. It meters so great in my Lee setup.

[Pilgrim]

Lipsey's is about to run an exclusive set of "Single Sevens" with long barrels. Better get on the list.

Lipsey's - Not aware of this outfit. How do I contact them?

[Gus Youmans]

edadmartin,

For the .327 Federal and its ancestors, you can get by with using the same die to seat and crimp; it is just a little bit more time consuming to get the seating depth adjustment and crimp adjustment correct. I always use four dies to reload pistol/revolver cartridges because I like to seat bullets and then crimp as a separate operation. I developed this habit when reloading match ammunition for bullseye competition and just can't shake it. Your loaded rounds should chamber correctly whether you use the standard crimp die or a factory crimp die.

Gus Youmans

[Gus Youmans]

Pilgrim,

Lipsey's is a distributor that sells to gun stores. You can google them to find their website. I had to go through my local gun store since I do not have an FFL.

Gus Youmans

[Green Frog]

thanks again, Now for .327 do I need a factory crimp die?? also at what fps would I need to use gas checks? or are they only for long guns?
I love Accurite #2 and waited almost 8 months to get lohman arms to ship 4 pounds. It meters so great in my Lee setup.

I bought a Lee FC die at a gun show on the suggestion of a good friend who said I would probably need it. As of now, hundreds of rounds later... it's still in the box! Generally, I find FC (and taper crimp) dies of much more value for loading semi-auto rounds rather than revolver rounds. They don't seem to hurt on revolver rounds, they just don't seem necessary.

Froggie

[OuchHot!]

Pilgrim, I went to the Lipsey's site and looked up their dealer network and went to my favorite on the list. His comment was that Lipsey will likely have enough made to cover firm orders. He has been straight with me in the past so I expect that I will see one sooner or later. I am kinda ambivalent about this as the price is pretty high. I'm just nuts on the .32's and want to try one out.

[Pilgrim]

[QUOTE=Gus Youmans;2898884]Pilgrim,

Lipsey's is a distributor that sells to gun stores. You can google them to find their website. I had to go through my local gun store since I do not have an FFL.

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Thanks, Gus. I found their website and they have a "local" (~40 mi.) dealer so I'll see if that dealer will take an order for me.

Pilgrim

[UnderDawgAl]

I've got one of the Lipsey's Single Sevens on order. It should be a fun gun, in the perfect package size for the round.

Regarding brass availability, if the Lipsey's special run does well, perhaps that will be impetus for the reloading suppliers to add more availability. Of course, I recognize that, in the grand scheme of things, the demand for .327 Fed Mag brass and related components pales in comparison to, say, .357 Mag or 44 Mag or .45 ACP.

[edadmartin]

I think tumble lube is what ill do on the revolver,so the RCBS 98 grain SWC comes in at .314 and the lee at .314, but is a 90 grain .the rcbs is around 70.00 and the lee is around 20.00, Which one should I start with,

[Green Frog]

I use lee 32 h&r dies for 32 and 327 ,as for a mold lee 90 gr tumble lube swc bullet shoots good (I just wish they made it in a 6 cav.) sized to .314 . I usually load it over win 231 or imr 4227 . it shoots pretty good out of my gp100 327 mag .

Sand, they made that swc-tl in a six cavity for a while... I got one a year or so ago in a trade or sale of some sort, but I passed it on to Dale53 who has been experimenting with the TL System and already had the 6 cavity wc-tl from Lee. I don't know whether he has done anything with the swc yet or not, but his wc mould was dropping the bullets large enough that they had to be sized before they could be used. IMHO, if you are going to size the bullets anyway, it seems logical to use a combo lube and size press of some sort and do what is needed all in one step... JMHO, YMMV.

Froggie

[A pause for the COZ]

What is hard to get about them? I like the 32 RCBS swc and NOE copy of the Ly 3118/311008. I have a gc mold for the 327 as well but am Ok with speeds under 1500 fps and no check. My guns are a Ruger SS and a CA target 4" patriot.

Ohhh man I am envious of you. You have one of the Charter Arms Target bulldogs. I had one on my to get list, then they quit making them... Grrrr
I did get a Taurus snubbie before they quit making them.

As for the OP's question.
In my 32's ( 32L, 32 H&R mag, 327 mag, and 32-20) I am shooting these.
LEE 311-100-2R
http://www.titanreloading.com/molds/bullet-molds/32-20-32-sw-long-32-colt-np/lee-dc-mold-311-100-2r

It is a nice bullet and shoots well. Drops from my mold at .312
I prefer to shoot at .313 so I have started to powder coat them and shoot them unsized at .313
I have shot them as cast tumble lubed. You can tumble lube standard lube grooved bullets just fine.

I have that LEE swc mold. Leaded like a beast in one of my 32's so I quit using it.
I may try it again Powder Coated to see if that helps. They shot fine.

I use a set of LEE 32 s&W dies and a set of Hornady 32L dies.

[snowwolfe]

If you are having a hard time finding brass or dies its because you are not looking hard enough. I ordered one of the Lipsey 7.5 inch models and recently ordered 500 pieces of Starline brass from Grafs (in stock). The bought a set of Hornady reloading dies from Amazon. Finally ordered a bunch of Hornady 85 gr XTP bullets from Natchez because I might not cast for this since the bullets were so cheap.

Or you could go the easy route and simply visit gunbot and buy ammo, which there is a huge selection of. If you want to backorder anything from Starline here is a good hint. Call them up in person and tell them what you want and give them your credit card number. Trust me, you will receive the brass before it even shows up in stock on their web page.

[edadmartin]

with the lee factory taper crimp/ roll crimp die, what is the procedure for proper crimp? to go from taper to roll is there a point to little or to much? how do you Know? Lee's instructions are vague at best.For revolver do I want one over the other? so many questions thanks.

[edadmartin]

for the 327 federal magnum can a cast 32-20 bullet be used in revolver w/o gas check? or is it only a rifle bullet. see attached lyman mold blurb
http://www.buffaloarms.com/Lyman_Bullet_Moulds_it-160677.aspx?CAT=4119

[dondiego]

That Lyman bullet will work fine in a .327 Fed. as long as it is fat enough for your revolver.

[Gus Youmans]

edadmartin,

FYI, it appears that Starline is getting ready to ship .32 H&R Magnum brass, if you still need brass.

Gus Youmans

[edadmartin]

Im frustrated, I cant find a nice 327 federal magnum snubby revolver anywhere ,anyone want to sell one?

[Fergie]

Im frustrated, I cant find a nice 327 federal magnum snubby revolver anywhere ,anyone want to sell one?

I've been looking locally for months and have only found one, and it was four hours away.

I hadn't heard about the .327 Federal until I started looking around for a replacement of my old Charter Arms .32H&R magnum. Once I started reading about the cartridge, I wanted one, but dang are they hard to come by.

Patience. One will come up someday! Now, if only the same can be said for a .32 H&R lever gun...even more difficult to find at a reasonable price.