Renington 14 boolit choice?

[georgerkahn]

I have Remington Model 14 in .32 Rem caliber. I've read on 'net, and seen descriptions for many bullets/boolits warning that said slugs are for "model 8 and 81 only", and will not function in Model 14s.

Cutting right to the chase, I'm hoping there are Cast Boolit members who successfully cast, load, and shoot for their Model 14s. I'd REALLY appreciate hearing what works -- and even what doesn't -- one note I read was a story of woe from a fellow who had a FN loaded cartridge "forever jammed" (he asked for gunsmith help re removal).

Any/all suggestions surely will be appreciated; thank you in advance!

BEST!
geo

[texassako]

Accurate Molds made me a close copy of the Lyman 321317. It was made for the 32 Remington. 32-155 L in his catalog.

[Harter66]

Mine likes the 323-17? 2R Lee. I cut the GC out of 1 cavity and shoot that one in the Remmy. I run it through a 323 sizer and shoot it 3.0 gr under the start load for IMR 4350 w/jacketed for the 32 WIN SPCL. I get 3'' 100yd groups at 2100 fps w/WDWW I could work it more but it hit my basic needs for a game load and the minimum for big game here.

As a footnote the Remington sxs w/the Winchester looks AI'd w/a Weatherby shoulder, except that Ackley and Weatherby weren't tweeking cases when Remington did the line.

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32 Win ,32 Rem,3 @ 7x6.8 Rem cast,PP'd,Jacked. The 6.8 is 25,30,32 Rem shortened conventionaly shouldered and necked for 277 .

[georgerkahn]

Thanks -- I checked out the 32-155L, but (I apologize for my ignorance) I was under the impression that round nose boolits were/are OK for the 14 Rems, with anything else causing problems. Just about every commercial .32 boolit which is NOT round nose indicates they'll ONLY work in the Model 8 or 81. But -- if you say the boolits cast from this mould WILL and DO function OK in your model 14... than I'd best be ordering one? Please -- again w/ apologies for me being kind of dumb -- confirm? The 10 old factory rounds I have (Winchester & UMC (Rem) brands) are all round nosed... BEST! geo

[Harter66]

It is my understanding and I recieved a half box of ammo w/mine that the spitzers were acceptable as well as round nose for the Remington 25,30,32 CARTRIDGE rifles. I have also seen KNOWN factory ammo for 30 Rem w/spitzers loaded . If you look closely at the picture you can see that the Remington case would be pretty hard to get into a Winchester chamber . While all of the info I gleaned about the guns and cartridges has shown that they were designed for spitzers to give them the precieved advantage. The American 32s are .321 and w/just the 32 Win left (to my knowledge) there isn't a lot of demand for more than the standard 170gr bullet. 8mm bullets at 323 might be ok if we were working w/late model guns but just topping out 175-180 323 dia spitzer w/4895 using Win data in the larger Rem cases in the model 14. I've been through a model 8 in 300 Savage so I might not be so skidish w/them aside from them being 85-100 yr old .The 14 was discontinued in 1935 w/the last 25,30 and 32 factory ammo in 1964.

[Pilgrim]

Got a Model 14 in .30 Rem. You can use any boolit in the rifle you choose to use. Spitzer, round nose, and flat nose are all OK in the rifle. It doesn't make any difference if the rifle is a Model 14 or the later 141 (got one of those in .35 Rem), .25, .30, and .32 Rem are all based on the same case. The .35 is a different case. I believe you will have better luck (accuracy wise) with a round nose or flat point. Spitzer boolits have a reputation for slumping on the nose and accuracy in that case goes all to h@-#. The spitzer "story" doesn't always hold true. It depends on boolit fit (like always). Pilgrim

[Harter66]

I will elaborate . I was speaking more generally of bullets an boolits . Spitzer and spires don't work well in cast . I should have been more specific when refering to jacketed.

[texassako]

The only reason I can think of for a bullet stating it is not for a Model 14/141 is one without a way to crimp for loading in the tube(bullet might set back) or a long nose making for a to long OAL. The main reason my Accurate mold is flat nose is because he requires a meplat in the design with the way he machines the mold cavities. The .25/.30/.32 chambers can have a pretty abrupt throat. I think your reference to a jam may have been someone getting a wide flat nose design stuck in the rifling and needing a gunsmith to pull the barrel to get the loaded round out safely. I use Leverevolution powder with the 32-155L worked up using the 160 gr FTX bullet .32 Winchester Special data for my hunting load, by the way.