HM2, Round Ball molds, you pick your size

[JTknives]

The time is apon us to finly start the group buy on round balls. All the prices and options are on my website. Go to the Round Ball section and find you size.

I am away from the shop till Monday so just post here what you want and we will use this thread as the group buy list. I will start running these as soon as I get back to the shop so get your orders in. If you have any questions send me a PM and I will get back to you.

The mold blocks are our standard 3" long 7075-T6 aluminum blocks. Right now the largest I can do is a 3 cav around .680 or so in this block. As you go smaller I can do more cavs. I test cut a .680 mold for my 12ga befor I left and it came out great. A lot of people will ask me about size tolerance. And to that I say I cut them to drop as close to your desired size as possible. Thing I found put about pure lead is you can get it to drop just about any size with in a + or - .002 range. I don't have a lot of experience casting round balls out of pure but the casting I did with the .680 showed that the larger thy get the harder it is to nail it spot on in size. Like I said I do my very best but there is tolerance I take into account when making them. With my 680 mold I swore I cut it small. Then I cranked the heat even higher and it fell right on size. Then I went hotter and it went a tad .001-.002 over my desired size. The onley reason I bring this up is to make you aware of this in your selection of your round ball size.
Price is determined by the size of the round ball and the number if cavs. I have all the pricing on my web site. Just select round balls and look for your size range and then select the number of cavs. Less cavs are less money so each cav you remove drops the price by a set amount for that ball size range. If you have any questions send me a PM and I will get back to you.
Thanks guys

Here is the group buy list. double check your order to make sure I got it down correct.
some people requested ball sizes in a higher cav count than can fit in our mold blocks. I changed these to the correct cav count.

quasi: 1@ .688
jmortimer: 2@ .679
turbo1889: 2@.411 5cav, 2@.679 3cav, 1@.626 3cav
redriverhunter: 1@.411 5cav
WMB30: 1@.610 .3cav
nanuk: 1@.679 3cav
curator: 1@.480 3cav
Dean D:1@.590, 1@.424, 1@.311
Buckshot Bill: 2@.330 6cav
rxp46: 1@.495 4cav, 1@.575 3cav
Grantb: 1@.624 3cav
masscaster: 1@.311 6cav
huntnman: 1@.679 3cav
SNEAKY NL: 1@.311 6cav

www.HeavyMetalMolds.com

[quasi]

I will take a 3 cavity at .688 or so.

[Harter66]

Can you/would you consider mixing cavities? For example in a 5 hole block 2 3 ball chains of 380 w/3 2 ball chains of 452?

[jmort]

Thank you for doing this. Will order ASAP

[John Ross]

Your website is confusing in that it says "Sold Out" on this group buy.

JR

[JTknives]

Yes it's sold out as it's not turned on yet. That's why I said post HERE what you want.

[JTknives]

On this run there is no mixing of cav sizes. I could wright a program to do it but as it sits it's a lot more work to mix.

[turbo1889]

At current I'm trying to decide how many molds to get on this one which I clearly indicated in the proposition thread that I was going to be in on. If I only buy three or so that leaves some of the money I've already had set aside for when this group buy matured that I could spend on another project. Or I could spend it all and get five or six molds and fully cover almost all the ball sizes I would like.

Decisions, decisions . . . :confused:

[JTknives]

Come on guys, where is all the guys that spoke up on the other thread. I will give you guys a little info on how this will go. Once I make the molds you want I will then setup the mill of for something else and wont be able to do round balls till i set it up for RB agian. There is a lot of set up and testing that goes into getting the mill ready for custom round balls. So if our considering a custom sized round ball now is the time to get it.

[jmort]

I would like two .680s.

P.S. You can make mine .679 per Turbo's order if that is easier. Picky guy that Turbo, round numbers just won't do. And I can't read simple parameters for the specs. Would be nice to get .732

[turbo1889]

Decision made, I will take:

2 @ 5-cavity 0.411" RB
2 @ 3-cavity 0.679" RB
1 @ 3-cavity 0.626" RB

So that’s a total of five molds for me, Thank You !!!


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@ jmortimer

Largest size he is running on this buy is up to 0.688" so NO big 73-cal. round balls for full bore ball in 12ga. on this buy. Ball in wad for 12ga. CAN DO. Naked ball up to 16ga. CAN DO.


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@ JTknives(HM^2)

I just put up leader threads in several other sections of this forum to try to drum up some more members to get in on this group buy and make it a success. Shotgun Section, Muzzle-loader Section, Mold Design & Maintenance Section. Thank You for doing this for us; I think a lot of guys had almost given up on it happening and then all of a sudden it is happening like right now and they got caught off guard a little. Probably not that many keep $500 set aside in an envelope for a year patiently waiting for it to happen like I did.

[Hogtamer]

I see a 12 cavity OO buck mold on your website...for $85....and these are $100? What about handles?

[JTknives]

thy use lee 6 cav handles. the reason the buck shot molds are 85 is because we made a bunch at one time and thy are not a custom size.

[turbo1889]

. . . P.S. You can make mine .679 per Turbo's order if that is easier. Picky guy that Turbo, round numbers just won't do. . . .

LOL !!! :smile:

Actually, I just measured the actual size (as in the actual diameter of the balls they cast with pure-ish lead) of my existing single cavity molds that I already have loads developed for and know they are the right size for my applications and matched up size for size to get as close as possible to straight across substitution.

I almost went for five different sizes one mold each size with a couple muzzle loader sizes in there as well but I decided to instead double up and double down on my two favorite shotgun ball sizes instead since I don't shoot enough with the muzzle loaders to really justify upgrading to a gang mold for them.

I am so looking forward to those 5-cavity 0.411 molds. My non-choke 410 bore guns have been hard to keep fed with only a single two cavity mold that my woman keeps liberating especially when it comes to triple ball loads for them that use three of those balls per single load. Got a 6-cav. 0.395" ball mold but those balls are only for the choked guns since the undersized balls don't shoot as tight a pattern in the non-choked gun as a true full bore ball does.

[dverna]

Would any of you be able to recommend what size ball I should order.

I have three guns - all Mossberg 500's. Two are short barrel 'defensive' guns and the other is a "Slugster".

I want to load light loads at about 1200 fps or less in 2 3/4" cases. I have Winchester, STS and Federal cases. Wads are either the Winchester target wad, Federal wads, or the Downrange Green Dusters - but I can buy any wad that will do the best job. I do not want to build a "wad column" unless it is necessary. Adding a scoop of grits is OK but I do not want to cut wads or petals. KISS

I am looking for a load that is easy to produce in quantity for training that has enough performance to make accurate hits on two legged varmints at 50 yards.

Thanks for any advice offered

Don Verna

[JTknives]

Would any of you be able to recommend what size ball I should order.

I have three guns - all Mossberg 500's. Two are short barrel 'defensive' guns and the other is a "Slugster".

I want to load light loads at about 1200 fps or less in 2 3/4" cases. I have Winchester, STS and Federal cases. Wads are either the Winchester target wad, Federal wads, or the Downrange Green Dusters - but I can buy any wad that will do the best job. I do not want to build a "wad column" unless it is necessary. Adding a scoop of grits is OK but I do not want to cut wads or petals. KISS

I am looking for a load that is easy to produce in quantity for training that has enough performance to make accurate hits on two legged varmints at 50 yards.

Thanks for any advice offered

Don Verna

I'm in the same boat and that's why I built me a .678-.680 ball mold. This would allow me to load in a shot cup. I tried it in a normal 1-1/8th oz shot cup and i think its to deep. So tonight actually I'm picking up some 7/8th oz shot cups to see if thy work better. I want KISS as well

[jmort]

I would go with the #0 buckshot aka .320 and 19 grains of Red Dot will get you what you asked for. Stacks well, better than #00, and 10 #0s will be effective out to 50 yards. Little over an ounce, 475 grains +/- and should be manageable recoil.

[longbow]

I would love to go for a 3 cavity 0.660" to 0.665" and a 3 cavity in 0.675" to 0.680". Unfortunately toy money is tight right now so I will have to pass. Hopefully, next time this rolls around I will be in better shape to buy.

I will be eagerly waiting on reports on casting results with these moulds... and of course field reports shooting the balls.

Longbow

[longbow]

+1 for what excess650 said about 0.662"/0.650" RB's.

I have no complaints about my 0.678" mould either but the 0.662" has produced some very nice groups at 50 yards if I do my part. I find that with the wads I can get, the 0.662" ball is a bit small so I cloth or paper patch to take up the slack then they work very well.

Best accuracy I have gotten to date is with both 0.662" balls patched and with 0.735" balls on hard card wad columns with both turning in repeatable groups of 3" to 4" at 50 yards.

If I was choosing one ball it would be the 0.662" as it fits any shotcup if patched and thick petal shotcups unpatched, and it is choke friendly should it ever find its way into a choked gun.

I am currently leaning towards the 0.678" RB's simply because they fit Winchester wads well so no patching required but I have not yet gotten groups as tight as with the 0.662" ball.

If I had the toy money I would be in this group buy for sure!

Longbow

[JTknives]

Ok guys just a heads up, I will be running these at the end of the day tomarow. So last calls, we have a lot of things to do on the mill and can't wait much longer to do this run. If you want in let me know. For the people above if you want a mold but don't have the money right now let me know. I can make it and hold it for you.

[redriverhunter]

I would like a 5-cavity 0.411" RB
rrh

[WMB30]

I would like a 2 cavity 0.610 RB

Bill

[JTknives]

Sounds good I did not start running molds today.

[WMB30]

Ttt bump

[nanuk]

I'm in for a 0.679 also 3C

that is all I can afford right now

I hope I see the next run for other sizes.

I'd like to feed all my shotties some roundball!

[curator]

I need a 3-cavity .480 round ball mould--PM me for payment--

Curator

[JTknives]

Keep the orders coming, I will take orders till I finish milling that last order. I'm guessing I will be done running them on Monday

[JTknives]

Running molds now. i think I'm going to make a few extra.679 for late comers

[JTknives]

Dean D
1 mold @ .590
1 mold @ .424

[Buckshot Bill]

on the 6 cavity in a .330 will any of the cavities be linked together like your buckshot mold? If not count me in for two .330 w/ 6 cavities

[rxp46]

I would be in for a 5 cav .495 and 4 cav .575
if possible...

Gr Jan.

[Grantb]

I would like a 2 cavity at .624

Thank you!

[turbo1889]

I would be in for a 5 cav .495 and 4 cav .575
if possible...

Gr Jan.

With the length of the blocks he is using on this run (as far as I know):

Max number of cavities he can do in 0.495 size is 4 cav.
Max number of cavities he can do in 0.575 size is 3 cav.


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@ WMB30 and Grantb

I think the lowest number of cavities he is doing is 3 cav. He may or may not be cutting just two cavity if that is what you want. He did post after WMB30 asked for just a two cavity and he didn't say no so he may indeed be doing just two cavities for those who want that.


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Ultimately JTknives(HM^2) is the final authority on both of those two points above. Just thought I would point out those two things I noticed upon revisiting this thread since my last post on it.

[masscaster]

I'm interested in a .311 RB in 6 Cavity.

Jeff

P.S.
If possible I'd also like a .985 - .988 RB in a Single Cavity. : )

[Grantb]

Please change my order to a three cavity at .624

[Dean D.]

JT, edit my list to add a 6 cav .311 mould.

[JTknives]

ok dean i got ya down for a 311

bill i got ya down for 2 .330

[huntnman]

If not too late I'll take a .679. With what ever # of cavity(3?),for us late joiners(couldn't get into forum yesterday).

[JTknives]

still taking orders,

[masscaster]

Seems you missed my request.

My post is before dean's, and is the same mould.

Jeff

[SNEAKY_NL]

Me to a .311 6 cav

Grts Dave

[JTknives]

Ok I got the group list posted in the first post, double check your order to make sure its correct.

[turbo1889]

Ok I got the group list posted in the first post, double check your order to make sure its correct.

Correct for me !!!


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What I find most interesting is the pattern of several popular sizes that developed. Although I do not believe this group buy reached its full potential and is only a limited slice of the market it was still interesting to watch the pattern develop of popular sizes that are not commonly available and/or not commonly available in gang molds to produce many balls at once.

Thumbs up to JTknives(HM^2) for doing this for us all !!!

[masscaster]

Looks good. ; )

[Dean D.]

My order is correct JT.

[JTknives]

molds are just about done, so if there are any other mold orders get them in NOW.

[turbo1889]

molds are just about done, . . .

[smilie=w: :drinks:

[rockrat]

I will take a 4 cav. .501"

[WMB30]

List shows 3 cavity, change request 2 cavity

Bill

[JTknives]

List shows 3 cavity, change request 2 cavity

Bill

The reason why is because we don't offer a 2 cavity.

[JTknives]

I will take a 4 cav. .501"
Your on the list just in time. We will finish the on Monday

[WMB30]

The reason why is because we don't offer a 2 cavity.

3 cavity will be fine

Bill

[JTknives]

All the 3 cavity sprue plates are spoken for.

[JTknives]

Alright guys payment is due, molds will go out asap (as soon as paid). I am trying something different when it comes to paying for your group buy. I made an item for each of you on the web site. So go to the website and click group buys and then round balls, then find your user name. click on your order and buy it. There is only one in stock for each order so don't buy some one else's order, if you do your order will not be filled and the money will be returned.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE PRICE IS 10 TIMES MORE THEN NORMAL. THIS IS TO KEEP RANDOM PEOPLE FROM BUYING YOUR MOLD ORDER. I WILL BE SENDING OUT A COUPON CODE YOU WILL ENTER "when checking out" AND IT WILL DROP THE PRICE TO THE NORMAL PRICE.

here is where you pay for your molds
http://heavymetalmolds.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_10
if you have any problems let me know.

[turbo1889]

Payment made via. PayPal ~ Past Tense !!!

[jmort]

Me too.

[Dean D.]

Paypal payment sent. Thanks JT!

[JTknives]

How do you guys like the new Groupbuy payment system?

[Dean D.]

It worked well for me.

[SNEAKY_NL]

How do you guys like the new Groupbuy payment system?

Step 2 doesn't work by me for payment.

[JTknives]

ya, i had another guy have a problem. its something to do with pay-pal. it says your address does not match. just finish the order and select money order/ phone and call us and i will run your card.

[JTknives]

well all molds are made and most where shipped a few days ago so thy should be arriving any day.

[Hogtamer]

Pls check your pm, i have a question about a custom mold. Thanks, hal

[Buckshot Bill]

got my two today. pot is heating up now can't wait to try them

[Dean D.]

My 3 molds arrived safely today, things of beauty!

[Buckshot Bill]

took some minor tweaking but these run nice ball!

[wacki]

Can you do a 18 cav #1 buckshot? This is supposed to be the best self defense round.

[marvin54]

Alright guys payment is due, molds will go out asap (as soon as paid). here is where you pay for your molds http://heavymetalmolds.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_10 if you have any problems let me know. Does this mean the group buy is over for the round ball molds?

[JTknives]

the run is done, but the mill is still set up for a little bit, if you want something let me know ASAP.

[marvin54]

I'd like 1 3-cavity mold @ .679" Each mold is $100 correct? Thanks for fitting me in, i appreciate it. Scott

[JTknives]

not a problem, i will get your mold made tomarow

[JTknives]

Anyone that's having a hard time paying for there order on the web site can just send the money to
n_storrs@.hotmail.com (n_storrs_@.hotmail.com)
then send me a pm saying you paid and what you want, and also your name so i can match you up with the pay-pal payments.

[marvin54]

JTknives, how do you want to complete this transaction? Through the website? I checked the group buy section of heavymetalmolds.com and didn't see anything with my screen name. let me know. Thanks, Scott

[JTknives]

i have not been able to make it yet, im going to do it today i hope. but yes online is where you will buy it.

[nanuk]

Anyone that's having a hard time paying for there order on the web site can just send the money to
n_storrs@.hotmail.com (n_storrs_@.hotmail.com)
then send me a pm saying you paid and what you want, and also your name so i can match you up with the pay-pal payments.


I still can't navigate through the site.

Can you quote me a total and PM me, so I can PP you at your address?
Shipping to Saskatchewan Canada, S6V5R2

thanks
'nuk

[JTknives]

pm on its way

[nanuk]

got the PM

your email as posted in the above address isn't being accepted.

can you PM me your PayPal email?

thanks

[masscaster]

Mould arrived today.

Thanks,
Jeff

[nanuk]

I got the PayPal thing figured out

money should be in your PP inbox.

'nuk

[Grantb]

Got my mould today. Thanks!

[marvin54]

JTknives, just wondering about the status of the mold we talked about. I haven't heard from you in a few days. Thanks, Scott

[square butte]

If your mill is still set up - would like a 3 cavity .630 .

[JTknives]

sorry been busy. ya i wil get your mold out to you. i will send you a pm on how to pay for it.

JTknives, just wondering about the status of the mold we talked about. I haven't heard from you in a few days. Thanks, Scott

ya i should be able to cut ya a mold. i will also send you a pm on how to pay.

If your mill is still set up - would like a 3 cavity .630 .

[square butte]

Thank you Sir.

[marvin54]

ok, I understand about being busy. Thanks, Scott

[JTknives]

you wanted a .679 right?


ok, I understand about being busy. Thanks, Scott

[marvin54]

you wanted a .679 right? thats correct. 3 cav .679

[nanuk]

A box arrived in the mail. Return addy sez HM2!!!!!

[marvin54]

I got my mold today, it looks great. Thanks

[square butte]

JT - Still hoping to get that .630 as per previous post.

[dreadpiraterobberts]

Just an idea while you are setup for cutting round ball molds. You could add #4 buckshot molds to your collection of stock molds. I'd like to see a quality mold that will drop enough shot to fill a 12ga. shell (27) per pour.

[gvanzeggelaar]

are you interested in doing a 3 cavity .662 diameter?

Send me a pm if you are.

Thanks

[ratboy]

looking for a .400 3 or 4 cavity

[JTknives]

I am no longer making molds. I own the companey name and website but the machines I was making them on where not mine. And I do not work there any more. The owner of the machines was the persion receiving all the money from the molds. I was just a salery employ as we had started a supressure companey togather and we had extra time on the machines so I told him I think we could make molds. Well the gun Market slowed way down for us and so I found another job. I want the molds to keep going I just don't know how I'm going to do it right now. All the inventory was turned over to Kevin who manages the gun store. Thy are filling the orders and shipping them I am no longer in the picture so to speak. I will do whatever is can to help you guys out.

[Whiterabbit]

I am no longer making molds. I own the companey name and website but the machines I was making them on where not mine. And I do not work there any more. The owner of the machines was the persion receiving all the money from the molds. I was just a salery employ as we had started a supressure companey togather and we had extra time on the machines so I told him I think we could make molds. Well the gun Market slowed way down for us and so I found another job. I want the molds to keep going I just don't know how I'm going to do it right now. All the inventory was turned over to Kevin who manages the gun store. Thy are filling the orders and shipping them I am no longer in the picture so to speak. I will do whatever is can to help you guys out.

Easy. Enjoy your family, and enjoy your new (and better) job! Some time in the future, a mill will fall into your lap and you'll have the resources (which may or may not be financial, one of them is certainly time) to restart your side business. That might happen tomorrow, next year, or next decade. The molds are just dormant, is all. We'll wait. We're patient. These aren't throwaway iPhones, here.

We can wait for the resurection of the HM2 brand.

[nanuk]

always time to wait for a QUALITY product!