32/8mm GC lightweight GB *Refunds being issued*

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

This is the kick off of the 32/8mm GC lightweight group buy. Sorry for the delay, I had unforseen work and internet issues after I volunteered to honcho this GB. All is well now and we are ready to start.

The group buy will be for a Lee 6 cavity mold. It is a gascheck design, spec'd to weigh in at 135grs when cast of wheelweights. We're shooting for a diameter of .326" on the driving bands and .313" on the nose. Drawing is below. Cost will be $65.00 per mold, which will include shipping in the cont. USA, a mold for the designer, and some extra funds to be donated to CastBoolits. Multiple mold orders will get a break on shipping. Of course, price is assuming we hit the required minimum for an order, and may be changed if need be and agreed to. DO NOT SEND FUNDS YET!! When we get close to the required # of orders, I'll post a "last call" and then send payment information to all who have indicated that they want a mold. Personal check or money order will be fine, NO PAYPAL.

Please post your interest, number of molds desired (if more than one) and zip code in this thread. As we get close to 25 responses, I'll set it up on the GB website.

More details will be posted here as they become available.

Please bear with me on this one, it's my first GB.

Thanks

SSB

[porkchop bob]

1 @ 29439

Thanks, Bob

[CENTEX BILL]

1 for me.

Thanks for honchoing this buy.

78132

[IcerUSA]

1
48838

Nice one for sure

Keith

[dromia]

Thanks for doing this.

I'm in for one. :-D

[45 2.1]

Something to look at:

[ShooterJK]

I'm in for one.

I'm in Canada so shipping may be a bit more.

A1E 2Y9

[Cayoot]

Im thinking that I'm a strong "probably".

[jballs918]

he guys i missed the first one of this, does anyone have a time table on how far lee is behind on the gb. i would like one but if it will take a year then i will stick with my 2 holer.

[jim4065]

Reckon I'm good for one.

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

I've added some details about the boolit to the original post in this thread, diameters and so forth, please check it out.

As of this morning, we're sitting at 7 orders, I think if we're over 25 by Jan 31st I'll do last call at that time.

Thanks

SSB

[Johnch]

I am game for 1

43445

John

[castalott]

I guess I'll take at least one.....I'm still waiting on 4 molds and it's been a long time.....

[singleshotbuff]

Ok gentlemen,

We're sitting at 10 as of this morning. Where is everyone that expressed interest in the original thread?

Speak up please.

SSB

[West Creek]

I'll take one at 46356

[singleshotbuff]

Gotcha West Creek.

Who else?? we're at 11 right now.

SSB

[spurgon]

Is this bullet good for the 32-40?
spurgon

[45 2.1]

Is this bullet good for the 32-40?
spurgon

The boolit is designed to be able to size down with little distortion. It should work fine for any of the 32 rifles and the 8mm's.

[Johnch]

Ok gentlemen,

We're sitting at 10 as of this morning. Where is everyone that expressed interest in the original thread?

Speak up please.

SSB

Money talks and Xmas bills hurt

Or was that BS walks [smilie=1:[smilie=1:

John

[singleshotbuff]

Weekend BUMP.

Just wanna keep it up for people to look at until we get closer to 25 molds.

SSB

[mag44uk]

I originally expressed interest in this, so put me down for one please.
I am in the UK so will expect to stump up for more p&p.
Thanks for running this.
Regards to all.
Tony

[singleshotbuff]

Got it Tony,

Will let you know additional postage cost when we get closer to ordering.

Thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Ok gentlemen,

We're still sitting on about 12 molds right now. I originally wanted to close this GB on 1/31/08, so......

Should we hold it open longer?

Should we let it die?

Input??

Thanks

SB

[mag44uk]

I vote for holding open for perhaps another 4 weeks.
I am not desperate!
Regards,
Tony

[dromia]

I'd run it a tad longer, let people get over the holiday season.

What would the extra be if we only went with twelve?

[junkbug]

I'm in for one.

20111

Sean

[OLPDon]

Keeper going!!!!!
Don

[singleshotbuff]

Ok guys,

Gonna hold it open a while longer, but please speak up.

Thanks

SSB

[SwedeNelson]

I'll go for one!
84601

Swede Nelson

[C1PNR]

We've had some pretty good products from Lee lately, and I don't have anything in this weight catagory for the .32 Special, or the 8mm for that matter.

So, put me (83706) down for one of these.

[LIMPINGJ]

I hope you will let this one run a few more weeks. I would be in for one, just need to get over Buckshots Fat Loverin.

[singleshotbuff]

LIMPINGJ,

Take your time, I'm gonna hold this buy open for a while longer. Gonna give people time to recover from the holidays. Post another note when you're ready to commit.

SSB

[9432]

Gents,
Chances are real good that I'll get in on this GB.I like this lightweight idea.I have a
Win.m94 .32ws that is a dedicated cast bullet shooter.I do have some questions.
How well do expect this shorter bullet to shoot in a 1-16in. twist barrel?
Is this a tumble lube design?If not,do you think it'll work ok using Lee's lube and size kit?
Is it possible to see detailed dimensions on the bullet drawing?
I assume the mould come with handles?
I'm in no hurry so keep it open for awhile longer.
Thanks guys,
Vic

[singleshotbuff]

Vic,

I'm not sure on the twist question, someone else will chime in on that.

It is not a tumble lube design, it has conventional lube grooves. Some people use, and have good luck with, Lee sizers and conventional lube grooved bullets.

45 2.1 will have to chime in with detailed dimensions for you.

The mold DOES NOT come with handles, the handles are available seperately from suppliers such as MidwayUSA.

Any more questions, fire away.

SSB

[msgt1030]

I would like to be in on this GB. Zip code is 84663.
Thanks,
Michael

[johnly]

I just purchased a 1948 Marlin 336A in 32 Winchester Special, so now I'm shopping for a mold. I plan on slugging the bore tonight, and if it's .322 or larger, I'll sign up for a mould.

John in Oregon

[45 2.1]

The diameter is spec'd at 0.326". With the loverin type bands, it will size easily down to about 0.321" with little distortion. We've done this with several other GBs of this band type and it works fine.

[Newtire]

I would like to get in on this one. A nice plinker for my Turk 8mm.

[johnly]

I just purchased a 1948 Marlin 336A in 32 Winchester Special, so now I'm shopping for a mold. I plan on slugging the bore tonight, and if it's .322 or larger, I'll sign up for a mould.

John in Oregon

Just slugged the bore of my Marlin and it's a tight 0.3195"
It looks like a standard 32 Special mold will be my best option.

Johnin Oregon

[singleshotbuff]

Newtire,

I'll put ya down. What's your zip code??

SSB

[Newtire]

Newtire,

I'll put ya down. What's your zip code??

SSB

My zip is 95006. Do you need me to send any $ now?

[singleshotbuff]

Newtire,

Not yet. I'll let everyone know when to send funds.

thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

BUMP

We're at 16 right now, I'm hoping we'll have enough to close the buy at the end of Feb.

Who else wants in?

SSB

[ShooterJK]

Put me in for a second one.

I'm already down for one but I mentioned it to a friend so now I need two.

[Mohillbilly]

My Winnie 32 special is a begg'n me for this, so I recon I'm in for one also.

[singleshotbuff]

Mohillbilly,

I'll add you to the list. What's your zip code there in LA (lower arnold)??

I used to live right up the highway in Fenton Mo.

Thanks

SSB

[Mohillbilly]

SSbuff,outside the city limits. Rockcreek/old21 zip is the same as LA, 63010

[singleshotbuff]

Mohillbilly,

Gotcha on the list.

Remember a gun store that used to be south of Arnold on Jeffco Blvd? It had an indoor range and was called Catfish Guns.

SSB

[Mohillbilly]

Yup was a member there untill they closed.Wife and I shot league,for a few seasons.We knew Barb,Steve,Ken,Kelly,and a bunch more.......

[singleshotbuff]

Wow, small world.

I used to work there. Woulda been prolly 12+ years ago.

Ken was/is one of the best gunsmiths I have ever known, an absolute wizzard with S&W triggers. Steve was a pistol, lol.

Kelly musta been Kelly Drummond, he was a great guy too.

I moved outta Mo 11 years ago, and was surprised when Dad told me Catfish had closed down.

Whatever happened there? I've always been curious.

SSB

[Mohillbilly]

Place just faded away,seems everyone lost intrest in shoot'n,for a while.The place is owned by a sceurity firm now, a place for them to train and practice.Ken moved to Wis. I think, he is a custom knife maker.Kelly and his 7-11 is doing well.saw him last spring,saw Barb at the grocers cople yrs ago she is well also......

[Boomer Mikey]

My 8mm Mauser would like one of these,

Put me down for one.

Boomer :Fire:

[singleshotbuff]

Boomer,

Gotcha on the list, what is your zip code??

SSB

[Boomer Mikey]

94591


Boomer,

Gotcha on the list, what is your zip code??

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Got it Boomer.

Mohillbilly, I looked Ken up online. He makes nice knives!! On his website he has a picture of a German Sheppard in his shop. He used to bring her into Catfish when I worked there. I may contact him about a knife, as good as he was with guns, I bet he makes a helluva knife.

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

BUMP.

we're sitting at 20 right now. Who else wants in? I'd like to close this buy soon so we can start the waiting process.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Okies , I'm in for one !

My zip is 22960 [smilie=1:

[singleshotbuff]

Gotcha 6pt.

SB

[Bret4207]

Put me down, tentativly, for 2. I know I'll take 1 for sure, talking with my bud about a 2nd. Zip 13642.

[singleshotbuff]

Bret,

Got it. If you're in for 2, that gets us to 22 total. I think I'll do last call around March 15th so we can get this show on the road.

Who else??

Thanks.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Bret,

Got it. If you're in for 2, that gets us to 22 total. I think I'll do last call around March 15th so we can get this show on the road.

Who else??

Thanks.

SSB


Just hang on until you get 25 !

I don't wanna pay more then $65 for this thing .

[6pt-sika]

If you want go ahead and PM me your mailing add and I will send you a personal check postdated for 3/15/08 . And at least you will have it in hand ! On the 15th !

[singleshotbuff]

weekend bump.

[Bret4207]

Okay- Dano67 and I are in for 2-confirmed. Make both under zip 13642. 22 total right?

[singleshotbuff]

Bret,

Noted.

Yes we are at 22 total.

SSB

[Mohillbilly]

PM sent

[LIMPINGJ]

SSB please put me down for 1 zip is 75440.
LIMPINGJ

[singleshotbuff]

LIMPINGJ,

gotcha.

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

I am ready to accept payments for this buy. I have sent a group PM to everyone who has indicated interest. Anyone who DOESN'T get my PM with payment instructions, please PM me. This buy will close on March 31st.

Thanks a lot guys!!

SSB

[IcerUSA]

Check is going in the mail on thursday , comeing at ya from 48838 .

Keith

[Newtire]

Sent P.M. already. Check with separate donation check went in yesterday's mail. Now the wait begins...always worth it in the end.

[OLPDon]

SingleShotBuf:

Going to P.O. in a few min. Check will be in the mail today.
Don 07208-1601

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Here is the first batch of zip codes that I have recieved payments from.

Thanks

SSB

62899
07208
48838
95006
84601
63010
22960
83706
43445
20111
94591
72034
A1E 2Y9
78132

(updated 3/24/08)

[singleshotbuff]

I updated the list of zip codes that I have recieved payments from as of today.

Thanks

SSB

[Johnch]

I put a check in the mail after work today

43445

JOhn

[6pt-sika]

I will try and get to the PO tommorrow and get a PO MO in the mail for you !

[singleshotbuff]

Updated zip code list again.

Also, thanks to dano, we have hit 25 molds. This buy will definately close on 3/31/08.

Anyone else want in?

Thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Updated the zip code list again after todays mail.

I have recieved a total of 12 payments so far.


SSB

[timcornish]

I just joined - have been casting since 1965 though. I want one of these if it is not too late. Where can I send the check? Still 65$?

[6pt-sika]

I just joined - have been casting since 1965 though. I want one of these if it is not too late. Where can I send the check? Still 65$?
Yes $65 !

I'll send you a PM with the mailing add !

[singleshotbuff]

Thanks 6pt!!

Tim,

Still $65, 6pt-sika will pm you my info for payment. PLEASE MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR SCREEN NAME on your payment. That way I can match up the real name/address to the board handle.

Thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Updated the zip code list again, see page 4 of this thread, it reflects payments recieved as of 3/24/08. I have recieved payments for 15 molds, we're doing good.

One week to go before I close this buy.

ANYONE ELSE WANT IN???

If so, please speak up.

Thanks

SSB

[Bret4207]

Dan and my check went out Monday. The delay was my fault.

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Here is the updated list of zip codes that I have recieved payments from as of 3/26/08.

Remember, this buy closes monday, 3/31/08.

If anyone else wants in, please speak now, or forever hold your peace.

62899
07208
48838
95006
84601
63010
22960
83706
43445
20111
94591
72034
A1e 2y9 (2)
78132
13642 (2)
11429
RG6 7LE
29439

Thanks

SSB

[6pt-sika]

With 17 folks do we have enough to get for $65 each ?

[swiss1]

Ohh,, this is a GC,(Gas Check). Not Kosher for BPCR silloutte, Drat! Does anyone know of a Non GC design, 120-150 gr, that can size down to .320 that I get hold of??

There is a drawing of the design on the first page of the thread. I think it'll size down to .320" ok. A Lee sizer should work, if they make one in that size.

Please let me know if you want in on this group buy. It closes monday 3/31/08.

Thanks

SSB


Quote:
Originally Posted by swiss1
ok. What else do I need to buy to get these down to .321?
Some kind of Lee size/luber? swiss1

My msg was sent 12/8/07 and was re the Re light weight .32 GB mold Is this the same?? I have not yet seen the design. My bore slugged at .319, with the fired .32 spl case id at .320-321. Will this work??
__________________

[45nut]

Welcome to CB Swiss 1,, I think except for the GC this would work for you if I read in between the lines right. There are new designs offered all the time though and something better may show up.

[singleshotbuff]

Updated the zip code list again with all payments recieved as of 3/29/08.

19 payments recieved so far.

Remember the buy closes Monday.

If you want in SPEAK UP NOW. I'll wait a week or so for payments to straggle in.

Thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Ok,

Payment recieved for 20 molds, zip code list is updated.

THE BUY IS CLOSED.

I'll wait a few days for payments, then I'll PM anyone who said that they want one and whose payment I haven't recieved.

Thanks to everyone for making this buy go smooth.

SSB

[swiss1]

Thanks 45nut.
I have a .310 BSA Martini Cadet, rechambered to .32 spl. Twist seems to be 19:1 +-. I am going to load some FN 170 gr that I got from a local BCPR caster, for a try. They were for .32/40. If they stay stable to 200 yd. they will be ok. Black powder. I'll keep checking for a lighter one.
Swiss1

[West Creek]

Hey Singleshotbuff

procrastination got the better of me but my money order is in the hands of the pony express and on its way to you.

West Creek

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Here is an updated list of zip codes that I have recieved payment from. The buy has been closed for one week, so I will PM those whose payment I have not recieved yet. If you have sent payment and you DO NOT see your zip code on this list, PLEASE PM ME.

Thanks

SSB

62899
07208
48838
95006
84601
63010
22960
83706
43445
20111
94591
72034
A1e 2y9 (2)
78132
13642 (2)
11429
RG6 7LE
29439
46410
87108

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

I updated the zip code list again. Only waiting on 2 more payments then the buy will go to Lee. Hopefully we can wrap this up this coming week or the next.

SSB

[OLPDon]

Singleshotbuff:
By my count that puts it up to 22, alittle short of the required 25 let us know what the ajusted $$$ cost is. Your doing the work you shouldn't have to put up the added $$$. Kindly inform and we can make up the differance.
Thanks again for doing the work on the Honcho.
Don

[singleshotbuff]

Don,

We are right at 25, counting me, because some people bought more than 1 mold. I'll be sending a PM to those whose payment I haven't recieved yet again tonight. I want to get this buy into Lee so be can begin the wait.

I'll keep everyone updated.

thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

We have a slight hiccup. 2 people who had originally wanted into the buy have had to back out. This leaves us at 23. Rather than have everyone else kick in extra to beat the minimum, I'm going to re-open the buy for a week or so. After that, if we're still short, I'll buy the remainder myself for later sale.

Sorry for the delay in getting this buy to Lee, things were going smooth up this point.

Thanks

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Gentlemen,

We have a slight hiccup. 2 people who had originally wanted into the buy have had to back out. This leaves us at 23. Rather than have everyone else kick in extra to beat the minimum, I'm going to re-open the buy for a week or so. After that, if we're still short, I'll buy the remainder myself for later sale.

Sorry for the delay in getting this buy to Lee, things were going smooth up this point.

Thanks

SSB


Don't sweat the delay !

If you hadn't stepped up to the plate there wouldn't be a group buy for this mould !

[OLPDon]

Not a problem take as long as you need, is my Vote.
Don

[singleshotbuff]

UPDATE.

Another member has joined the buy, this puts us back to 24. I'll post an updated zip code list as soon as I recieve his payment. We only need one more to get back to 25, but of course we'll welcome anyone else that wants in.

Anybody else??

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Here is an updated zip code list. We are now at 24 (with payments recieved) including me. We only need one more person to get into this buy so that it can go to Lee. I'll leave this open for another week or so, if no one speaks up by that time I'll pay for the last mold myself and just resell it later.

62899
07208
48838
95006
84601
63010
22960
83706
43445
20111
94591
72034
A1e 2y9 (2)
78132
13642 (2)
11429
RG6 7LE
29439
46410
87108
40162

Thanks

SSB

[rojovin]

I am new on this forum, is it too late to get in on the buy. My zip code is 11566
RoJoVin Long Island, NY

NRA Endowment Member.
SCI Life Member
Double Rifle Shooters Society

[6pt-sika]

I am new on this forum, is it too late to get in on the buy. My zip code is 11566
RoJoVin Long Island, NY

NRA Endowment Member.
SCI Life Member
Double Rifle Shooters Society


No , I do not believe it is to late , as a matter of fact we NEED one more person to finish I believe !

Send Singleshot a PM for the details [smilie=1:

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Sorry it has taken so long, I had some personal things to deal with (long story involving trespassers and the police), ANYWAY......

I don't want to wait any longer for someone else to join this buy. I'm going to close the buy next Sunday, May 18th. If we don't have 25 by then (we need one more), I'm just going to pay for the 25th mold myself. May resell it later. I really want to get this off to Lee, we've waited long enough, I'd like to shoot some of these boolits while I'm still relatively young lol.

So, if you want in on this buy, PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW.

Thanks

SSB

[OLPDon]

Singleshotbuff:
Such are the hazards of a Honcho, there is also one more thing we could do. May I put forth one more plain. If we each kick in the extra $ for the 25th mould and then put it up for auction after the moulds are recieved for the bennifit of the board. Just a thought what say you and All involved?
Don

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

This buy is closed, although a lot later than I wanted. I'm going to pay for the 25th mold myself so we can get this ball rolling. If anyone comes to this thread late, and is interested in the extra mold, please PM me.

I'll get this buy off to Lee within a week or so, then we can begin the wait. Not sure what the turn around is from Lee at present, but I'll be surprised if we get these molds this year.

I'll post periodic updates here.

Thanks to all who participated in this buy.

SSB

[OLPDon]

Gentlemen,

This buy is closed, although a lot later than I wanted. I'm going to pay for the 25th mold myself so we can get this ball rolling. If anyone comes to this thread late, and is interested in the extra mold, please PM me.

I'll get this buy off to Lee within a week or so, then we can begin the wait. Not sure what the turn around is from Lee at present, but I'll be surprised if we get these molds this year.

I'll post periodic updates here.

Thanks to all who participated in this buy.

SSB

Singleshotbuff:

Thanks for the Honcho and picking up the slack on this GB. No need to worry about how long it takes Lee, we all understand (I'm sure) of there poduction time. The quality of Lee's moulds has improved, better to wait for something shootable then to get less then usable mould.

Hope the invadors (trespasser) has worked out in your best intress at min. $$$$.
Again Thank's for the leg work. :drinks:

Don

[6pt-sika]

From what Ranch Dog tells me the wait now is closer to 7 months then 6 . So we should hopefully have this thing from the factory by January 1 [smilie=1:

[IcerUSA]

Just a bump , almost forgot about this one . :) (accually I did but don't tell anyone )

Keith

[jim4065]

'Nother bump - someday I'm gonna have lots of molds! :mrgreen:

[Bret4207]

Bump-da-bump!

[Marine Sgt 2111]

if there is an extra, I'd like to buy it. I now have a .32-40 and a need for this bullet...

thanks

[Newtire]

I am clearing off a spot in my Loverin storeroom!

[6pt-sika]

Any news on this one by chance ?

[bearcove]

If you have an extra mold let me know.

[C1PNR]

I was hoping the new post was the announcement they had arrived!:drinks:

[6pt-sika]

I was hoping the new post was the announcement they had arrived!:drinks:

I believe the order was sent about 6/1/08 so it's been almost 6 and a half months ! I would "assume" they would be here by february 15th perhaps .

I think the last time I taked with Ranch Dog about Lee's backlog he said plan on 7 months .

[Bret4207]

ASSUME theyll be here by Feb 15th!!!! HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAHHHAHAAAAHHAHHAAHHAHHA!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/15, 3/15, 4/15.........sigh. Patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue, patience is a .....

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

I am afraid I have really bad news. On friday, 2/27/09, I called Lee to check the status of this buy. The lady who answered the phone told me that she couldn't locate the paperwork and that she would have the lady who handles these buys (Mary), call me back after she returned from lunch. An hour or so goes by, no call, so I called back and was told that Mary was still out and would call me as soon as she returned. Mary never called me on friday.

So today (monday 3/2/09), I called Lee again. After a bit of shuffling, I was put on the phone with Mary. She and I were on the phone for the better part of a half hour while she checked various folders and places and computers looking for my order.

To make a long (and very infuriating) story shorter, Lee apparently has no record of my order for this group buy. Apparently they either never recieved it (I sent it priority mail) or it was lost after it was in their hands. Judging from my talk with Mary, either is possible. The bottom line is they do not have the order and the molds are not in line to be cut.

After I got off the phone with Lee, I called the post office (I used postal money orders for payment) and learned that the money orders have not been cashed.

I asked Mary if I resubmitted the buy now, what the turn arund time would be, considering the circumstance. She told me 11-13 months.

So there it is gentlemen, the molds are not coming.

I feel terrible about this. I should have followed up with Lee much sooner. I just didn't bother in light of the length of time that I knew other GBs had taken. I make no excuses however, the blame lies with me and I ask each of you to accept my apology for screwing this up.

I think the best course of action is for me to just refund everyones payment. Then if someone wants to rerun this buy we can entertain that idea.

I will leave this as a sticky for a day or two, then I'll start PMing individual members if I haven't heard from them. As you read this, please PM and verify that your amiling address has not changed and I'll get a refund to you ASAP. Please understand that this will take me a little time to get everyones refund to them, I'll have to mail a few out each day as I hear from each member.

Again, please understand how terrible I feel about this whole debacle. It is my fault alone and I ask each of you individually to accept my sincerest apology.

SSB

[felix]

Why not just switch vendors? ... felix

[Marine Sgt 2111]

Gents,
It seems that not only does one have to put up with 11-13 months of waiting time but when you honcho a buy you must make sure the money orders are cashed.

Does one also need to do the "wiping" for the management of Lee also?

Words can not express when it comes to "leementing"

[jim4065]

Enough - I'll take the refund. I'm going to stay out of future Lee group buys - at least until the lead time drops to less than a month.

[Bret4207]

I'll check with Dan, but I think we'll take the refund for our 2.

[Newtire]

Why not just switch vendors? ... felix

With the lead time stretching out so far, I would pay the extra for a different vendor here also. Over a year is getting to be a little crazy. I like the moulds and all but by the time I get one, I'll have lost interest in that rifle maybe.

[C1PNR]

IMHO, Lee is out as a vendor for this one.

It does sound as though the mailing to them was lost by USPS, so not really the fault of Lee, but 12 or more months additional waiting for them to perform is not in the cards for me. Besides, I'm not sure I trust them to get the Loverin design done properly anyway.

However, I ordered this mould because I want that design. Both for the 8mm and, maybe, the .32 Special.

What are the chances of an NEI Aluminum in 4 C, or maybe a brass 3 C from OWBM, or other vendor?

[West Creek]

Dont sweat the BS you get from Lee. There is no excuse for their Loooong lead times except that I'm guessing they only work on them in their spare time and just really don't care about the service except to fill in dead time on the production line.

I'll take the refund and let this one go.

West Creek

[Bret4207]

Well, Dan wants it and the money is already spent, so if the design is still going we'll wait.

[singleshotbuff]

Bret and all,

I have already begun refunding money, so I am calling this buy dead. Sorry, but I am so busy with work that I don't need the headache of redoing this group buy.

Please drop me a PM to confirm your address (and Dans) and I'll get a refund to you.

Right now I am refunding out of my own pocket as the p.o. is still "investigating" the missing money orders and has not refunded my money yet, but I will get refunds mailed out in a timely fashion.

Thanks guys and sorry again.

SSB

[Newtire]

Right now I am refunding out of my own pocket as the p.o. is still "investigating" the missing money orders and has not refunded my money yet, but I will get refunds mailed out in a timely fashion.

Thanks guys and sorry again.

SSB

Hey SSB,

As far as I'm concerned, just hold off on refunding me until the P.O. gets you your money back. Not your fault in the first place.

[C1PNR]

+ 1 on holding off on refunds until you get yours back from USPS.

Anyone else thinking of running a GB of this drawing?:coffee:

[castalott]

Singleshotbuff.....

Please don't refund my money until you get your money back. I don't blame you for any of this and instead say 'thank you' for trying hard to do the right thing.

Dale

[6pt-sika]

PM sent with my contact info !

Also I have no problem with you waiting on the refunds until you have the funds back in your hands !

[SwedeNelson]

SSB

I can hold also on a refund.
This would be the biggest fear with running a group buy.
Every thing has a way of working out -one way or another.

Swede Nelson

[West Creek]

PM Sent

BTW - dont worry about the refund until the PO ponies up. They screwed up not you.

[Bret4207]

PM sent, same message as the others, hold off on the refund till the PO comes through.

[mag44uk]

Same as all above. No problem with waiting.
Tony

[jim4065]

My contact information hasn't changed. Are you thinking of another (different) supplier?

[6pt-sika]

How goes it with the post office ?

I am sure they are not the most helpfull in situations like this [smilie=1:

[jim4065]

Has anyone received their refund?

[timcornish]

Well, when I joined I thought I might just get the mold in time to die - I had just been operated on for a virulent sarcoma with a 75%chance of dying in a year - now I have a much better chance so I guess its good luck - I want that mold!!!

[timcornish]

My address is the same if a refund is in order

[jim4065]

You know - the last time "singleshotbuff" posted here was over a month ago. I sent him a PM a week ago asking for an explanation - with no response. Kinda easy to shine people on when you owe 'em money...............

If I'm wrong - sorry. But then again, I know that he's been in the "chat room" at least once in the intervening 5 weeks. Does anyone know how to reach him?

[45nut]

I'll do what I can to have him update you all,, I do not see him as "shining you on".
He has had internet problems I know for a fact.

[singleshotbuff]

sorry gents, my modem (cellular) died. i ordered a replacement, but it wont be here until weds or so. as of right now, my only internet access is on my cell phone, which is a pita. jim, sorry i havent replied to your pm, my cell phone wont let me. dont worry, your refund is the first to be mailed. dont want you getting the wrong idea. the delay is due to buying a modem for $180.00. everyone else, thanks for your patience, i still havent seen a dime fron usps and all refunds are out of my pocket right now. sorry for the bad spelling and punctuation, typing on a phone sucks. ill contact everyone when i get back online, SSB

[6pt-sika]

ARe you back online and have you heard from the Post Office ?

[singleshotbuff]

gents,

just a quick update, as typing on my phone is a pita.
still using my cell phone to check the board, still not back online with the computer. i recieved the modem and it was the wrong one, not sure if it was my screw up or theirs but they're sending a replacement. should have it this week. as soon as it's up and running, i will contact people about this mess, not able to reply to private messages with my phone for some reason. sorry for the delay, just wanted to keep everyone in the loop as best as i can until i get my modem squared away.

ssb

[singleshotbuff]

Ok gentlemen,

My modem issues are resolved and I'm back online (it actually turned into a nightmare that required tech support to work on my computer and new modem together).

As of today (5/14), I'm still getting the run around from USPS on my refund, so I'm continuing to refund $$ out of my own pocket. The next group of refunds that I can swing right now will go out monday or tuesday. I'll get to everyone as quick as I can.

Thanks to everyone who has been so understanding by waiting for their money during this mess. I feel so bad about all this and I want to get things cleared up as soon as possible.

SSB

[Fast Asleep]

Singleshotbuff:

If this GB is still open, please include one for me.

Fast Asleep
89446

[CENTEX BILL]

This bullet is a good idea and still would like to have a mold. It looks like the group buy with Lee has been snake bit from the start. Also there are some recent post about the lack of quality from Lee that give me some concern.

ALTERNATIVE IDEA.

Since MiHec is making molds of high quality and good dleivery, so we give him this drawing and see what he could do in 2 cavity or 6 cavity mold. What do you think.

Centex Bill

[Newtire]

Any word from the Post Office?

[45 2.1]

This bullet is a good idea and still would like to have a mold. It looks like the group buy with Lee has been snake bit from the start. Also there are some recent post about the lack of quality from Lee that give me some concern.

ALTERNATIVE IDEA.

Since MiHec is making molds of high quality and good dleivery, so we give him this drawing and see what he could do in 2 cavity or 6 cavity mold. What do you think.

Centex Bill

SwedeNelson is another possibility also, and probably faster at this point. A drawing could be sent to either easily.

[6pt-sika]

If the PO ever gives Singleshot his funds back I'd just as soon forget about this mold !

Think I'll put all my efforts into my 444's and flinters :drinks:

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Just a quick update. Still nothing from the p.o., I check with the postmaster every week, last I was told is that it is still "under investigation". I am continuing to issue refunds out of my pocket each week, as funds allow.

Thanks for your patience and understanding, I'll keep everyone posted.

SSB

[C1PNR]

As I mentioned some time ago, I ordered this mould because I want this boolit design! And I'm not at all in favor of Lee as the supplier!

So, I guess it's time for someone to step up and take on the Honcho chore and select a new vendor, be it MiHec, SwedeNelson, OWBM, or whomever.

Any ideas who?

[Nrut]

Sounds good to me C1PNR..:drinks:

I didn't put in on the original buy but if any of the above venders cut the mold in the drawing I would be interested...:)

[CENTEX BILL]

Listen guys:

Can we contact Mihec or Swede Nelson about taking over making this bullet. Are enough people still interest to make it go.

let's hear what you think.

Centex Bill

[6pt-sika]

Listen guys:

Can we contact Mihec or Swede Nelson about taking over making this bullet. Are enough people still interest to make it go.

let's hear what you think.

Centex Bill

I would prefer just to get my money back !

[CENTEX BILL]

60t-sika

I, too want my money back and I am sure that Singleshot Buff will make good on his word.

Since both Mihec and Swede Nelson operate their group buys differently, I seen no harm in pursueing the issue with.

How do others feel?

[Nrut]

Bill....Count me in for a Swede Nelson, OWBM or Mihec cut mold...:D

[6pt-sika]

60t-sika

I, too want my money back and I am sure that Singleshot Buff will make good on his word.



I have no doubt he will and my answer was not directed at him !

My answer means I do not have an intrest in this mold any longer therefore do not wish to be apart of any further try at making this mold .

[C1PNR]

I was in contact recently with Charlie. He, too, wants nothing to do with this project, and I don't blame him one bit.

But that doesn't change the fact that I DO want this design. So, how many want to go with it?

Lee is out as far as I'm concerned, and Mihec is buried with other designs, so lets try Swede and see what his time line looks like. Then we can start looking for obligations to produce it.

Actually, I think we should start a new thread as this one has a lot of negative connotations.

45 2.1 are you still with us with the drawing?

[Buckshot]

................Since this thread is no longer a legitimate Group Buy, it is being "Unstuck", as only active Group Buys soliciting subscribers are supposed to be "Stuck".

The Honcho, singleshotbuff has agreed to make timely posts to keep the thread from slipping off the page. Un-sticking this thread in no way is to be construed as reflecting negatively on singleshotbuff. The action is being taken simply because it no longer qualifies as a GB.

...............Buckshot

[6pt-sika]

!!!!!

[CENTEX BILL]

Singleshotfuff:

Sent you a private message about this mold.


Centex Bill

[6pt-sika]

*****************

[6pt-sika]

:castmine:
:castmine:
:castmine:

[jim4065]

Got my rebate today. Thanks Shawn.

[6pt-sika]

Any word from the post office ?

[singleshotbuff]

Just a quick post to bump this thread up, it's sliding off the page quicker now.

Still no refund from the p.o., despite 2 face to face encounters with the postmaster and a letter to the postmaster.

I'm still issuing refunds out of my own pocket, I try to send out a couple every week or ten days. Thanks to everyone who has waited patiently for their $$, I'm working on it as quick as I can.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

It's sliding off because the "sticky" thing on this forum gets out of hand IMHO !

When you have folks making multiple group buys they should consolidate their group buys to one thread and it would eliminate alot of the congestion [smilie=1:

[Boomer Mikey]

I don't remember if I'm in this one... if I am, forget about a refund... if I needed the money I wouldn't have purchased the mold and I don't see you as being responsible for paying for it.

Boomer :Fire:

[6pt-sika]

I don't remember if I'm in this one... if I am, forget about a refund... if I needed the money I wouldn't have purchased the mold.

Boomer :Fire:

Well I would still like my money back at some point [smilie=1:

[C1PNR]

Maybe when this thing is ALL behind us, we can start to think about a different Machinist to supply this really nice design.:-o

[6pt-sika]

[smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[C1PNR]

Mihec is up to his ears in group buys right now. I know I'm waiting on at least two of them to get off the ground.

So I wonder if Swede Nelson would be willing to put this one on his list of "projects" to work out?

I don't remember what the minimum is, but I'd bet we could syndicate this one in a month or so, or maybe a little longer.

It's not like I have a bottomless pocketbook now that the messiah is in charge, but I really do like the design and think this would work well in both the 8mm and, sized a bit more, in the .32 Winchester Special.

What do you say Swede?

[SwedeNelson]

Would be happy to run it.
Get together a drawing and a honcho and we will get it going.

If no wants to honcho it - let me now and I will find some one or
do it my self.

We can get a drawing together too if needs be.
Something to look at.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/picture.php?albumid=145&pictureid=1079


Swede Nelson

[CENTEX BILL]

I will be in for a 4 cavity mold.

Centex Bill

[CENTEX BILL]

Guys:

Should we start a new thread to see if there might be enough interest to have
Swede Nelson do this mold?

Since we had 25 molds, before maybe we still could get 15 mold for Swede's minimun.


What do you guys think????

Centex Bill

[6pt-sika]

I think a new thread for the "new" buy would be better !

I don't want one now !

Just my money back .

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

An update. I recieved a letter friday from the p.o. stating that this matter had been handed off to the fraud department, but with no explanation as to why. By the time I got home, the p.o. was closed so I couldn't call them, and I worked all day yesterday. I'm going in there with the letter monday, and I'm going to forward a copy to my state representative and see if he can help at all.

In the mean time, I'm still sending out refunds as I can as I get paid from jobs (I'm a self employed remodeler).

I sent a couple of PMs this week to guys for address verification, for the refunds I'm sending next, and I haven't heard back yet. So, please check your PMs guys and get back to me.

Thanks

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Recieved your PM and replied !

Thanks !

[6pt-sika]

:castmine:

[6pt-sika]

Single Shot , whats the latest with your battle with the Post Office ?

[6pt-sika]

???????????????????????????????????

[6pt-sika]

???????????????????

[singleshotbuff]

Update.

Still fighting with the p.o. and issuing refunds out of pocket. It's been a little tough lately to send out many, both my trucks had to go into the shop lol.

Sorry I haven't updated for a while, the hard drive in my laptop committed suicide, I'm still recovering data.

If I missed any PMs, please resend.

Thanks

SSB

[Buckshot]

............I know you didn't lose the mail, and you're involved with a fight with the post office over recovery. The fact that you're paying reimbursement out of your pocket shows you're a genuine responsible person, and they're few and far between these days.

Would it be possible for you to list the zips of those still waiting? It would probably be VERY helpfull.

..............Buckshot

[6pt-sika]

............Would it be possible for you to list the zips of those still waiting? It would probably be VERY helpfull.

..............Buckshot

Intresting idea :bigsmyl2:

[Newtire]

95006 here

[6pt-sika]

22960

[C1PNR]

83706

But I'm not in a real big hurry. "Stuff" happens, even to the best of us and I know we'll be taken care of by our Honcho.

BUT, I'd like to get the design built - probably by NOE. We've talked about it and he has a 140 gr design for those interested.

[SwedeNelson]

C1PNR

Starting a buy for it today.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=61972

Thanks
Swede Nelson

[Buckshot]

PLEASE ...................NO MORE POSTING TO THIS THREAD UNLESS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL GROUP BUY, done by singleshotbuff.

NOE HAS STARTED AN ACTIVE GB FOR THIS DESIGN. SEE ADDRESS IN ABOVE POST


AGAIN< DO NOT POST> TO THIS THREAD UNLESS IT IS ABOUT THE singleshotbuff GROUP BUY

[Bret4207]

13642- 2 moulds

[CENTEX BILL]

78132

Centex Bill

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Sorry for the delay since the last update, things have been rough around here the last couple weeks.

Paying these refunds out of pocket has been a strain on me, since I am self employed and work is not gaurenteed, so I spoke with an attorney about this matter. He is going to write a letter for me, and send it to the postmaster demanding immediate action. I had to pay him an hours work for that, but I felt it was worth it to try to get something resolved here, as I am left looking bad here due the post offices screw up. The assistant to the attorney said the letter should go out friday or monday.

I haven't sent out any refunds for a couple weeks, partly due to paying this attorney. I am sending out 1 or 2 on weds.

Please do list your zip code if I have not contacted you via PM, I want to make sure my records are accurate too. I especially appreciate those who have PMed me telling me that they were in no hurry, it has helped tremendously.

I will update again as soon as I get a response from the attorney letter.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

[smilie=1:

[Newtire]

95006

Thanks SShot!

[45nut]

Moved thread to the "closed" area and re-titled to reflect status,, should be much easier to track.

[singleshotbuff]

Gentlemen,

Here is a list of the refunds (zip codes) that have been sent/

63026 (2)
44614
72034

I just finished a job today, I will bill the contractor tomorrow and as soon as I'm paid I'll send another refund, probably two.

I also recieved a voicemail today while I was working from the attorneys secretary. They need me to stop by their office tomorrow for something. She didn't say what. So, maybe I'll have some good news tomorrow. I'll keep everyone posted.

SSB

[mag44uk]

Also RG6 7LE here in the UK.
Was $80.
No panic on my behalf.
Will probably get in on another NOE mould so may be easier to send my refund to Al!
Tony

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

I went to the attorney yesterday, hoping for good news. I had to fill out an affidavit, telling what happened and have it notorized. The legal assistant didn't know what the attorney needed it for, she said she'd have him call me.

Just wanted to let you guys know where we're at on this.

SSB

[jim4065]

Just curious as to whether anyone else has ever had to claim a refund on a USPS Money Order?

If SSB is having a typical experience then it makes you wonder why anyone would buy the damn things? I always paid Lee with a personal check - knowing that there was certainly time for them to cash it, and that the canceled check would be an acknowledgment that they had the order.

However, most of the dealers on AuctionArms and GunBroker strongly prefer a USPS Money Order. If this is typical of the "refund policy" of the USPS, then I'm sure not going to buy 'em any more..............

[6pt-sika]

However, most of the dealers on AuctionArms and GunBroker strongly prefer a USPS Money Order. If this is typical of the "refund policy" of the USPS, then I'm sure not going to buy 'em any more..............

A gunsmith buddy and I do a combined sales buisness on Gunbroker . And as you say , if they don't send me a Money Order or a Bankdraft from a major US bank they ain't getting what they bid on .

I will tell you this , it has gotten so bad with folks making false MO's and Certified Checks that my bank usually puts a hold on funds from these sources for 5 days after deposit .

I sent a guy in Florida a couple weeks ago a bankdraft from Banl of America and he sat on the check for 7 days even though it was certified . I typically send out the item the day I recieve the funds or the next buisness day that UPS is running and I have yet to be bit in the butt .

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Sorry I haven't updated in a few days, I been a bit under the weather with the flu.

I got paid from a job thursday, so 2 refunds will go out tuesday. Please PM me when you get them.

I haven't heard from the attorney since I went to his office, so I'll give him a ring tomorrow or tuesday.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

And the attorny said ?

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Sorry I haven't updated lately, I just spent a few days in the hospital. I got dehydrated from the flu, it sucked.

I spoke with the attorney this morning. He told me that he has talked to someone at the p.o. fraud dept and that my refund is 'in process". Great news. He didn't have a time frame, but at least there's now some action.

Since I don't know how long "in process" will take, I'm still going to send refunds out of my pocket until I get my $$.

I have a small job to start monday (if I get to feeling better) so I'll be able to send at least one refund early next week.

ssb

[singleshotbuff]

Not much to update, but wanted to post something.

I recieved a letter saturday from the p.o., telling me what the attorney already told me about the refund being in process.

Didn't work at all this week, I still feel like doo doo from this flu. Going to try to work tuesday, as I'm feeling better everyday. I'll post the zip codes of any refunds I get to send out this week.

SSB

[Blammer]

My "in process" with the PO for a claim took about one month, so cheer up, that light at the end may not be a train!

[singleshotbuff]

Thanks DJ,

I hope the light isn't a locomotive barreling towards me lol.

Still nothing in the mail yet. I got paid from a small job today so I'm sending out a refund tomorrow.

I'll post the zip code when this refund is the mail.

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Nothing to update yet, unfortunately, still waiting and getting frustrated.

Thanks to all for their patience, hope this is resolved soon, I'm losing sleep over it now.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Wow I didn't realize until just now but this whole thing has been going on for two YEARS after Jan 1 !

Well I say 2 years as thats when the group buy started !

[Newtire]

Wow I didn't realize until just now but this whole thing has been going on for two YEARS after Jan 1 !

Well I say 2 years as thats when the group buy started !
Yup,
I finally broke down and ordered a mould from the Swede buy going on.
Keep hearing about seeing zip codes posted but never mine.

[6pt-sika]

:violin::veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu:violin:

[Newtire]

:violin::veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu:violin:
What? No Colt or Winchester?

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Sorry I haven't updated lately, there has been nothing to report, which is getting so frustrating. This has gotten to the point that it's weighing on my mind all the time, so I have made a decision.

Work has been so slow for me lately that I haven't had the $$ to issue any more refunds, and I still haven't recieved anything from USPS (I check with them weekly), so on friday morning I have an appointment with my bank. I'm going to see about getting a loan against my business so that I can clear this up. It will depend on the interest rate, since I have no real idea when I'm going to stop being jerked around by USPS and get my own money back.

I'll let everyone know when/if I'm able to get the loan.

Sorry.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Well no news in almost 2 weeks !

Whats the latest on this :takinWiz:

[Newtire]

My ex works for the postal service and over the holidays, I am going to see if I can check with her on what the policy is for refunding. Maybe the folks there at that PO don't know what they are talking about.

[6pt-sika]

No word in the last 16 days !

Granted it's Christmas .

But .............................:veryconfu

[6pt-sika]

Well it's been 3 WEEKS since our last update [smilie=b:

[singleshotbuff]

Sorry gents for the lack of a recent update, but I FINALLY have some resolution to this mess.

I've been working out of town (thus no computer access for updates) on a fire restoration job that I'm subbing for a contractor friend of mine. I didn't work today because we're getting hammered by snow here, but the job will be finished in 2 days (weather permitting), then I can submit the invoice to the insurance company and get paid about $7,000. As soon as I recieve that check, EVERYONE will get their refund in full. By that time I may also get something from the p.o., but either way this thing will FINALLY be done within the next 2 or 3 weeks.

I once again apologize for all this mess and I want to sincerely thank ALL OF YOU for being patient with me. This has been a very rough time for me with this hanging over my head. I hate to owe people money, especially people that I consider friends.

I'll let everyone know when I get the check from the insurance company, then it'll take me a few days to get all the money orders and envelopes ready.

SSB

[Duckhunter]

I have experienced problems with the Postal Service before. The last time it happened, I contacted my Congressman. An offical Congressional inquiry will usually get a fire started under someone. Good luck with your post office problems.

[6pt-sika]

Sorry gents for the lack of a recent update, but I FINALLY have some resolution to this mess.

By that time I may also get something from the p.o., but either way this thing will FINALLY be done within the next 2 or 3 weeks.




We are at 2 weeks from this post so in the next 5 to 7 days we should hear from you then ?

[Newtire]

Would like to have the address of this post office and more details. My ex-wife works for the Postal Service and says she can't understand what is wrong if you have a receipt for the money order. Maybe we could find out some real useful info here on this end-or not.? Not getting anywhere this way.

[6pt-sika]

Well its 23 days after the last post when we were told it would be 2-3 weeks and we could "expect our returns" :?

[6pt-sika]

Sorry gents for the lack of a recent update, but I FINALLY have some resolution to this mess.

I've been working out of town (thus no computer access for updates) on a fire restoration job that I'm subbing for a contractor friend of mine. I didn't work today because we're getting hammered by snow here, but the job will be finished in 2 days (weather permitting), then I can submit the invoice to the insurance company and get paid about $7,000. As soon as I recieve that check, EVERYONE will get their refund in full. By that time I may also get something from the p.o., but either way this thing will FINALLY be done within the next 2 or 3 weeks.

I once again apologize for all this mess and I want to sincerely thank ALL OF YOU for being patient with me. This has been a very rough time for me with this hanging over my head. I hate to owe people money, especially people that I consider friends.

I'll let everyone know when I get the check from the insurance company, then it'll take me a few days to get all the money orders and envelopes ready.

SSB

This was posted January 5th of this year !

It is now January 31st of this year and we have not heard from you and I just looked at your profile page and it shows you last logged in the day you made this post !

So , WHATS UP WITH THIS ??????????????????

[singleshotbuff]

GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!!! The wait is over. I recieved a full refund from USPS in my mail today, along with a personal letter of apology from the local postmaster.

I just deposited the check in my bank and will start sending out the remaining refunds immediately.

It'll take me a week or so to get to everyone, as I want to verify addresses as I go, so bear with me for another week or so.

Thanks to everyone for your patience. I'm so glad to finally get this resolved.

SSB

[Blammer]

SWEET! I am so happy for you! I'll bet it is a tremendous relief!

and a heck of a way to start a savings account... :)

[singleshotbuff]

Some refunds went out this week, to people I had verified addresses. More will go out on monday.

Almost there guys. Finally.

SSB

[6pt-sika]

Might you post the zipcodes of those being sent each time you send some ?

[singleshotbuff]

6pt,

I plan to do that, I've just been outta internet for about a week (heavy snow damaged my dish and it's being replaced tomorrow).

I've recieved PMs from some people confirming their address and I'm getting these sent out as I get in touch with people.

I've got a few PMs to answer today, and more refunds will go out tomorrow.

Thanks gents

[singleshotbuff]

More refunds are going out today. I'll get a list together of zip codes as soon as I get my regular internet back (I'm using my cell phone to access the net right now).

SSB

[6pt-sika]

I am happy to say I recieved full refund in the form of a Postal Money Order today !

[Newtire]

I got my refund today for the mould in form of postal money order. Thanks SS.

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Although I'm slow in posting updates (still using my phone for web access) I'm continuing to contact people, verify addresses and send refunds. As soon as my regular internet is back up and running, I'll get a zip code list up.

thanks to everyone who has posted here and PMed me letting me know that the recieved their refunds.

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

I'm still in process of sending refunds, I still have no internet access at home, so updates are still slow (I hope to have my internet issue fixed soon). Please remember to PM me when you get your refund so I can check you off my list.

Thanks

SSB

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

Sorry for no recent update, I hd to go out of town for a job the last two weeks, it was short notice and I had no internet access.

I'll PM those who PMed me while I was gone today, and PM some others for addresses today and tomorrow so I can get this finished up.

Thanks

SSB

[Bret4207]

Singleshotbuff- Your PM box is full

Had 2 ordered- zip 13642

[Bret4207]

PM box still full.

[singleshotbuff]

Sorry guys about the PM box. I'm working outta town during the week right now on a big sub contract job. I just got home last night and I'm heading back this evening, but I'm taking 2 refunds to the p.o. on my way.

I'll try to get my PMs cleared out before I leave, so anybody who sent me a message recently, please resend it maybe tomorrow.

Thanks

SSB

[Bret4207]

Okay, this is garbage. The PM box is still full. I'm a very patient man, but step up to the plate and set things right. You owe me for 2 moulds. Clear your PM box, would you?

[castalott]

Don't forget me....1 mold...62899

thanks,Dale

[C1PNR]

Don't forget me....1 mold...62899

thanks,Dale
Yeah, don't forget me either! 83706

[mag44uk]

Or me.
One mould RG6 7LE
Tony

[castalott]

I'm starting to have evil thoughts about this......

[West Creek]

Dont forget me!

46410

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

I haven't forgotten anyone, I have back up copies of everyone's orginal information.

I am getting refunds to people as thet verify that their address is still the same

I'm sorry that it's taking a while, as I've stated before, I'm currently working out of town (self employed and have to make hay while the sun is shining) and am only home 1 night every week or 2. When I'm home, I'm taking refunds to the p.o. on my way back out of town.

Sorry my PM box is still full, I went through some and replied when I was home last, but apparently I didn't delete them. I'll work through some PMs tonight, I'm heading back out of town tomorrow morning, but refunds are going to the p.o. with me.

Thanks

SSB

[Bret4207]

What a bunch of garbage! PM BOX STILL FULL!!!

Anyone else interested in contacting the proper authorities to look into MAIL FRAUD CHARGES???

[singleshotbuff]

Gents,

For some reason, my PMs will not delete. I have no idea why, I've tried twice, when I log back in they're still there. CAN A MODERATOR HELP ME HERE? I'll try again tonight.

Brett, I understand your frustration, but I AM sending these refunds when I'm home from work. I only make it home about every 10 days, just enough time to do laundry and resupplly before I head back to the job site. Please bear with me, I hate working so far from home, but I have to make the money while I can. If your addy is still unchanged, I'll send your refund on my next trip to the p.o.. If I don't have my PMs figured out, let me know here that your addy is still the same. I do have a couple of others that have confirmed their addresses and I'm making their refunds tonight.

Again gents, i'm so sorry for all of this, I never wanted all this trouble when I agreed to honcho this buy. Everything bad that can happen has happened and I'm sick about it, but I'm resolving this mess as I can.

SSB

[Bret4207]

Pm finally sent successfully. Sorry for being short but we've all been extremely patient. In fact, I'd say we've been unusually patient to the point of absurdity.

[jim4065]

Amazing. I wish that I had a tenth of the patience shown here. Just think - ALL of this could have been avoided if the Honcho had used a personal check instead of a Postal Money Order to pay for the order. There should be a "Tips for New Honchos" section which stresses this point (along with some others). This scenario has occurred before and will probably happen again if no one takes steps to educate new honchos. It's also apparent that Lee should have the basic common sense to acknowledge orders when placed, particularly orders with lead times over a month. :coffeecom