Lyman 462560 Mold - Any Interest?

[John Boy]

I was speaking with Lou Sellman, Lyman Distributor, today. He is the gentleman who got us the 45-75 mold.

Asked him if he could convince Lyman to re-introduce other molds? "Yes, if there is enough interest and Lyman agrees."

Some folks showed an interest in the Lyman 462560 ... so, how many? I'll then pass the info on to Lou to see what he make happen

[rugerman1]

Lyman 462560 :drinks:
Gotta drop at .461+ with WW's though

[dromia]

I'd be up for one.

I'd also like to see the 470216 amongst a host of others. :-D

[94Doug]

You betcha!

Doug

[hollow-point]

yes thank you. also 311440.

[MT Gianni]

3589 or 358009 is another that commands a lot of interest. Even redesigned for the 9.3 if the lube grooves were deep enough to resize to 0.360 it would be a winner. Gianni.

[45 2.1]

Maybe these would interest someone: First one is the 462560 and the second one is a modified 311440.

[94Doug]

I agree, the 311440 would interest me as well.

Doug

[Nazgul]

Put me down for one.

[jtaylor1960]

I like the 311440 also. In say an NEI iron 2 cavity. I have a 308 Marlin Express that needs a cast bullet.

[Frank46]

I gotta agree with rugerman .461+ with wheel weights. Great for my #1 in 45-70
Frank

[wiljen]

I'm interested in the 560 and I'd like to add the 311331 to the list of things I'd love to see brought back. Gotta be the ultimate bore riding 30.

[hicard]

311440 would be interesting to me. The 462560 is too much of a good thing for my shoulders.

[94Doug]

So, How about a Lee 6 Cavity 311440?

Doug

[snowtigger]

I have a 462560, but would be interested in a multi-cavity version of same. The 311440 looks interesting, if it drops at .315 or larger.

[Lloyd Smale]

id be in for one of the 460s

[buffalohunter]

What would the weight be for the 462560 mold, have a 45-70 encore barrel I want to cast for.

I will take one of the 462560 molds if they are ordered. THANKS

[Buffalo Classic]

Have Lyman throw in a 462560 mold for me... I'd love to have one new.

Shoulder transplant Hmmm...

[6pt-sika]

I'm intrested in most any obsolete Lyman/Ideal moulds that will work in a cartridge I load for !!!!

Would really like to see some 150 grain GC mould for the 32 Special and 32-40 !!!!!

[John Boy]

Gents, when the 'Interest' number gets up to 25, I'll pass the info onto the Lyman Distributor.

When we were exploring with Lou, for the re-introduction of the 457192 ... 25 was the magic number

[94Doug]

Just 5 more.... that seems like a small number.

d

[johnch]

I would take 1

John

[CATNIP-45]

I would go for 1

[HollandNut]

I'm in too ...:drinks:

According to the poll after I voted , only one more .. Come on someone ..

[olddudeone]

Ill take one olddudeone

[JSnover]

I'd be interested in the 462560.

[John Boy]

OK Gents - Stay Tuned!

From: John Corney [mailto:corneyj@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:31 PM
To: Lou Sellman (customcastbullets@yahoo.com)
Cc: John Kort(w30wcf@adelphia.net)
Subject: Lou, Have 27 Plus Casters Interested in the Old Ideal 462560 Mold


http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=23279

Hi Lou:
The are 27+ casters on CastBoolits forum that are interested purchasing the old Ideal 462560 mold. Is there a possibility contacting Lyman to determine if they would re-introduce this mold as a special run for you?
Regards
John Corney

[John Boy]

Reply for Lou Sellman about the 462560 mold ...

HI JOHN I WAS TOLD YOU WOULD BE CONTACTING ME. I WILL TALK TO LYMAN NEXT WEEK THEY ARE RETRUNING FROM THE SHOT SHOW THURSDAY SO I GIVE THEM A DAY TO CLEAR THEIR HEADS. I HAVE INTENTIONS OF DOING MORE OF THESE IF I CAN GET THE AGREEMENT FROM LYMAN THAT I WANT. I WILL BE BACK TO YOU WHEN THEY REPLY. THANKS LOU

[snowtigger]

Anything??

[hicard]

Please ask about the 311440 also.

[John Boy]

Gentlemen: Lou Sellman, the Lyman Distributor has been in touch with Lyman's Mold Maker. He is looking for the 462560 mold cherry and if they still have it (good probability) will make a mold to check it for specifications. Then Lyman Management will make a Go - No Go Decision.

Lou has a positive feeling that the 462560 mold will be re-introduced by Lyman. Cross your fingers.

If the answer is a GO, then I will obtain the mold price and shipping cost from Lou. I will contact each person on the Poll that indicated interest for their real name - mailing information and email address. Included when I make the contact with each will be Lou's address to send the payment and any NLT date for him to receive funds.

When John Kort (44wcf) and I put the order together for the reintroduced 45-75 mold, this process worked well - so why change.

I know that there have been 1'sy - 2'sy requests for other different molds. Not enough (min 25) to make them known to Lou which is his minimum order number. Might want to contact him directly after this order is finalized.

[686]

do you have a picture of this mold? is it singhe or double? what weight? thanks

[94Doug]

Check out castpics. 545 grain, Flat point, Gas Check. I believe that it was strictly a single cav design due to the size of the boolit.

d

[John Boy]

do you have a picture of this mold? is it singhe or double? what weight? thanks

686: Do I have a picture of the mold? NO and Doug's post has the facts. Scroll back to the beginning of the thread and see the picture of the bullet posted by 45 2.1

[softpoint]

I'd second the motion for a 358009,3589, I have 3 rifles that need one

[John Boy]

... no update yet from Lou Sellman and the results of his communications with Lyman

[CATNIP-45]

Sorry gy's count me out: going with a Sacoe

[94Doug]

$152.49......another one sold on popular auction site. Sure hope this works out.

Doug

[gregg]

I'm interresed but need more information. I casted some of these with a friends mold
that were on the small side. Yes I know its suppost to be .462 and I wanted them to fit a
trapdoor so wanted them fat. They were like .457. I paper patched them :-(
Looks like they should be a (as Paco says flat face killer)

[gutshot_again]

I'd take one.

[snowtigger]

If anyone is interested, there is one on e-bay.LYMAN SINGLE CAVITY BULLET MOULD MOLD 462560 Item number: 150232588153 . The last one went kinda' high. though.

[Dogg]

Could be interested if it doesn't cost an arm or leg

[BustemAgain]

It will Cost at least that.

[Nardoo]

Yep, I am interested in a 462560. I think then I will have every 45 cal mould ever made. <Maybe.

Nardoo

[Dogg]

Is there any word yet on whether they will produce the mold? And maybe a ballpark type price? Pretty sure I want one.

[Dogg]

John Boy, any word on whether Lyman will re-introduce this boolit? After shooting some of them (Thanks Hollannut) I am sure I want one!:-D

[Lloyd Smale]

id have to change my answer. id still take one but only if its a 4 cavity mold. Lyman 2 cavity molds are no better then lee molds.

[Dogg]

Any word on whether this mold will be made? Has Lyman ever gotten back to anyone regarding this mold? Guess I am an impatient new caster. But I like this boolit. [smilie=f:

[John Boy]

Gents - The word is not good and looks like the mold is not to be had:

From: louis sellman [mailto:customcastbullets@yahoo.com]
Sent: 05/12/2008 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: Lou, Have 27 Plus Casters Interested in the Old Ideal 462560 Mold

hi john the 462560 cherry cant be found i can have it made but lyman wants two of them to strart with. that would be close to 600.00 not sure if i could sell enough to make this worth while.

I'll go back to Lou that there are now 34 Yes's and several 'cliff hangers"

[Dogg]

Is there a chance that another mold maker like Mountain or NEI would duplicate this boolit with regard to a group buy? Just curious, I don't know enough yet to speak intellegintly about molds or those who make them, but I sure do like the 462560 boolit and would really like to have a mold. Since they are selling so high on E-bay I can't believe there wouldn't actually be a market for them through Lyman, I think they are missing something here! :-?

[bearcove]

35 now

[John Boy]

The Group Buy is Dead for Now
Received an email from Lou yesterday:

Lyman requires that he pay for 2 cherries and his cash flow hurts now:
... eBay pulled his Store so he has to put out the money to put up a website to continue to seel his reloading supplies

... He bought a new trailer and while pulling it home - blew a transmission

So, it looks like the group purchase is off

[w30wcf]

John Boy,
I spoke with Lou last week. My feeling is that once he gets his store moved and his vehicle problems behind him, which could take the next three months or so, if there is still sufficient interest at that point, he would once again persue this project.

w30wcf

[goatboy_k]

just found this thread, i realize that this is on hold but if it gets going again, please count me in for one please

thanks
kurt

[94Doug]

Another Question, maybe it has been covered, but what does a Cherry cost him, and what if we split the cost on one of them 35 ways? I thought something like $600, which would be an extra 17 bucks.


Doug

[HollandNut]

I"m out , just found a 4 cav 462560 on ebay express , be here any day ..

[quasi]

Redding sells a similar type of bullet model, better quality also.

[jim4065]

Lees' quality seems to be improving. How about just run each mold as a Lee 6 cavity?

[wiljen]

Lees' quality seems to be improving. How about just run each mold as a Lee 6 cavity?

I don't think the lee 6 cavity block has enough depth to run the 462560. I think this was looked at before but could be wrong.

[redale1]

Count me in for a Lyman 460560 if it comes about now or later.

[frank505]

Fred Leeth will make a cherry for $50 dollars as long as he gets to keep it. He just made me a multi cavity 457125 and a 600 grain gas check 45 mold. The four cavity molds are $215 and will cast forever. His two cavity blocks are 150. Lots more than the six cavity garbage for money but a QUALITY IRON MOLD WILL LAST A LONG TIME. I just retired 457125 three cavity that has made an unbeilavable number of bullets, probably over a half a million.

[John Boy]

I got an e-mail from Lou Sellman today asking if there is still interest in a group buy for the old Ideal 452560 mold ... his problems are behind him and would go forward with adding it to his inventory of special order molds from Lyman

If there is, I'll put together a contact list (must be 25 or more) and send it to him. The latest poll showed 38 Yes's and some maybe's.

If there any more folks that did not vote on the Poll - please do so that I can get a current complete list.

[SPRINGFIELDM141972]

I'm afraid it is going to boil down to a cost issue for me. If this mould can be had for a reasonable cost then I would be in for a single cavity.

Regards,
Everett

[94Doug]

I'm still very in.


Doug

[John Boy]

I'm afraid it is going to boil down to a cost issue for me. If this mould can be had for a reasonable cost then I would be in for a single cavity.

Regards,
Everett

Evertt, last December, Lou Sellman did an Ideal 457192 (original 45-75 bullet) group buy for a bunch of us. The single cavity mold was $65, plus shipping

The way it works is: Lou contacts Lyman - they say Yes or No - Lou pays Lyman for the cost of the cherry (usually $600) - Lyman cuts the molds and Lou sells them

[gutshot_again]

Yes, I am still interested in this mould as well.

[Dogg]

If it is in the $65 range I am interested

[John Boy]

Dogg, I understand the price of the mold will be $75 plus shipping. Lyman jacked up the price for the purchase of the cherry!

[John Boy]

Gents - do me a favor. If you are interested in the 462560 mold ... vote at the poll. This way, I can give Lou Sellman an accurate count because the mold will be on a First Come basis when he puts in the order for the number of molds

I talked to him today and he is going to put in the order with Lyman ... ordering details to follow

[warf73]

I can't vote. Is the poll closed?

[John Boy]

Is the poll closed?
Warf - unless there is something I don't know about ... No, it is still open. What did it say that wouldn't allow you to vote?
Give it another try

[warf73]

Said I already voted but I never. Only reason I know I hadn't voted is because I haven't made any comments on the thread.
No biggy I'll buy one if there made.

[John Boy]

Gentlemen ... the group buy for the 462560 mold is a GO ... and here's the ordering details ... First Come Basis:

Send Lou Sellman an email with the following information:
Lou's email address ... customcastbullets@yahoo.com
Email Subject ... Purchase of 462560 Mold (or 457192 if you just want that mold) or Purchase of 462560 and 457192 (if you want both molds)

* Your Name
* Your USP Mailing Address
* What item(s) you want to buy

Then mail Lou a Check or Money Order in the amount listed below for your purchase(s) to the address listed below ...


Reply from Lou

HI JOHN,
I AM WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM LYMAN ABOUT THE EXPECTED DELIVERY DATE OF THE CHERRIES FOR THE 462560. I GAVE THEM THE ORDER TO GO AHEAD WITH IT.

I ALSO HAVE THEM SETTING UP THE 457192 RUN AGAIN. HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF THE FELLOWS WHO WANT IT AND SOME THOUGH I HAD THEM ON HAND. I DID HAVE TWO LEFT BUT THEY ARE GONE NOW.

IF THE FELLOWS WANT TO SEND IN ORDERS FOR EITHER OF THESE TWO, THIS WILL BE ON A FIRST COME BASIS. CHECK OR MONEY ORDER ONLY. I DONT DO THE CREDIT CARDS.

THE 462560 WILL BE $75.00 AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE TWO CHERRIES WILL RUN ME ABOUT 600.00 TO HAVE THEM MADE. BUT THE NICE PART OF THAT IS NO ONE ELSE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THEM.

THE 457192 WILL STILL BE $65.00

PA RESIDENTS 7% SALES TAX.

IF THEY WANT TOP PUNCHES $8.75 OR SIZEING DIES $19.50 I WILL INCLUDE THE SHIPPING WITH THE MOULD. SHIPPING WILL BE PRIORITY MAIL $10.00 TO USA.

MY ADDRESS IS:
LOUIS SELLMAN
2003 EWINGS MILL ROAD
CORAOPOLIS, PA 15108.

Enjoy the mold and happy shooting ... cause you are buying a piece of History!

Ideal 462560 (545gr GC)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/Meadowmucker/Misc/462560_545g.gif

Ideal 457192 (350gr)
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd220/Meadowmucker/Misc/457192_191g.gif

[goatboy_k]

just found this thread again?? i replied ealier saying that i was in for a mold. I send a email to the guy to verify but i havn't heard back yet ( only been one day ). Just wanted to make sure that this was still going on before i put a check in the mail?

thanks
kurt

[Nazgul]

He responded quickly to me and my check went in last week. Give him time, it is a holiday weekend.

Don

[Dogg]

Is there any word on when these molds will be made and sent out? Money was sent months ago but haven't heard anything back!

[Nazgul]

The group buys can take awhile. Getting everybody to pay, design, ordering, production and shipping is a lot of work. Some others were 6-8 months. Way too early to be expecting them.

[John Boy]

Dogg: I have been in touch with Lou Sellman and Lyman is known not to be speed demons. This is a custom mold and all are at the mercy of Lyman's time frame

Lou did a special order for a bunch of us - the 457192 (for 45-75). The time frame was August to January

For this bullet the process started in mid August - not even 2 1/2 months ago

[Dogg]

Thanks for the info, I haven't participated in a group buy so didn't know the time frames, didn't mean to offend anyone just curious as to the progress.
Thanks
Dogg

[John Boy]

Gentlemen ... the 462560 mold is a GO! The molds will be in next week


Cost of Mold ... $75.00
Shipping and Handling by Priority Mail ... $10.00
PA RESIDENTS 7% SALES TAX
IF YOU WANT TOP PUNCHES $8.75 OR SIZEING DIES $19.50. LOU WILL INCLUDE THE SHIPPING WITH THE MOULD

LOUIS SELLMAN
2003 EWINGS MILL ROAD
CORAOPOLIS, PA 15108.
customcastbullets@yahoo.com

Send Lou an email with your mailing address and put a check or money order in an envelope and send it to him

Good Shooting!

[goatboy_k]

how many are left?

[John Boy]

how many are left?
Goatboy ... ? He didn't tell me how many he had made. Maybe it's best to work on the basis of First Come - First Served
Send Lou and email or give him a call. Contact details are in my post

[goatboy_k]

i have already sent money for one, just wondering if i should jump on another with these things being so rare!

[John Boy]

Gents ... the 462560 Molds are in from Lyman ...

Cost of Mold ... $75.00
Shipping and Handling by Priority Mail ... $10.00
PA RESIDENTS 7% SALES TAX
IF YOU WANT TOP PUNCHES $8.75 OR SIZEING DIES $19.50. LOU WILL INCLUDE THE SHIPPING WITH THE MOULD

LOUIS SELLMAN
2003 EWINGS MILL ROAD
CORAOPOLIS, PA 15108.
customcastbullets@yahoo.com

Send Lou an email with your mailing address and put a check or money order in an envelope and send it to him

[rugerman1]

Any feedback on what diameter this will drop with WW's?

[John Boy]

Any feedback on what diameter this will drop with WW's?
Rugerman- I can't give you an answer because I don't know. Have never cast this bullet

[goatboy_k]

still waiting on mine when did they ship??

kurt

[John Boy]

still waiting on mine when did they ship??

Kurt - go up to post # 84 and send Lou Sellman an email to his address listed there.

[goatboy_k]

i talked to him on the 13th and he said that they were ready to ship but had not yet..

kurt

[John Boy]

Goatboy: I talked to Lou this evening:
... The molds are in
... He is processing as fast as he can: 200 mail-in orders and 86 emails for all the molds he sells

[94Doug]

I cast some out of a mixture of WW and some pure lead, and they came out at .461....

Doug

[Nazgul]

Got mine last week. Nice!!!

Thanks, Don

[ddeaton]

Dumb question. The sizing die and top punch fit what brand sizer?

[madcaster]

I guess that I am too late on this one!

[goatboy_k]

mine is great, shoots great when sized to .460 and hits hard

[John Boy]

I guess that I am too late on this one!

Madcaster - Nope!
Lou Sellman ordered extras and still has some. Here's the order information:
CHECK OR MONEY ORDER ONLY. I DONT DO THE CREDIT CARDS.

THE 462560 WILL BE $75.00

PA RESIDENTS 7% SALES TAX.

IF THEY WANT TOP PUNCHES $8.75 OR SIZEING DIES $19.50 I WILL INCLUDE THE SHIPPING WITH THE MOULD. SHIPPING WILL BE PRIORITY MAIL $10.00 TO USA.

MY ADDRESS IS:
LOUIS SELLMAN
2003 EWINGS MILL ROAD
CORAOPOLIS, PA 15108.
Lou's email address ... customcastbullets@yahoo.com
Email Subject ... Purchase of 462560 Mold

[John Boy]

The sizing die and top punch fit what brand sizer?
ddeaton, all the Lymans. Not sure about the Star. Send him an email and ask

[C1PNR]

I think I just figured out that I didn't send enough to cover postage!! Dang, we need to just cost these deals at the FOB destination price instead of "plus shipping" prices!

Arg! I hate looking dumb, and it's so easy to do lately.:confused:

Well, at least you won't see me in photos of the Deification tomorrow. I'm going to the range!:coffee:

[45nut]

is this an active buy?

[94Doug]

There is one for sale by Hornsurgeon in that section...

Doug

[johnly]

Just scored a new Lyman 462560 on eBay for $57.50 :D

Every now and then one gets lucky.

John

[HollandNut]

yeah I got lucky last year after signing up for this one and got a four cav for $150 ..

So is the one you guys gotten a SC or DC ??