HM2, light 30 cal Ed Harris plinker - 6 cav

[JTknives]

This is a group buy for a light weight 30 cal 6 cav mold.
I worked with Ed Harris and Outpost75 to design this boolit. below i have linked the discussion if you want to fallow the topic and why things where done the way thy where done.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?226399-HM2-light-30-cal-plinker-6-cav

This is an aluminum 7075-T6 mold with a .1875 thick sprue plate and the block is 1.375 x 1.375 x 3.00.
The sprue plate is Hot blued and the locating pins and bushing are hardened and precision ground. Pins are selected after bushing are pressed into the blocks to insure perfect fit. The stop pin is the same screw/sleeve that the pivot uses. This allows the sprue plate to be flipped around if needed.

Options:
This mold can be cut a few different ways to fit your needs. The cav can be cut to different depths depending on the weight you want and the length of bevel base needed. One thing i will point out is that we will not be offering different depths in the same block. All cavs will be cut at the same depth.

"I will take one"
All standard buying applies, if you want it then say "I will take one" HERE on the forum, you will then be added to the list. The list is used to gauge how many molds I need to make, I always make extra.

Delevery date:
We are gathering names, then we will have the tool made.

Payment & Ordering:
All payments and orders are done through our website now.
The molds are first come first served!. Meaning If you don't go on our site and buy your mold its possible for some one else to buy it.
If you want to pay over the phone or by money order that's fine, just go to the website and place your order then select pay by phone or money order.

The price for this run will be $125.00 + shipping (flat rate box usps) which is calculated on the site

Website: www.HeavyMetalMolds.com
when you go to the site make sure to sigh up for the news letter, that's how i announce new molds and when a group buy is done and ready to be payed for.

http://www.jtcustomknives.com/calendar/files/1/Heavy_Metal_Molds_311-1-125_125_gr_Sketch.Jpg

http://www.jtcustomknives.com/calendar/files/1/Heavy_Metal_Molds_Copy_of_%28_311-1-125_%29__91_gr_Sketch.Jpg


Customer list:

[Outpost75]

Ed Harris and Outpost 75 for two sets total:

EDITED 4/21/14

one in .311"diameter x.500" long, for 7.62x25 and .32 ACP
one in .311"diameter x .680" long for .30 caliber rifle gallery

[Boaz]

I will take one .Same as Outpost 75 . Boaz

[dromia]

I'm in for:

1 x 0.311" diameter 0.500" length.

1 x 0.316" diameter 0.530" length, 0.100" base.

[JTknives]

Ed Harris and Outpost 75 for two sets .311"diameter x.500" long, 90-91 grains approximate for 7.62x25 and .32 ACP

so is that 2 sets for both of you or 2 sets total?

[Outpost75]

so is that 2 sets for both of you or 2 sets total?


Edited OP and also on the bump.

[bakrzdzn]

I would like one set .311x.530". for .30 carbine. if you can advise, would a gas check be needed? would need handles also.

Roy

[Outpost75]

I would like one set .311x.530". for .30 carbine. if you can advise, would a gas check be needed? would need handles also.

Roy

The .530 length is a plain base with 0.1" width base band and no bevel. To fit a GC you would need to order the full length 125-grain bullet with the long bevel base. A GC will press onto this for high velocity use, or it can be shot as a bevel base without the GC.

The 125-grain full length version would be my choice for a .30 carbine.

[TXGunNut]

Put me down for at least one, still working on the details. Have couple of 32-20 revolvers that like light boolits and a rifle that doesn't.

[Outpost75]

Put me down for at least one, still working on the details. Have couple of 32-20 revolvers that like light boolits and a rifle that doesn't.

What alloy and powders are you using, and in what rifle?

I think where people get wrapped around the axle us in trying to exceed the blackpowder velocity levels in stronger rifles like the 92 Winchester, and those loads are not the best in revolvers. I think life was easier when the rifles were Winchester '73s and people knew to keep the loads light, and then the same loads with soft bullets, faster burning powders and subsonic velocities in a 6" revolver, would also work in the rifle. Everything you could want in a farm utility load.

Original blackpowder loads were 115-grain bullet of 1:30 or 1:40 alloy at about 1000 fps in a long-barrel revolver and 1300 fps in a rifle. With smokeless you can get that performance with 3 grains of Bullseye, 3.5 of W231 or 4 grs. of Unique, and a soft. 314-.315" bullet should shoot in everything, kill small game without destroying alot of meat, so you can eat up to the bullet hole.

Not exactly rocket science. You do not want your ears to ring or to get a sunburn from muzzle flash. K.I.S.S. principle!

[TXGunNut]

I'll be using ACWW's if possible and have no high-velocity aspirations for this rifle. Have learned that BP cartridges seem to perform best with BP (big surprise!) but would like to use the 3.5 231 loads that my revolvers like, suspect the rifle will like the light load once the boolits get a little heavier. I suspect I'll eventually load this cartridge with BP once I find a boolit the rifle likes. Present mould is a TL design, a GG design will allow me to use SPG which in turn will make using BP easier.
That's helpful, thanks!

[TXGunNut]

Looks like I need a mould that will drop .313 dia. BB 115 gr boolits.

[TXGunNut]

Shameless bump.

[TXGunNut]

I'm out, NOE had a few 314008's on his site this morning.

[fatelvis]

The .68" length boolit will work with or without a GC correct? If a GC is used and put through a Lubrisizer, will a thin layer of lube be deposited on the remaining "heel"?

[Outpost75]

The full 0.68" length will accept a GC, if pressed on, but has cleaner aerodynamics than a regular GC heel if used without one. If a GC is pressed on you will have a film of lube deposited on the bevel, but it is easier to wipe off the bevel than on a conventional GC heel, if you prefer.



The .68" diameter boolit will work with or without a GC correct? If a GC is used and put through a Lubrisizer, will a thin layer of lube be deposited on the remaining "heel"?

[JTknives]

so are we still a go for this design? i'm running 45 acp molds right now and i hop will be done with them in a few days.

[dragon813gt]

I'm in for:
1 x 0.311" diameter 0.500" length.
1 x 0.316" diameter 0.500" length.

[Outpost75]

Ed Harris and I are still in for a total of two sets of blocks but we changing our order to

one in .311x.500 (90 grains) for .32 ACP, and 7.62x25
one in .311x.680 (125 grains) for subsonic .30 cal. gallery rifle

Because we just gotta test the 125-grain boattail in the .30-'06, because THAT was our whole motivation to do this to start with!!!!!!

[JTknives]

Anyone Else?

[Greg]

JT-

I would like in on this group buy

1 x 0.313" diameter 0.500" long

kratzner (at) charter (dot) net

[Greg]

JT-

I need to add a (Lyman style) top punch if it's available