Factory Ammo PC'd ????

[nighthunter]

Included is a pic of a 45 auto cartridge I picked up at one of the local ranges. It appears to be a powder coated bullet or something very similar. It is a medium gray finish that is hard but scratchable with a thumbnail and pressure applied. In the photo it is visible where I scratched it. I'm not entirely up to date with factory ammo as I use so very little of it. Are the ammo companies looking at powder coating? This cartridge would appear that they are definitely doing something along this line.

Nighthunter

[JASON4X4]

What brand is it

[VHoward]

Are you certain it is factory loaded? Or is it someone else's reload?

[btroj]

Bet it is a reload

[nighthunter]

It is a Speer cartridge. 99.9% sure it is a factory loaded round. There is not a mark on the case to indicate a reload.

Nighthunter

[legend 550]

Factory I've got 300 rounds. 94991

[dragon813gt]

Looks like Winchester has brought back the Black Talon coating.

[Maximumbob54]

Says it's a "Lubalox" coating to reduce barrel fouling and engraving forces. Wonder what "Lubalox" actually is.

[dbosman]

Lubalox is an oxide coating.
Black Talon is probably the best known version.

http://www.winchester.com/learning-center/faqs/Ammunition/Pages/ammunition-question091.aspx

[lukewmtdew]

I should have taken a picture but im fairly sure i saw a box of herters something like 9mm with a powder coated bullet

[lukewmtdew]

That was at cabelas....ill have to look the next time im up there

[lukewmtdew]

I just googled it I guess its a total nylon jacket?

[bangerjim]

If it is scratch-able with you finger......I sure do not want any! That is highly inferior quality in my PC coating testing. PAINT will scrape off like that.

But........those suckers that buy factory loads deserve only the best?!?!?!?

banger

[Bullshop Junior]

Included is a pic of a 45 auto cartridge I picked up at one of the local ranges. It appears to be a powder coated bullet or something very similar. It is a medium gray finish that is hard but scratchable with a thumbnail and pressure applied. In the photo it is visible where I scratched it. I'm not entirely up to date with factory ammo as I use so very little of it. Are the ammo companies looking at powder coating? This cartridge would appear that they are definitely doing something along this line.

Nighthunter

Im pretty sure the black magic shotgun slugs are PC or simular.

[Bullshop Junior]

I should have taken a picture but im fairly sure i saw a box of herters something like 9mm with a powder coated bullet

Herters is old, so I doubt it was Herters.

[lukewmtdew]

http://www.armslist.com/posts/1064816/colorado-ammo-for-sale--200-rounds-herters-115-grain-9mm-total-nylon-jacket

[lukewmtdew]

21.25 per box of 9mm aluminum case ridiculous!

[StratsMan]

Herters is old, so I doubt it was Herters.

The Herters name is being recycled and put on Russian made ammo... I've seen it at one of the Big Stores... Cabella's perhaps...

[dragon813gt]

Herter's ammo is currently being produced.


21.25 per box of 9mm aluminum case ridiculous!
Makes the $27 for 100 WWB seem like a deal. But even that is over priced by at least $7.

[Bullshop Junior]

The Herters name is being recycled and put on Russian made ammo... I've seen it at one of the Big Stores... Cabella's perhaps...

Ahhh.

[Echd]

Lubalox has been used by Winchester for a long time- although I don't know if they ever said exactly what it is. It definitely isn't PC. Some sort of oxide coating I guess.

I sort of suspect it's as much for looks as anything. Their high end bullets like the Black Talons and Fail Safes (both gone now) used it, but I can't say I ever felt that standard factory JHP or rifle bullets needed it.

[DRNurse1]

I think we need a play list: Western>>bought by____________in #### for folks like me who do not know the convoluted history of ammunition manufacturing. Any one willing to contribute to this doctoral thesis? We can call it a "PbD" if you want.

[Echd]

WCC predates Olin Industries, which owns all of the Winchester lines, along with other chemical products.

Western purchased Winchester in 1931. Olin made them Winchester-Western in 1935, and in 1944 they all became Olin Industries.

More reading at http://www.b2i.us/profiles/investor/fullpage.asp?BzID=1548&to=cp&Nav=0&LangID=1&s=0&ID=6661

[nighthunter]

It's a SPEER cartridge. Leave Winchester out of it.

[kweidner]

Well if you consider my business a factory yes. Course winchester turns out in seconds what I can produce in a week. :grin: They are reman.