311291 W/O gas check?

[scattershot]

I have a bunch of 311291 boolits I cast years ago, with no gas checks to go on them. Since boattail Jwords seem to shoot well, I thought I'd just load 'em and shoot 'em at low velocity from a 30/30. Anyone done this? How did it work out?

[runfiverun]

keep the velocity's in the 1-k range and you should do fine.
something like 8 grs of unique would be about right.

[Jack Stanley]

I use the same bullets in my aught six without checks and minimal lube . Nine point two grains of Unique shoots to the battle sights of my 03 up to about forty yards . No leading at all and ragged groups all the time . For the 30WCF I'd cut the powder charge back a little though , at least untill you get the hang of it .

I've shot them in mine 30WCF without checks but I don't remember the charge or which powder .

Jack

[Char-Gar]

Yep to what the others say. This is where tumble lube really shines!

[scattershot]

Thanks for the info, guys, looks like I'm GTG.

[williamwaco]

Run 5 +1

I use 8 or 9 grains of Unique.
I can't tell any difference in the two charges.

( .30-30 )

[Bret4207]

This question has been covered hundreds, if not thousands of times and the Gas Checks section was created just because the question is asked so often. Take a gander there and find all the info you want.

[scattershot]

Thanks. I guess I missed the gas check section. appreciate the tip.

[starmac]

Thanks Bret, for some reason I have never noticed the gas check forum.

[Bret4207]

Thanks Bret, for some reason I have never noticed the gas check forum.

The new guys I can forgive, but a guy with almost 12K posts! Shame on you sir! Shame!:kidding:

[starmac]

LOL I went to the gas check forum and read through it. Most of the threads in there I have read in other forums, so I'm wondering how long it has been there without my noticing it, or if I have been looking at it and don't remember. They do say memory is the second thing to go. lol

[CGT80]

Don't feel bad. I just did the same exact thing. I tend to scroll through the pages quickly and the gas check boolit without gas check was the very first topic in that forum.

I was thinking of a 6 banger gas check mold for my 30-30 and 30-06 and running no gas check for the light loads. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on a NOE saeco 315 mold that is plain base. Most of my shooting is with the less expensive light loads. I think I recall using 44 cal gas check boolits without the checks and doing fine. The lube may have been messy, can't remember that far back.

I have been running red dot and herco in my rifles with a 159 grain rn pb and I get 1100-1300 fps. I haven't noticed any leading and I can hit 12" steel plates at 100-160 yards, with iron sights.

It is cool to shoot 30-06 or 30-30 cheaper than what it cost me to load up 9mm pistol ammo with moly coated lead bullets.

Good luck with your load!

[Bret4207]

There are lots of designs that tend to do well bare based. I shot my 311316 for years that way just because I had no GC's and no sizer. You can do it. I have several PB rifle moulds that shoot pretty good as long as I keep the speed down. Small charges of fast burning powders, soft alloys, good lube and the willingness to experiment a bit will get you where you want to go.

[Larry Gibson]

The RCBS 30-150-CM (Cowboy Mould) is and excellent FB's .30 cal bullet that is useful in most .30 cal rifles.

Larry Gibson