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snaketail
10-04-2013, 11:37 AM
I have a 20” Rossi in .454 Casull that I use with .45 Colt ammo. The rifle has a 1:16 twist – a somewhat fast twist. I’ve had reasonable success with 250gr RNFP Cast Boolits now that I’ve changed to .454 size.

I’m considering another change - to a 200gr .454 boolit to take advantage of the quick twist rate.

I value the opinion of the shooters here, so I thought this would be the place to find out if I should change to 200gr, or stay with the relatively successful 250gr. (relatively successful – in that a change from.452 to .454 made a great difference my group size – but I’m still searching for the ideal load.)

Michael

PS: I used to work at Cabela’s. One of my coworkers said he remembered it as “Tighter is quicker”. I’m pretty sure he was referring to guns.

Buckshot
10-05-2013, 03:13 AM
...........The heavier (longer) a slug is for a given caliber the faster the twist needs to be. The twist in my Rossi M92 chambered 45 Colt is 32". I also have a Winchester (Miroku) M92 rifle in 45 Colt. It has the 'Pistol' twist of 16". The 16" twist of the Miroku will stabilize the Lee 457-340-F (sized .452") while the Rossi will not.

..............Buckshot

missionary5155
10-05-2013, 10:11 AM
Good morning
The fast twist will enable you to shoot boolits at a slower velocity. But you loose the ability to go into upper velocities with soft boolits. It is all a trade off.
If I was looking for a slow speed plinker that 200 grain would be effective. Be good on light weight critters also. No reason you should not be able to get a 200 grainer slipping along at 1500. Is this 200 gr a plain base ?
But for an all purpose load I would stick with that 250. Again with that 1-16 twist you should be able to go real slow (800 fps) and still be reasonably stable at distance. I would think you could get easily into the 300 grainers at slow velocity around 1000 fps.
Only problem with a fast twist is getting fast FPS. You can but you have to get into hard alloys and gas checks. It is always a trade off. But you see what it will do and live within the friendly confines of the barrel you have. It is niether bad nor good.
Mike in Peru

snaketail
10-07-2013, 10:59 AM
Rossi is now saying the .454 Casull is a 1:30 twist. I'm not "plinking" much - I use the rifle for Cowboy Lever Action Silhouette. So I think I'll stay with the 250gr.

Thanks,
Michael

OnHoPr
10-08-2013, 07:53 AM
With the 1:30 twist your original thought of the 200 gr might be better for accuracy and lighter recoil in the faster shooting sports.

snaketail
10-08-2013, 10:50 AM
OK, I'll try some 200gr .454s. I feel like I'm shooting a different load every time I go out - gotta settle for "the one" soon.

M