300 savage.

[starmac]

Does anyone use or have tried the 311291 in a model 99, 300 savage.

I have read post where the 311041 doesn't work well in them, but have seen nothing on the 311291.

[nagantguy]

Wondered about this myself, a .300 savage is right at the top of my list for this weekend's gun show. Wanted one for ages, so have done lots of reading on and about them. Someone here will no doubt have an answer for you.

[OverMax]

I've tried them. A friend and I trade bollits back & forth. I have a 041 mold and He has the 291. Excellent boolit for the 300 Sav. reasonably accurate out of my 99e. Never really developed a sweet spot recipe for their use in my 300. Just played around with using different powders & recipes for paper targeting with their use is all. The 291 is kind of a universal 30 cal boolit. It seems to shoot well out of most cartridges that can accept its use. If I were to buy another mold for use in my 30-30s or my 300 99e. This would be one. But since my deer shots are under 100 yrds out of my stand the 041 works well for that purpose.

[starmac]

OverMax does the 311041 feed and work well in your M99.

[richhodg66]

The 31141 works fine in my 99EG, in fact, that is going to be my primary deer combo this year. Mine will allow me to seat that bullet way out and still feed and chamber.

[starmac]

I know every rifle is a different animal, but I have read where the 31041 didn't work well in the 99. I haven't tried it yet, but made a deal for a 291 basically for my 99.
I will try them both, I don't suppose a guy can have too many molds anyway. lol

[richhodg66]

The 311291 and the 311041 (formerly the 31141) are pretty much the same bullet, the 311291 has a rounded nose is the only real difference I can see.

I used a .308 '99 last year to take a good buck with using the Ranchdog bullet which is squatter and has a bigger flatter nose than the 31141 I used the year before and had no feeding problems with it either.

My .300 '99 feeds that 31141 just fine and the old "short neck on the .300 Savage" business doesn't really seem to hold true. I can seat them to where the base of the bullet is even with the bottom of the neck or just a little below and they will still feed and chamber fine in my rifle, the only problem is I have a lot of exposed lube in the groove by doing that, so I'll need to be careful with the ammo in the field.

I'm not an expert on the '99, I have four of them, only two of which have I shot a whole lot, but in my experience, they are very much more forgiving on what they'll feed and handloading for them than you might think.

[richhodg66]

By the way, he's right, the 311291 is a very good general purpose bullet for .30s in my experience. It was the first rifle bullet mold I ever bought because of that recommendation.

[dantoweed64]

I have a Rem 722 in 300 Savage that I load for, but have never used cast in it. My Dad bought it the year I was born, 1948. I load 150,180 and 220 grain loads for it. I have so much loaded ammo that I will never run out! But have recently thought about cast loads. Would need to buy more brass...

[1Shirt]

Shoots very well in 700 Rem!
1Shirt!

[OverMax]

starmac

041 used in my 99e: Never tried them. I've tried 291 they work well.
My 300e is sighted in for 170 gr. J-word boolits.
The 041 casts. I use in my 94 30-30s for target practice and my son's deer stand occasionally.

[358 Win]

I have a .300 Savage in a 99EG from 1956. Mine really likes the Lyman 31141. My 31141 boolits weight 178 grains fully dressed. The feed fine also from the spool magazine. Loaded over some Alliant 2400 and sparked by a Federal 215 Magnum primer It is shooting some really nice groups with it's early plum colored Leupold VXII 2x7x36. I've found with my 99EG, that as long as loaded ammo be it cast or jacketed, is kept at or near 2.60" and not exceeding 2.60" COL all is well. My Rem 722, Rem 700, and my Rem 7600 pump all can be loaded to exceed 2.60" with no complaints from them.
358 Win

[starmac]

358 That sounds great I have heard the 31141 boolits were not the best for it. Your rifle sounds like the twin to mine, scope and all except mine is an earlier take down.
I have been thinking about swapping the leupold for an old weaver k4 though.

[Maineboy]

I have a early 60s vintage 99F that feeds (and likes) both the 311041 and 311291. It also feeds and likes the RCBS 30-180-FN equally well.

[Char-Gar]

The fly in the 300 Savage ointment is it's very short case neck. Cramer designed a bullet (No. 46) for this 300 Savage. It is a spire point that weights 155 - 160 grains but keeps all the driving bands in the short neck.

I have used it in the 308 Winchester, which has a similar case capacity as the 300 Savage but with a longer, but still short neck. Like most spire points, it really shines at 1.3 to 1.4 K fps, but accuracy starts to go south once the speed gets to 1.5 K fps or so. Even so it will deliver 3 MOA at a full 2K fps, which is good for that kind of design. Drop the speed back and groups really tighten up.

The gas check really isn't need at the speed it does it best work. When it turns cooler I intend to try it again without gas checks at "kerr-rumph" speeds over some Bullseye. From Lyman No. 3 it cast a uniform .313 on the driving bands and the nose is .301 in front of the top band and then starts the taper to the sharp nose.

I will come back and post a pic of some of them as soon as the battery on my camera gets out of the charger.