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Muddydogs
08-26-2013, 10:52 PM
Thought you guys might like to see the first Speer reloading book, copyright 1954 and Lyman's 41st edition book copyrighted 1957. Thought it might be cool for some of you young guys, I'm sure that the old crotchety farts on this forum have seen them before.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k256/muddydogs/2013-08-26204018_zpsfe72b7cb.jpg (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/muddydogs/media/2013-08-26204018_zpsfe72b7cb.jpg.html)

MtGun44
08-26-2013, 11:01 PM
I have the left hand one, not the right. But not too young
anymore.

Bill

DrCaveman
08-26-2013, 11:13 PM
Id like to see the data. Bet they have some pretty stout 38/357 mag loads in there. Good ol' making the most of your cartridge, i can appreciate and respect that

The goofy font and alignment on the lyman is interesting. Seems that they were catering to a 'fun' crowd. Maybe attitudes about handloading were more nonchalant then, hence the higher load specs. How many people got hurt from it? My bet is not many

Thanks for the peek at the past. Always cool

kenyerian
08-26-2013, 11:17 PM
Nice!!!!

Jupiter7
08-26-2013, 11:18 PM
I think the picture on the Lyman speaks volumes for anyone who questions running lead and lube in autoloading rifles. Obviously been doing it since long before my time. At best guess, I figure that's a m1 garand, lacks en bloc in the pic though.

Edit: anybody got a guess on what boolit they are showing loaded?

Muddydogs
08-26-2013, 11:30 PM
The Speer book is just rifle loads. The Lyman lists 2400 and unique for there high velocity 38/357 loads, all the loads listed for 38/357 are for cast bullets, no jacketed. The rest of the load data for each caliber lists data for cast and a few jacketed bullets.

JeffinNZ
08-27-2013, 05:50 AM
The old manuals still rock. I grad any I see. Unfortunately that is not many.

Uncle Grinch
08-27-2013, 06:41 AM
I've had quite a few of these and a few even older and for some reason, I gave them to young aspiring reloaders to help them out. Noble reason.... sure, but now I wish I had kept them.

Char-Gar
08-27-2013, 06:49 AM
The Lyman 41 is what I started with. I still have it and refer to it frequently.

nagantguy
08-27-2013, 06:53 AM
Love the old manuals, good refference and fun to read. It's cool to see how things have changed, though sometimes not for the better.

Lead Fred
08-27-2013, 07:03 AM
Used them both when I wore a younger man's clothes

novalty
08-27-2013, 10:23 AM
Well I turn 33 in a couple months, while I don't have those two manuals, I do have a few older manuals in my reloading library. Comes in handy since most of the new ones do not have information on 25-35 WCF.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m11/novalty1970/Reloading/NewManuals_zps1b6269dc.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/user/novalty1970/media/Reloading/NewManuals_zps1b6269dc.jpg.html)

Dale in Louisiana
08-27-2013, 11:10 AM
I got a copy of Complete Guide to Handloading by Philip B. Sharpe.

It give histories and discussions of the whys and the wherefores for handloading before WW II and an addendum gives more information from 1945 to 1950.

I first read it from the library when I was a kid. I bought my present copy from Alibris.

dale in Louisiana

fireguy715
08-27-2013, 11:21 AM
I have a few old manuals and it's pretty crazy how hot the listed loads would get.

1Shirt
08-27-2013, 12:09 PM
Have both and a couple dozen more, and that is never enough!
1Shirt!

rr2241tx
08-27-2013, 01:43 PM
Old manuals are interesting reading to be sure. Make sure you understand the concept of personal responsibility before you use 70 year old reloading data to load up a maximum charge with modern components. Those manuals were written when it wasn't necessary to have 50 pages of disclaimers because everyone understood that just because it was safe in the author's test rifle didn't mean it was guaranteed to be safe in theirs. My old manuals are filled with ODGs' india ink notes on exact load data for specific firearms. Most of the loads inked in are well below the chart maximum.

gray wolf
08-27-2013, 01:54 PM
I have the Lyman 45th and that's it, not cause I don't want a newer one, just that every time I get a buck or two saved it goes for food or some other thing.
I saw the new Lyman reloading book and it looked good.
I try to use Hodgons powders and go to thee web site. Or I ask a question here
in order verify a load.

Hardcast416taylor
08-27-2013, 02:30 PM
Up until about 10 yrs. back I used to donate an older manual to someone that might need one whenever a newer one came out. Stop doing that when I retired and buying fewer new manuals. Still got afew of the real old ones here though.Robert

sthwestvictoria
08-27-2013, 04:24 PM
I was happy to pick up the Lyman 45th four days ago at a local small gun show. For $AUD10 it has a great deal of interesting reading, also for the caster it has quite a good section and pictures of all the old molds. It has some interesting minutiae in the back pages. For example a table of how far your firearm will launch a projectile if held at the optimum 30 degrees. Will I ever need that? Not Sure.

downwind
08-27-2013, 09:04 PM
I acquired both these manuals about a year and a half ago from a "CLUB DONATION" from a members widow.

They sit with the rest of my manuals

I"ve looked at them from cover to cover several times.

GREAT STUFF!!!!!!!!!!

DOWNWIND