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canuck4570
10-07-2007, 10:43 AM
is the 50sw easy to load with cast bullet ... looked up a few loads and it seem it run in the high pressure end and has you all know its no good for cast.... any experience with this caliber it would be for the TC Katahdin rifle. thanks Canuck

Scrounger
10-07-2007, 11:23 AM
Yes, factory loads are high end, but you can load it to a lower pressure and still get shoulder bending performance out of it. Note the 3 levels of pressure .45-70s are loaded to. And all in between.

twoworms
10-11-2007, 11:52 PM
I load for my 20" TC Encore barrel in 500S&W. The only problem is that it shoots lead like a shotgun at 100 yards with my first cast loads. I now have opened up a Lee 440gr .501 mold to cast boolits to .505 to .507 and size them back down to .503. I have not tested them yet, but expect them to shoot better. I have been working on getting mine to shoot for near a year. My first barrel I sent back to TC as the leade on it was too long, they sent me back a barrel with a better chamber but a longer leade that the first barrel.

My plinking/target load for it and my hand gun is the 440gr (WW) boolit with a GC over 11.3 grains of Unique. My hand gun shoots this load very well. In the rifle with the undersized boolits this load gave me 1000 fps, out of my 4" handgun it gave right at 800 fps.


Good luck,

Tim

C A Plater
10-12-2007, 01:08 AM
I have a On Target Technologies custom 20" Encore barrel in .500 and so far my best load accuracy wise is with a 440 grain cast from Leadheads over slightly compressed charge of 40.0 grains of WC680 (AA1680). Chronograph show a steady 1650 fps with a standard deviation of only 9.7. Not good for handgun as you need the extra barrel to get a good burn.

45nut
10-12-2007, 01:34 AM
I dread the day I have to sell my ott's. I think i'll settle for a boolit first.

Bullshop
10-12-2007, 11:45 AM
H 4227 might be another good one. I disected some Corbon ammo and thats what appeared to be in them. From one of the first long barreled S&W we clocked them at a very consistant 1670 fps with 440 wfn. Should do even better from a sealed breach and longer barrel.
BIC/BS

Wayne Smith
10-12-2007, 12:15 PM
Has anybody actually seen a TC Katadin? I've been looking for one for a while.

BigSlick
10-13-2007, 07:42 AM
H 4227 might be another good one. I disected some Corbon ammo and thats what appeared to be in them. From one of the first long barreled S&W we clocked them at a very consistant 1670 fps with 440 wfn. Should do even better from a sealed breach and longer barrel.
BIC/BS

Agreed.

I use H4227 almost exclusively in full loads. Accuracy has proven to be excellent, very clean, complete burn and recoil seems to be smoother than with LilGun, H110, 1680 or other powders I've tried. Lights up right nice with a standard primer too, no mag primer needed.
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Bird1955
04-17-2023, 09:35 AM
I have a H&R Handi rifle with a 50sw barrel, looking for some light loads for a cast 440 gr bullet

mehavey
04-17-2023, 10:31 AM
How light is "light" ?
(22" barrel?)

Intel6
04-23-2023, 10:52 AM
I have a H&R Handi rifle with a 50sw barrel, looking for some light loads for a cast 440 gr bullet

I cast for my .500 S&W T/C Katahdin barrel and shoot lots of the Lee 440 bullets which end up at 450 grs after a gas check and powder coat. I have a full power load for the bullet but also worked up a lighter load for it for "plinking."

14.0 grs. of Unique sends the Lee bullet out of my barrel at just over 1,100 fps. and it shoots really well.

In the pic below you can see my loaded cartridge with the Lee 440 bullet. I load the light load with the bullet seated and crimped in the upper crimp groove and the heavy load I seat the bullet out and crimp in the lower crimp groove. That way I can visually identify what load I am using. Yes those other two loads are the big 700 gr. bullet and the same bullet with a hollow point pin installed in the mould turning it into a giant deep hp bullet.

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Here is my T/C Encore carbine with the 599 S&W barrel installed.


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15meter
04-23-2023, 10:23 PM
Anybody load the 500 S&W with round balls. I've got a buddy with the revolver and I was considering trying some round ball loads just for plinking.

Doable, or just another silly idea that should be allowed to die a quiet death?

mehavey
04-24-2023, 07:52 PM
Quickload tells me a 500"(+) ALOX'd RB crimped mid-diameter and
a nearly full case of Red Dot might be "....very interesting...."

15meter
04-26-2023, 05:11 PM
I was thinking of making a simple sizer that sized .533 round balls to .505ish then rolling in Ben's Liquid Lube.

The .533 because I've got a bunch of them and no muzzleloader to shoot them in. And I've got some 7/8-14 bolts and a 1/2" reamer, drill and ream to .500 then hone up from there.

Just another too warm to sail, too cold to ride the motorcycle, project.

I would think the .533 round balls would give a decent flat for the rifling to grip.

Define "a nearly case full" of Red Dot.

mehavey
04-27-2023, 10:54 AM
535 sized to 502 and seated half-way into case/crimped
21gr Red Dot/90% fill/49ksi/1,750 out of an 8" barrel
Strongly recommend ALOX all "round" 'cause that fast-rise
pressure is definitely gonna flatten that ball out as it goes

Thus "suggesteth" Quickload

LAWYERSPEAK to those who might follow blindly
YMMV Take great care and work up lower

Bird1955
08-07-2023, 05:42 AM
Thanks, that’s about what I’m looking for.