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BCB
06-30-2013, 08:34 AM
This may be absurd, but can pellets for air guns be cast?...

Anyone do it?...

If so, what type of success?...

Pretty small critters, they are...

Thanks...BCB

Horace
06-30-2013, 08:48 AM
Check out NOE website they have molds.

Horace

jcwit
06-30-2013, 09:38 AM
Check out NOE website they have molds.

Horace

What the heck is NOE? How bout a link?

Tried google, got nothing.

BCB
06-30-2013, 09:46 AM
What the heck is NOE? How bout a link?

Tried google, got nothing.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/

prsman23
06-30-2013, 09:47 AM
noebulletmolds.com/NV/

Dale in Louisiana
06-30-2013, 11:14 AM
Due to the tiny size and soft lead composition, I would think that a good 'O' press like a Rochchucker should be able to swage these things all day, especially if you make the pellets without the waist like the old Sheridan 5mm.

An enterprising machinist should be able to work something up with a bit of effort.

dale in Louisiana

NoZombies
07-01-2013, 07:37 PM
I have a 5mm airgun mold. It's a real PITA. swaging would be faster, more consistent, and just all around better.

dragon813gt
07-01-2013, 07:45 PM
So who is going to build the tooling to make this happen :)
My next purchase is going to be an air rifle and like firearms I don't want to be beholden to a store to shoot it. Not that the pellets are really expensive. I just want to be able to make them myself.

C1PNR
07-01-2013, 07:50 PM
Holy Cow! As Yogi Berra would say - "It's deja vu all over again"

MT Chambers
07-01-2013, 07:54 PM
There seems to be more interest in casting airgun pellets for the newer .25 cals., which can lay down some smack, I think LBT has done some effective molds for the .25. The ones that I have seen are heavier than I would like as the normal pellet weight of the .25 is 30 grains, with the hollow skirt. I need to find out more before I lay down a lot of cash on a mold, esp. if I won't be able to duplicate the accuracy of factory pellets, which is top notch!!

jcwit
07-01-2013, 08:21 PM
I believe the is/was a fellow in England making pellet swaging tool.

In fact!

http://www.corbins.com/pellets.htm
http://airgunpelletmaker.weebly.com/
https://www.google.com/search?q=air+gun+pellet+swaging&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=KR3SUf_GH4apyAGs94GQDw&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=638

Google is a wonderful thing

texassako
07-01-2013, 08:47 PM
I have a ~31 gr .25 cal pellet mold from LBT, but shoot it in .25 acp. I guess it did not work that well in in the previous owners air rifle. It is actually pretty easy to cast this particular boolit.

Harter66
07-01-2013, 11:37 PM
And I see this cute little 179-15 2R w/1 wide lube groove plain base , then think wait isn't that dia about the same as the sprue holes? Nose pour for a HB isn't any better.

If a swage die set comes up GB under $110 count me in.

Nickle
07-01-2013, 11:42 PM
Corbin sells swage dies to make these.

But, hold onto your wallet, they aren't cheap. And, Corbin isn't fast.

Silver Eagle
07-02-2013, 03:02 AM
Hope your airgun is happy and accurate with your chosen pellets. Some are rather particular as to what pellets they "like".
Would really be bad after buying (making) a mold or swager and find out you can't hit anything with them.
As to alloy, a nearly pure soft lead would probably be best. Might need to add a bit of antimony as needed for toughness.
Most manufacturers tumble with a bit of graphite powder for lubrication and to cut down on oxidation.

Pakprotector
07-02-2013, 07:44 PM
hey-Hey!!!,
They can indeed be cast. I still call 'em boolits though...lol This for a 25 cal Marauder with a comparatively lightly choked BSA barrel on it( maybe .001 of a choke v. the .0025-003" of the OE Green Mountain tube ). I have a Lyman 252435, a 25-050-RN by RCBS and a 48.6 gr flat nose from Veral at LBT. I have done MOA at 100 yards with the RCBS boolits, so yes, that is right there with JSB Kings. The diabolo-shaped Kings can't tolerate much breeze before even 50 yard groups start to open up...nevermind 100 yard ones. That and Kings would be well past super-sonic at the energies I can toss 53 gr boolits at...:)
cheers,
Douglas

melloairman
07-02-2013, 09:25 PM
hey-Hey!!!,
They can indeed be cast. I still call 'em boolits though...lol This for a 25 cal Marauder with a comparatively lightly choked BSA barrel on it( maybe .001 of a choke v. the .0025-003" of the OE Green Mountain tube ). I have a Lyman 252435, a 25-050-RN by RCBS and a 48.6 gr flat nose from Veral at LBT. I have done MOA at 100 yards with the RCBS boolits, so yes, that is right there with JSB Kings. The diabolo-shaped Kings can't tolerate much breeze before even 50 yard groups start to open up...nevermind 100 yard ones. That and Kings would be well past super-sonic at the energies I can toss 53 gr boolits at...:)
cheers,
Douglas
I am glad to hear that you are happy with the mold . If it was not so heavy I would not have sold it . But the two LBT molds I now have in 25 caliber are doing good as well and they are much lighter for my old body . Marvin

Dale in Louisiana
07-02-2013, 09:59 PM
I figured Pat or Charlie could whip something up on short notice that wouldn't cost but $100.

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

dale in Louisiana

melloairman
07-02-2013, 10:59 PM
I have been casting for AR now for several years but not as many as some . I do have a cabine tree bhn tester . And I have shot up to 22 bhn in some of my AR with moa results . Some barrels will not take over 10-12 bhn with out losing fps and accuracy . Is 22 bhn needed not really but when you have over a ton of it with no money invested in it then why not if accuracy is attained . Also the major commercial casting companies that I know of that I have tested their bullets as well as what they have stated are casted or swaged at 8-10 bhn . There are some specialty AR casters that cast mostly for the hunting crowd that use either pure or a 2% tin mix . They state that it is for expansion reasons mostly . Marvin