Jack Stanley
06-26-2013, 02:31 PM
I've used up almost all the bullets from my borrowed molds so now I'm beginning to work with bullets from my own molds . The first one I wanted to work with is the Lyman 225462 I wanted to use this bullet in this particular Savage model 110 because flat nosed bullets tend to hang-up during feeding from the magazine . First I found that with my bullets sized at .2253" (ish) the best overall length of loaded ammo is 2.057" . At 2.060 you can feel the bullets pushing into the rifling when chambering and accuracy is worse than when I seat them a little shorter . I also tried seating them to 2.040" and that went nowhere as well .
With bullets seated to 2.057" , no gas checks , tumble lubed and sized then light tumble with paste wax . I used pistol primers and three point three grains of Bullseye at thirty yards and got ten shot groups I could cover with a nickle . OK now to me THAT shoots , I'm trying to make the rifle do that with a powder that gets more velocity now . In the past with other bullets , eight grains of Unique and a pistol primer will shoot like that . Not with this 225462 bullet though , I backed off the charge and ran it up to eight point two and no joy . I backed off the charge and swtiched to small rifle primers ... nope ! I went from Javalina lube to LBT , and no real big difference . I changed crimp from light to none and even tried a LEE factory crimp and that didn't help .
What is frustraing is the last bullet I used was the RCBS 22-55-SP with the same eight grain charge , pistol primer , light crimp and it would almost go into the same hole . All the while with a velocity of about twenty-one hundred feet per second . Feeding wasn't positive but it shot great .
I'm thinking along the line of trying Hercules twenty-four hundred , in the past with the RCBS bullet it was reasonably accurate when used in an eleven grain charge . I went to using Unique because it left cases cleaner and had less of a velocity deviation . I wonder with the longer bearing surface of the 225462 if twenty-four hundred would burn a little better now . I have about forty bullets checked and lubed with LBT I could try and about fifty checked and lubed with Alox/paste wax .
Anybody got some insight about these Savage 110 rifles and the Lyman 225462 bullets ? I'd like to find a load I can make by the ammo can full using the Dillon So I'm staying away from fillers and such .
Jack
With bullets seated to 2.057" , no gas checks , tumble lubed and sized then light tumble with paste wax . I used pistol primers and three point three grains of Bullseye at thirty yards and got ten shot groups I could cover with a nickle . OK now to me THAT shoots , I'm trying to make the rifle do that with a powder that gets more velocity now . In the past with other bullets , eight grains of Unique and a pistol primer will shoot like that . Not with this 225462 bullet though , I backed off the charge and ran it up to eight point two and no joy . I backed off the charge and swtiched to small rifle primers ... nope ! I went from Javalina lube to LBT , and no real big difference . I changed crimp from light to none and even tried a LEE factory crimp and that didn't help .
What is frustraing is the last bullet I used was the RCBS 22-55-SP with the same eight grain charge , pistol primer , light crimp and it would almost go into the same hole . All the while with a velocity of about twenty-one hundred feet per second . Feeding wasn't positive but it shot great .
I'm thinking along the line of trying Hercules twenty-four hundred , in the past with the RCBS bullet it was reasonably accurate when used in an eleven grain charge . I went to using Unique because it left cases cleaner and had less of a velocity deviation . I wonder with the longer bearing surface of the 225462 if twenty-four hundred would burn a little better now . I have about forty bullets checked and lubed with LBT I could try and about fifty checked and lubed with Alox/paste wax .
Anybody got some insight about these Savage 110 rifles and the Lyman 225462 bullets ? I'd like to find a load I can make by the ammo can full using the Dillon So I'm staying away from fillers and such .
Jack