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dtknowles
05-15-2013, 09:16 PM
I have been watching the swap and sell threads and it looks like nobody ever buys .40 S&W brass. I am thinking about taking mine to the recyclers next time I go. Even when it is offered it is hardly priced about scrap price.

Is their an explanation???

Tim

Glock Junkie
05-15-2013, 09:22 PM
I have noticed that also. Seems like 9mil, 45s and 223 sell quick. I need all the 40 I can get but can't afford it right now lol.

btroj
05-15-2013, 09:23 PM
It is a dime a dozen. Lots on the ground at my club. I don't own one, mine all goes to scrap.

dbosman
05-15-2013, 09:27 PM
Shipping and packing can be a PITA. Neck, and back as well.
It takes a MFRB at $12.35 to sell more than 400. For just 500, that pinches.

Phoenix
05-15-2013, 09:31 PM
Regional rate a
$5-10 depending on location
Will hold more than 1k

NSP64
05-15-2013, 09:40 PM
I find it everywhere. Don't need to buy it.

plmitch
05-15-2013, 09:42 PM
Why buy something you can pick up for free at the range, stuff grows like weeds.

Jailer
05-15-2013, 09:48 PM
I had 2 five gallon buckets of the stuff sitting around taking space for two years. Finally took it in to the local scrappers and a month later I get a buddy asking for some 40 brass.

It doesn't spoil so hold on to it if you have it.

gew98
05-15-2013, 10:14 PM
I can't even give it away. Lately all the 40's the chuckleheads leave on the ground goes to the scrap man. I've probably scrapped over 70lbs of it since september last. I've got a wad of 9mm that's going the same route soon enough. I do save all the 45 brass no matter what...well except the small primer cases.
Hell I even offered a 10 to 1 swap on certain projos or what they may consider fair and never got a reply one !.

freebullet
05-15-2013, 10:16 PM
Don't own a 40 but have over 1k pieces. It's laying around everywhere soon to eclipse 9mm which I don't buy either cause I find it all the time for free. Picked up over 2500 a few weeks ago for free, why buy it?

waksupi
05-15-2013, 10:49 PM
With the shortages we have just gone through are you REALLY going to toss brass? Next time around, it may be the hot commodity.

Rangefinder
05-15-2013, 10:55 PM
With the shortages we have just gone through are you REALLY going to toss brass? Next time around, it may be the hot commodity.

+1 to THAT one... I don't scrap a thing unless it's just plain unserviceable.

zidave
05-15-2013, 11:09 PM
I need all the 40 I can get but can't afford it right now lol.

Same here.

Glock Junkie
05-15-2013, 11:12 PM
I have to admit I'm jealous of all these guys that find 40s laying around. When I look for brass it looks like someone has used a rake at the range lol!

dtknowles
05-15-2013, 11:27 PM
I will have to hold on to it for a while anyway. It is more than an hour and a half round trip to the nearest place that will take the brass for scrap and I don't have enough scrap to justify the trip just yet, and maybe not for years. At least I have been able to unload some of my 9mm. My storage space was pretty full.

Tim

Oreo
05-15-2013, 11:29 PM
I would buy more just to stockpile because its all I shoot right now but even at $30/k its borderline whether its worth it since it is so plentiful.

But, I'll put the offer out there... anyone willing to send me .40sw brass I'll happily pay shipping and a little extra for your time. Send me a PM if you want to talk about a price. Maybe we can work something out. If you're driving distance from Baltimore I'll pick-up at your convenience.

Harter66
05-15-2013, 11:33 PM
If y'all are giving the stuff away............I've a home for a few 100 Winchester. Our range was closed due to ..............Dookie Command Indecisions, so unless I happen to stumble onto somebodies leavings in the desert I don't get much brass anymore.

I'll give the same as Oreo except I'm on the other end of the counrty.

runfiverun
05-15-2013, 11:54 PM
40 brass makes great 44 mag bullets.
I try to get it when I can, but it just ain't worth anything to me.
i'm just gonna anneal it, bend it all out of shape, and send it down range anyway.

oh,, I prefer oversized or glocked brass.

Recluse
05-16-2013, 12:02 AM
.40 S&W is the crabgrass of brass.

I've got a bunch of it and the SIL keeps trying to talk me into buying a 40 S&W. At the least, I will get some dies and molds and teach him how to reload for it.

:coffee:

dtknowles
05-16-2013, 12:34 AM
Nice try but it is still good money as scrap, it can go for a ride when my worn out brass, spent primers, berdan cases and all that go to the yard, when I saw nobody wanted it at $30/k it was clear it was ready for the scrap bin. Maybe if you offered to pay shipping plus scrap value plus a little for the trouble then you might get some interest but by then we would not be far from $30/k.

Tim


I would buy more just to stockpile because its all I shoot right now but even at $30/k its borderline whether its worth it since it is so plentiful.

But, I'll put the offer out there... anyone willing to send me .40sw brass I'll happily pay shipping and a little extra for your time. Send me a PM if you want to talk about a price. Maybe we can work something out. If you're driving distance from Baltimore I'll pick-up at your convenience.

Hard_Cast
05-16-2013, 01:39 AM
Don't ferget yer ole keys, pipe fittins, and cracked cases with all dem forties when ya scrap'em!

starmac
05-16-2013, 02:05 AM
I'm curious, what does 1000 40 brass weigh, does it bring 30 bucks a thousand at the scrapyard?

hardcase54
05-16-2013, 03:49 AM
.40 S&W case weighs about 70 gr,so 1000 about 10 lbs.

frkelly74
05-16-2013, 07:07 AM
So it's like $17.10 per thousand here abouts, Scrap value. I have been selling all I find for about $.04 ea in small quantities. You have to be a little flexible and sell what people actually will buy, Massive quantities seem harder to unload than small quantities .

Boerrancher
05-16-2013, 07:32 AM
I don't own a .40 and probably never will unless someone gives me one. I still hang on to the brass I pick up and will most likely later on buy a Mold and a die set. In the future loaded .40 cal could be great trading stock, for something useful.

Best wishes,

Joe

bob208
05-16-2013, 07:46 AM
other then the few here. i find most people that shoot a .40 do not reload and those that do don't cast.

i don't own a .40 but i have a lot of brass . some day i mite come across a set of dies. then i will load it and sell it at the fleamarket. the lyman 180 gr. mold for the .38-40 works good for the .40.
remember you don't have to feed it or pay taxes on that brass.

Wayne Smith
05-16-2013, 07:48 AM
other then the few here. i find most people that shoot a .40 do not reload and those that do don't cast.

i don't own a .40 but i have a lot of brass . some day i mite come across a set of dies. then i will load it and sell it at the fleamarket. the lyman 180 gr. mold for the .38-40 works good for the .40.
remember you don't have to feed it or pay taxes on that brass.

Humm, but you ought to get your FFL06 if you make an appreciable amount of money doing it.

Jim
05-16-2013, 07:58 AM
Humm, but you ought to get your FFL06 if you make an appreciable amount of money doing it.

And a tax number, a business license and about a million dollars worth of liability insurance.

x101airborne
05-16-2013, 08:15 AM
Hey! All you kats and kittens tossing that 40 brass in the trash, just hit me up! I bought 3k recently and am getting ready to run them through the dillon 650. I could use some more if yall just cant use em.

dtknowles
05-16-2013, 08:45 AM
I think that there is more than 20k out there in the swap and sell forum waiting for buyers if that gets bought I might list mine but right now give those sellers the business. I would never throw something like brass in the trash, scrapyard is not trash it is recycling. Reuse (reloading) is better than recycling but recycling is still not trash.

Tim


Hey! All you kats and kittens tossing that 40 brass in the trash, just hit me up! I bought 3k recently and am getting ready to run them through the dillon 650. I could use some more if yall just cant use em.

Dannmann801
05-16-2013, 09:13 AM
other then the few here. i find most people that shoot a .40 do not reload and those that do don't cast.

i don't own a .40 but i have a lot of brass . some day i mite come across a set of dies. then i will load it and sell it at the fleamarket. the lyman 180 gr. mold for the .38-40 works good for the .40.
remember you don't have to feed it or pay taxes on that brass.

I love my S&W MP40. That's why I started reloading. Then I started casting.
Reading this thread makes me feel a little funny, like I'm a minority
And I haven't seen a bunch of brass left at the range where I shoot, but I'll be paying closer attention now

JonB_in_Glencoe
05-16-2013, 09:24 AM
I Like the 40.

Besides reloading for it, I like the "Blazer" HS for swaging into brass jacketed bullets. Blazer seems to have the tightest weight differential tolerances. In a large batch, I will have few that vary more than 2 gr.
Jon

x101airborne
05-16-2013, 09:27 AM
Hey, anyone wanting to reload for the 40 NEEDS to order the Redding GRX Bulgebuster die or a similar product. I let my son run the brass through it and so he gets to help with the loading process. This die eliminates the "Glock Bulge" that can contribute to an out of battery firing.
Safety first.

jsheyn
05-16-2013, 09:38 AM
I keep all brass except 22. Just never know whats around the corner. I've used the phrase "Wish I still had it" more then once!

300savage
05-16-2013, 10:40 AM
Nice try but it is still good money as scrap, it can go for a ride when my worn out brass, spent primers, berdan cases and all that go to the yard, when I saw nobody wanted it at $30/k it was clear it was ready for the scrap bin. Maybe if you offered to pay shipping plus scrap value plus a little for the trouble then you might get some interest but by then we would not be far from $30/k.

Tim
,
Tim I would be interested in a few thousand if you cared to pm me a price

Oreo
05-16-2013, 10:49 AM
So it's like $17.10 per thousand here abouts, Scrap value.

At $18/k +shipping I'll buy 8k (that's two large usps frb's) from anyone willing to sell it to me at that price.

blackthorn
05-16-2013, 11:02 AM
Remember the overabundance of the lowly wheel weight?---- Just saying---

smkummer
05-16-2013, 11:15 AM
Its the most common LEO cartridge made. 30 years ago, one could sweep the range of 38 special all day long. Here is a thought, why not buy a 40 S&W chambered gun and have a lifetime of free brass? I agree that the Lyman 38-40 bullet makes a really nice boolit for the 40S&W as that is one of the molds I have. Also for less recoil I am loading a 155 SWC lyman bullet slightly above a starting load with 700X for some really cheap shooting.

H.Callahan
05-16-2013, 12:21 PM
Remember the overabundance of the lowly wheel weight?---- Just saying---
Amen!

garym1a2
05-16-2013, 12:44 PM
9mm and 40 brass are like dirt at my range. Good thing I load for both, the 40 is very easy to load a cast target load.

TES
05-16-2013, 12:48 PM
I need 5k .45 acp LPP / 10k .40 / 20k 9mm. Would like it clean but I wont fuss if its not. Shoot me a pm if you have it.

HATCH
05-16-2013, 12:48 PM
8K of 40 is the price was right....

mold maker
05-16-2013, 12:50 PM
And gold used to sell for $17. an oz. I've sold brass pipe etc for as little as .70 a lb. Wish I had those buckets of valves and fittings to sell now.
Waste not, want not.
Those 40 cases make 45 cal jackets also.
Us old fraps have a different perspective.

dtknowles
05-16-2013, 01:07 PM
Not interested in a .40 because I have multiple 9mm and .357's and a life time supply of brass for those.

Tim


Its the most common LEO cartridge made. 30 years ago, one could sweep the range of 38 special all day long. Here is a thought, why not buy a 40 S&W chambered gun and have a lifetime of free brass? I agree that the Lyman 38-40 bullet makes a really nice boolit for the 40S&W as that is one of the molds I have. Also for less recoil I am loading a 155 SWC lyman bullet slightly above a starting load with 700X for some really cheap shooting.

popper
05-16-2013, 05:58 PM
Recluse - I'll take all your 40, or get one for your SIL. On my side of town it's 45 or 9, which I don't want.

fatelk
05-16-2013, 08:17 PM
I've come to appreciate the .40 a lot more than I used to. I've actually had better luck loading cast in it than I have with 9mm (Glock factory barrel no less!) I like my .45s, but the .40 is good too.

I've never understood why some folks dislike the round so much. It's halfway between the 9mm and .45, so I guess it's either useless or a good compromise, depending on your perspective. :)

A guy at a gun show had a bunch on his table a few months ago, for $15/k. I would have bought some if I had needed any. I think that's actually below scrap value around here.

GOPHER SLAYER
05-16-2013, 09:49 PM
I think others have answered the question very well. The question being, why so little interest in reloading 40SW? I agree that a large number of people who shoot this round are LEO and most of them don't reload. If my life depended on the gun and cartridge I carried I would't either.

dtknowles
05-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Yes Slayer, I certainly did get my answer. Lots of shooters of .40 and not many reload and those that do aren't here because they don't use cast boolits. I also got the feeling that I will be able to unload this brass if I want if I price it right and wait for buyers. I am not in a rush as I am not collecting more brass these days as the easy pickings has dried up. I am sure that if I wanted to I could find buyers on other sites as well but I am not that driven.

Tim


I think others have answered the question very well. The question being, why so little interest in reloading 40SW? I agree that a large number of people who shoot this round are LEO and most of them don't reload. If my life depended on the gun and cartridge I carried I would't either.

starmac
05-16-2013, 10:08 PM
GOPHER SLAYER If my life depended on the gun and cartridge I carried I would't either.

I have to ask why???

Adam10mm
05-17-2013, 12:53 AM
Humm, but you ought to get your FFL06 if you make an appreciable amount of money doing it.
And he also has to pay FET on that brass since it's not customer brass.

Hey, anyone wanting to reload for the 40 NEEDS to order the Redding GRX Bulgebuster die or a similar product. I let my son run the brass through it and so he gets to help with the loading process. This die eliminates the "Glock Bulge" that can contribute to an out of battery firing.
Safety first.
My sizing die works properly and I don't need to waste money on a gimmick die. Thanks though.

KCSO
05-17-2013, 10:03 AM
Nobody wants anything till you haven't got it! I had a 5 gallon bucket of 38 special brass and no one wanted any old 38's until I gave most of it away. Right now 40 S and W is THE most poular caliber for law enforcement so there is a lot of it just laying around, when that changes in your area demand will go up.

RydForLyf
05-17-2013, 10:13 AM
Last year I was buying .40 at $25/1000 plus shipping in a LFRB. That came out to $125 for the brass and $16 for the LFRB. Since everything got scarce and the demand on everything else went up, those prices disappeared and now prices are 60% higher at $40/1000 plus shipping.

Now, everyone complains of not being able to get rid of it.

I've got an open offer of $145 for 5,000 pieces of raw brass shipped to my door. Please PM me if interested in making a deal. No cleaning needed, just sort out the other stuff and send it on.

Thanks,

-RFL

Oreo
05-17-2013, 10:34 AM
That's a fair offer Rydforlyf. If the sellers don't get it then I guess they can keep holding their brass and waiting.

destrux
05-17-2013, 11:13 AM
I will be buying .40 brass in a few weeks... been short on funds lately.

I like the .40S&W better than the 9mm. You can do just about anything with it. It really excels with light bullets in rifles though. In my carbine I'm sending 135gr plated lead bullets out at almost 1700fps and with over 800ft-lbs of energy and shoots flat out to 150 yards. You can't do that with .45ACP or 9mm. The same load is safe in my handgun and manages 1300FPS with somewhere around 550ft-lbs, although I prefer 180gr at lower velocities out of the handgun because the muzzle flash of that carbine load is pretty excessive in a handgun (but non-existent out of the rifle).