View Full Version : Where to get fast twist barrel for Ruger 96-44?
L1A1Rocker
04-29-2013, 05:49 PM
I'm 3 months in waiting for my 44 silencer for my Ruger 96-44. I'm planning on running Miha's 300gr hollow point sub-sonic. The factory barrel will not stabilize this bullet so I need something with a faster twist rate. Problem is, I cannot find such a barrel.
Does anyone know who can/does manufacture a fast twist barrel for the 96-44?
Does anyone have a recommendation for twist rate for this application?
Thanks you
Nobade
04-29-2013, 06:09 PM
Shilen, Douglas, Kreiger, and Green Mountain (and I am sure others) all make 44 mag barrel blanks with a twist about twice as tight as the factory Ruger one. 1:16 is about normal I believe, or close to that. Certainly fast enough to stabilize the biggest boolit you would want to shoot from a 44 mag. As a bonus the aftermarket barrel blanks are usually .429" - .430" across the grooves so they will shoot normal boolits and not have to be loaded with oversize ones like most factory 44 mag rifles.
-Nobade
felix
04-29-2013, 06:23 PM
No, Ruger's standard now is 20 twist for the 44s. That SHOULD do a 350 grainer with no problem at 1100 fps. Look for another problem somewhere. My particular issue (first year) of that lever has a long throat. That magazine/clip has a very limiting factor for seating such a "long" boolit. My magazine won't permit a boolit more than 0.31 past the "crimp" groove. My barrel has 430 grooves and will feed and shoot custom (LBT type) 433 diameter 250 grainers within 2 inches at a hunnert at 1500 fps. ... felix
Find a friend with a late issue Marlin 444 and load it down to 1100 or so and see what happens. These Marlins have 20 twist also. Use YOUR boolit. Yes, a 16 twist will work for sure with a deep hollow point within a nominal 350 grainer. ... felix
L1A1Rocker
04-30-2013, 10:51 AM
Thanks for the replies. I'd really like to replace this barrel with a stainless barrel. The stainless holds up much better inside an integral silencer. I found one manufacture that makes 44 mag blanks. But that means I have to thread, time it, and set headspace. For the dollars involved it should come ready to screw on.
Does anyone know of a barrel manufacture that makes a fast twist barrel (stainless preferred) for the Ruger 96-44?
Nobade
04-30-2013, 07:55 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'd really like to replace this barrel with a stainless barrel. The stainless holds up much better inside an integral silencer. I found one manufacture that makes 44 mag blanks. But that means I have to thread, time it, and set headspace. For the dollars involved it should come ready to screw on.
Does anyone know of a barrel manufacture that makes a fast twist barrel (stainless preferred) for the Ruger 96-44?
That's what gunsmiths are for.
-Nobade
felix
04-30-2013, 08:11 PM
Call www.BartleinBarrels.com and see if you could interest them in a complete turnaround job for s&g. They can make anything you can dream up. Naturally, they would need to have your gun and dummy ammo should you want a total lookalike. Prolly will be a year before they could start. If they say they would be interested, I would wait until they needed your stuff to start the work. They definitely would be my pick if you want the best with zero worries. ... felix
L1A1Rocker
05-01-2013, 02:57 PM
Well, I called Douglas barrels today. They had a chrome molly Blank in 11:1 twist in stock (not available in SS ). They did give me dealer pricing on my C&R so I ordered one. It should be here in about a week. Felix, thank you for the recommendation. I went ahead with Douglas due to it being in stock, and that is also what SRT Silencer recommend for their 96-44 integral builds.
I've never worked with a blank before. I've done finishing work on roughed in barrels, but never this much work. It'll be interesting. . . Say Gearnasher, you have any 44 Mag reamers?
L1A1Rocker
05-10-2013, 11:41 AM
Found my barrel blank on the porch this morning. Don't know how long it's been out there, could have been a couple of days. Just a bit of surface rust on the outside, can't see the inside too well.
I've never messed with a blank before. Looks like I can get two barrels out of this thing.
Hey Gearnasher, have any 44Mag reamers?
felix
05-10-2013, 12:20 PM
Very first thing with a new barrel blank, check to see which end has the SMALLEST internal diameter(s). That is the MUZZLE end! ... felix
L1A1Rocker
05-10-2013, 08:13 PM
Very first thing with a new barrel blank, check to see which end has the SMALLEST internal diameter(s). That is the MUZZLE end! ... felix
THAT, sounds like good advice.
Here's a few pics:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/Project%2096-44/HPIM1441.jpg (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/L1A1Rocker/media/Project%2096-44/HPIM1441.jpg.html)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/Project%2096-44/HPIM1442.jpg (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/L1A1Rocker/media/Project%2096-44/HPIM1442.jpg.html)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/L1A1Rocker/Project%2096-44/HPIM1444.jpg (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/L1A1Rocker/media/Project%2096-44/HPIM1444.jpg.html)
helice
05-12-2013, 07:13 PM
that looks like a cannon barrel.:grin:
ohnomrbillk
06-16-2013, 03:13 PM
Looks like I can get two barrels out of this thing.
I may be interested in the other half.
Let me know
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