Good for him, the kids got guts!

[oldred]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/dad-west-virginia-boy-arrested-over-nra-shirt-says-hell-fight-punishment/

He wore his shirt back to school when he came back, not only that but now a bunch of other teens are wearing them in a show of support.

[1Shirt]

Think that this issue will become more and more prominant as Gun Rights people start resisting Political Correctness. Think I will order a couple of NRA Tee Shirts and hats myself.
1Shirt!

[oldred]

Think that this issue will become more and more prominant as Gun Rights people start resisting Political correctness (Political stupidity). Think I will order a couple of NRA Tee Shirts and hats myself.
1Shirt!

There I fixed your typo, hope you don't mind.

[dakotashooter2]

Marcum has said that he was arrested on charges of disrupting an educational process and obstructing an officer, though White said Monday that the Logan County prosecutor's office is reviewing the case to decide whether to proceed

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/23/dad-west-virginia-boy-arrested-over-nra-shirt-says-hell-fight-punishment/#ixzz2RIGbItXT

Seriously ?? You can get arrested for disrupting an educational process? 1/2 my class would have been in jail.......

I also suspect it was in fact the teacher distrupting the class by demanding a student who was not being disruptive to remove a shirt the teacher did not like..........

[Blammer]

hmm, teacher demanding a student remove his clothes, sounds like another issue could be raised here, sexual harrasment, forced liberties with a minor....

[missionary5155]

Good morning
This is great to read ! More adults ought to listen up and take notice. It is time to stand for Freedom and the Constitution.
Mike in Peru

[phil3333]

the only way to combat the commie wackos running our schools is by standing up to them

[Cactus Farmer]

I've worn a NRA belt buckle for many years and get positive comments all the time, but ONCE upon a time at an "art" party an woman went "bat carp" crazy when she saw it. Chalk up one for the loons.......... She would has had a real cow if she knew what was in my back pocket.....

But all that aside , I would have defended her and all the other fruits if the situation called for it. It's called self protection for a reason.

[DCP]

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hmm, teacher demanding a student remove his clothes, sounds like another issue could be raised here, sexual harrasment, forced liberties with a minor....

[archmaker]

dakotashooter . . . No kidding! I wonder what the punishment would be, for taking a school bus about 5 miles from school so you could go get a hamburger for lunch.

You know . . . back then the schools punished the kid, they suspended us or gave us swats. They KNEW that kids are kids, and although they discplined us, I am sure that they were laughing behind our backs and are still telling stories on some of the things we did. Today I think schools have lost this . . . and it is shame. :(

[oldred]

I've worn a NRA belt buckle for many years and get positive comments all the time, but ONCE upon a time at an "art" party an woman went "bat carp" crazy when she saw it. Chalk up one for the loons.......... She would has had a real cow if she knew what was in my back pocket.....

But all that aside , I would have defended her and all the other fruits if the situation called for it. It's called self protection for a reason.


People like that who try to force their opinion in public are just plain old fashioned stupid! The great Winston Churchill at a WWII victory party was a bit tippsy from celebrating (he was known for taking a nip or two) and was scolded by a lady of high standards (in her opinion anyway) for being drunk, he replied something to the effect "yes madam I am but tomorrow I will be sober you unfortunately will remain just as ugly".

[Smitty's Retired]

Another article here. http://www.news-record.com/home/1110338-63/wva-teen-arrested-after-wearing

What really bothers me, is the kid had worn the shirt through most of the day and the altercation first happend in the lunch room. The young mans father and a lawyer are going to fight the arrest and one day school suspension. As of yesterday, the shool is stating that the teacher was wrong, the shirt did not violate any school dress codes. But that the arrest was justified because the student was disrupting the education process. My question (as I am sure is the attorney's) is, if this happend during a lunch break, and nothing had been said in the earlier classes, exactly how was he disrupting the educational process?

From what I have read in some other articles, the community is behind him. If I were his father, I probably would also be arrested!! Because you can bet, I would have let the local police know what I thought about it!

[Phoenix]

I have always said the solution to political correctness is the opposite of political correctness. The dark side uses the same tactic, they say things over and over until everyone thinks it is how it should be, because they don't hear the opposite anymore. If people heard the opposite even half as much the change would not happen at least not in the majority.

The solution to the shirt is for everyone to wear one. If the school bans depictions of guns then everyone have one. resistance and mass disobedience is the ONLY solution to these problems. Otherwise you will always lose ground and the dark side will always get what they want. (yes I watched star wars ep2 last night)

[41 mag fan]

We need these school idiots emails...flood them with NRA mail, and demand they drop the BS they are doing and demand they punish the teacher.
Also threaten if it's not dropped, we'll be setting up a defense fund for the boys lawyer.

[Olevern]

Where are the pics of outraged adults from that community picketing outside the school?

[sundog]

What I said in the other thread, the teacher is the one who should have been arrested for exactly the same reason -- disrupting the education process -- whatever the h#|| that means. Or maybe just arrested for being stoopid!

[shdwlkr]

back in the day when Vietnam was the story of interest a bunch of us walked back into school in our uniforms wonder what this school would do if a bunch of graduates walked back in the school to talk to this kid?
We have become a nation of socialist who feel that any thing that is not politically correct is wrong. Funny thing I didn't see anyone refuse help in Boston last week and other places when things got exciting so to speak.
Schools need to learn when to speak and when to keep their opinions to themselves, I would be willing to bet those who were upset with the kid are nothing more than socialists hoping to create a world where firearms of any kind are seen as evil until a baddie comes knocking at their door then they want all the firearm help they can get. What a waste of school time and disgrace to this country that our kids have to put up with such retard teachers, school administrators and such.
Heck when I was a kid we had shooting team at school no less, guys had firearms in the back window of their pickups and no one cared. The principal did tell us had to leave the firearms in the truck during school hours though. But he was right there with us when school was over and we went to the school range. I miss those kind of administrators and yes mentors.

[starbits]

The first thing I would do is press charges against the teacher for the same offense they arrested the son for. The school admits the son was not violating rules and that the teacher was wrong. Since the teacher instigated the entire incident the blame lies with the teacher. Whether there is a conviction or not every teacher in the district, not just this one, will think twice before doing something like this again.

Starbits

[Phoenix]

I doubt a teacher can be arrested for 'disrupting the education process'

I agree she was wrong, and if he was arrested she should be, but I really doubt a teacher can be.

[Doc Highwall]

How about being arrested for violating the boys first amendment rights with false arrest/imprisonment?

[Phoenix]

I don't think there are state laws about violating first amendment rights. Only the federal government have civil rights violation criminal offenses. Although with today's laws I am sure if they wanted to they could find something.

How about simple assault. it is said she grabbed his arm and yanked on it. That should be enough to get her fired as abuse of a student is usually automatic.

[oldred]

The bottom line is the kid was doing nothing wrong and was the teacher who instigated the incident. I suppose she may be able to complain that he was uncooperative but she had no right to single him out and become confrontational for no justifiable reason, the fact remains she was totally out of line and caused the incident in the first place.

[sundog]

I doubt a teacher can be arrested for 'disrupting the education process'

I agree she was wrong, and if he was arrested she should be, but I really doubt a teacher can be.

Well, if SOMEONE can be arrested for it, why cannot it be anybody, including the teacher?

Actually what should happen is the parent(s) and student should demand 3 things: fire the teacher, expunge school suspension and PD arrest record, and formal public apology from the school district. Short of that, sue there pants off!

[abunaitoo]

How about posting the email addresses for the school, DA, teacher, school board, or anyone else connected with this fiasco.
With a flood of emails, they might just see that what they did was wrong.

[Goatwhiskers]

I hope they have a good lawyer. I'm sure laws are similar, in Louisiana if you grab someone by the arm you have assaulted them, a blow is battery. This grabbing by a teacher on a juvenile for an offense that did not exist (except in her peanut mind) should be grounds for some serious action. GW

[dakotashooter2]

My ex is a teacher and policy is you never, ever touch a student. That can get you in big trouble.

In most cases the instigator is the one that should be in trouble. The CORRECT way to handle this would have been to ask this student to join the teacher in the office THEN confront them about the shirt. You keep these situations in a contained environment to control any escalation. Asking/telling the student to remove their shirt in public is also a no no.

[jlchucker]

I don't think there are state laws about violating first amendment rights. Only the federal government have civil rights violation criminal offenses. Although with today's laws I am sure if they wanted to they could find something.

How about simple assault. it is said she grabbed his arm and yanked on it. That should be enough to get her fired as abuse of a student is usually automatic.

I'm not a lawyer, but if any of you guys are, isn't there a way the parents could sue that teacher--as an individual--for this sort of thing? Once a few of these Libtard "teachers" got hit hard in the pocketbook, I would think that they'd be a bit more thoughtful of the rights of their students. I don't mean sue the school district or school board--but subject the individual teacher to a hefty civil action. How about it? Lefty Liberals have no qualms about throwing around lawsuits--so right back at them!

[jlchucker]

I hope they have a good lawyer. I'm sure laws are similar, in Louisiana if you grab someone by the arm you have assaulted them, a blow is battery. This grabbing by a teacher on a juvenile for an offense that did not exist (except in her peanut mind) should be grounds for some serious action. GW

If possible, a lawsuit against this teacher might be a real effective way to go, if the parents have a good, merciless lawyer.

[perotter]

He wore his shirt back to school when he came back, not only that but now a bunch of other teens are wearing them in a show of support.

Another little lesson here is to get teens shooting ARs or AKs. The ARs are better for this. Be sure to mention that the 'man' wants to keep them from having them, but you're 'grandfathered in' only because your old.

Teens don't like being treated unfairly.

[wv109323]

I think the prosecutors have a very flimsy case. I don't think they could ever get a conviction if they go ahead with the case.
Also since several other students wore the same shirt on Monday and no disciplinary action was taken I don't see how they can enforce just one case and overlook the others.
Being local to the situation (12 miles away) and the father being a member of the same gun club as I am, I think a case could be won against the teacher in question. It appears from the rumor mill that the teacher was in error and has a history of misconduct.
As it took place in the lunch room in front of multiple students there is no lack of witnesses.
Also the BOE, the town council, the mayor has been totally silent on the matter.

[TheGrimReaper]

Yea,I am proud of the kid!!!

[Chicken Thief]

Your American gene pool needs a lot of clorine!
How did your once proud nation degenerate to this?

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm153/Chickenthief/Rightsvsfeelings_zpsebfb3938.jpg (http://s295.photobucket.com/user/Chickenthief/media/Rightsvsfeelings_zpsebfb3938.jpg.html)

[oldred]

Chicken Thief, I truly wish I could argue with you about that but unfortunately I can't.

[oldred]

Anyone heard how this is working out for this kid? Since the news has died down I fear he may lose much of his support and I would hate to see that happen, this boy deserves a lot of respect and all the support we can give him.

[wv109323]

Many of you remember this episode about the young man refusing to remove a t-shirt that had an NRA logo and a picture of an AR-15. He was arrested for disrupting the educational process.
I was at the range today with the young man's father. The young man got a summons to appear in court. I forget the exact date but it is in the next two weeks. It appears that the BOE is pursuing the charges and do not want to admit they were wrong. They know if they admit being in the wrong they will get a law suit against them.
I understand there were six lawyers that wanted to take the case pro-bono against the BOE.

[TXGunNut]

I hope the NRA is involved in this case. I suspect on some level they are, or will be.

[Bad Water Bill]

I wonder what kind of press there would be IF it was a 14 year old FEMALE was told by a MALE teacher to remove HER T shirt.:evil:

[jlchucker]

Well, if SOMEONE can be arrested for it, why cannot it be anybody, including the teacher?

Actually what should happen is the parent(s) and student should demand 3 things: fire the teacher, expunge school suspension and PD arrest record, and formal public apology from the school district. Short of that, sue there pants off!

What do you mean, "short of that"??? The liberal left has been beating everyone to death in partnership with the ACLU, for all sorts of whacky things. I think that our side, for a change, should start right out with lawsuits in instances like this, from the get-go. Sue the teacher, principal, superintendent of schools, each individually. Hit them in the pocket book and make sure that the lawsuits get adequate publicity. It may be the best way to get this country back to some common sense by forcing consequences on the leftist dictatorship of the proletariat that has emerged over the last few years.