311291 ? ...

[BCB]

Need a bit of help identifying the boolit shown in the pic…

It weighs in at around 170 and with the check in place, around 174…

I am thinking it is a 311291 and that is the data I used figuring the weight of the boolit…

I got about 50 of them in a box labeled. “30 caliber cast” from a bunch of reloading stuff I purchased some time ago…

Thought I would just give them a try in the T/C 14” thirty-thirty cartridge…

Just with this limited testing, it is outshooting the 311041, at least, at the 50 yard range…

I like the results. Those groups are at 50 yards…

The one on the left is with 30.0 grains of IMR-7383 and it is right at 0.4” center to center…

The one on the right is with 35 grains of IMR-4831 and it is right at 0.5” center to center…

I’m sure glad I took that 223 Remington barrel off of this Contender frame. Nothing but lousy with the .224 boolits…
(But, it is a real shooter with 50 V-Max)

Thanks…BCB

[Buck-N-Rut]

I think it's the same as the 308291 by lyman or ideal maybe. I think the number may have changed. May be mistaken. I have the mold if you would like to buy it. I won't ever use it.

[BCB]

I think it's the same as the 308291 by lyman or ideal maybe. I think the number may have changed. May be mistaken. I have the mold if you would like to buy it. I won't ever use it.

PM sent...

Thanks...

BCB

[dale2242]

I bought a 14" 30-30 Tender barrel just for shooting cast. I have a 4X EER Leupold scope mounted on it.
It is a great shooter.
My plinking load with 311291 is 10gr Unique and my serious load is 32 gr BL-C2.
It is interesting that you are getting such nice groups with that slow powders.
Is it burning clean? No unburned powder in the barrel?
My alloy is 50/50 WW/Lino with a gator GC.....dale

[462]

Yep, that's an Ideal 308291/Lyman 311291. I don't have a .30 caliber rifle that doesn't love the ancient, ventless, single-cavity308291. The round nose makes them ideal (no pun intended) for use in a tube magazine.

[BCB]

Yep, that's an Ideal 308291/Lyman 311291. I don't have a .30 caliber rifle that doesn't love the ancient, ventless, single-cavity308291. The round nose makes them ideal (no pun intended) for use in a tube magazine.

How does the boolit fill out with no vents?...

And, were they all single-cavity?...

And is there anyway to tell if the boolits I have came from the 308291 or the 311291?...

Whoever cast the ones I have did an excellent job--they are near perfect in every way...

Thanks...BCB

[BCB]

I bought a 14" 30-30 Tender barrel just for shooting cast. I have a 4X EER Leupold scope mounted on it.
It is a great shooter.
My plinking load with 311291 is 10gr Unique and my serious load is 32 gr BL-C2.
It is interesting that you are getting such nice groups with that slow powders.
Is it burning clean? No unburned powder in the barrel?
My alloy is 50/50 WW/Lino with a gator GC.....dale


I went to my spreadsheet and looked at all the different loads I tried with the 311041 in the 30-30...

Several Model 94's, a Model 336 (1948 manufacture date), and the 14" Contender...

I found out of 32 loads tired in all the firearms, only one worked with a fast burner. The powder was Trail Boss with a muzzle velocity of 1058 fps...

The other accurate loads, 1 inch area are 50 yards with a 'scoped firearm and 1.5 inch with open sights (other people could have done better here I am sure), were fired using slow burners...

IMR-4831, WC-852, and IMR-7383 although that power is at or near IMR-4064...

All the fast burners, Red Dot, Unique, Green Dot, 2400, Al-8. etc just did not make the cut with the 50-yard test...

And yes, there is some unburned powder in the barrel with the slow burners...

Pushed it right out with the shot fired next!!!...

BCB

[462]

How does the boolit fill out with no vents?...
Magic, it seems. It's the only ventless mould I have, and it is the best casting.


And, were they all single-cavity?...
Probably not.

And is there anyway to tell if the boolits I have came from the 308291 or the 311291?...
I doubt it. However, if the boolits are not just fat, but obese, they're probably from the 308291. Cast of straight wheel weights and air-cooled, mine measure .314".