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rlaw34776
08-17-2007, 05:16 PM
I am brand new to casting and have a question.

I ordered a Lee 358 mold from midway to load some 38's with. Well when I cast the finished bullets come out to be 354 which is too small.

I am using pure lead with a few wheel weights - do not know the specific ratio.

This occurs even after my mold is hot and after casting a few times.

The mold is a six cavity job.

I guess my question is, is there something that I could do to cause this such as the ration of lead vs tin etc - mold too hot or not hot enough etc?

NuJudge
08-17-2007, 06:11 PM
I've always cast with Lead alloy (wheelweights plus a little Tin) as hot as I can get it, and run molds hot also, and my bullets have always run bigger than they are supposed to. Frosting on the bullets has never been something I avoided.

If you are smoking your molds or using spray graphite release agent, stop. I use spray graphite, and it does help with release of bullets from sticky molds, but some people claim they get a smaller bullet. I cannot measure any reduction in bullet diameter, but then I may be using less of it.

There is a lot of talk here about Antimony causing bullets to 'grow' a little for a couple days after casting. A good source of Antimony would be some high-Antimony Lead shot.

The 'Search' function is your friend. Spend some time looking at threads on these subjects.

CDD

rlaw34776
08-17-2007, 07:24 PM
Great thanks.

And I am using Frankford mold release so I will clean it out and see if that helps.

versifier
08-17-2007, 08:01 PM
If they're that small, call Lee and then send it back as per their instructions. That's way too small. Even with pure lead, a proper sized mould will drop them at least .357.

44man
08-17-2007, 09:00 PM
Send it back! Lee screws up a lot.

rlaw34776
08-18-2007, 12:47 AM
I washed the mold with gun scrubber and got all of the mold release off. I gained a little diameter, still not 358. The bullets are not falling in the cases anymore. They are running around 355.

Do you think that is still too small to work?

redbear705
08-18-2007, 05:40 AM
What is the number on the mold?

Maybe you have a mold for a 9mm?

JR

rlaw34776
08-18-2007, 08:08 AM
90306

NuJudge
08-18-2007, 10:55 AM
That's the: "Lee 6-Cavity Bullet Mold 358-125-RF (358 Diameter) 125 Grain Round Nose Flat Tip"

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=916523

Definitely not a 9mm bullet. It should be larger than .354 or .355.

Just to be sure, test your micrometer or caliper against a known diameter bullet to make sure it's not just reading small.

rlaw34776
08-18-2007, 11:45 AM
I think you may be on to something. I checked some semi jacketed HP's that are supposed to be 357 (store bought) and they checked 354. I am using a set of digital calipers (new) but not a name brand.

The battery is new but I think I will change it to see if makes a difference. If not I will go buy another set that are not digital and see if that makes a differnce.

Ohio Rusty
08-18-2007, 08:56 PM
This thread caught my attention !! I have that bullet mould, but in a two holer. I just measured one of the 125RF's from my mould and it mic's .360. The bullets were cast straight WW's.
Ohio Rusty

rlaw34776
08-20-2007, 02:05 PM
A combination of cleaning the mold release out, changing the battery in my calipers and pouring some more as hot as I could get them all seemed to have solved the problem.

Thanks for everyone's input and help.