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DCP
03-14-2013, 09:40 AM
Game or Trail Camera

Who make a good Game or Trail Camera?



Thanks for the help

P.K.
03-14-2013, 04:31 PM
Wow, lot's of reading here: http://www.gamecamerasonline.com/

quilbilly
03-14-2013, 11:09 PM
We have had a Primos 35 out on our trails almost 24/7/365 including the rainy seasons for almost two years with the same memory chip. Works fine. We get about 20 pics a week on average but have had as high as 137 (all deer) in one week. Got some great pics of one cougar over a few weeks but haven't seen her (we named her Penelope) in some months.

P.K.
03-15-2013, 05:39 AM
After reading through the link I posted I'm convinced I'm going with one that has Bluetooth. I don't have to go near it to D/L the pic's to my phone.

DCP
03-15-2013, 06:21 PM
Thanks for the replies

Here my problem see what amazon reviews does to Primos 35

It gets 4 stars but look at the one star reviews

Its the same thing with digital powder scales always someone very unhappy
http://www.amazon.com/Primos-Truth-Cam-35-Camera/product-reviews/B003PVGA1O/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

Makes it very hard to do buy anything

P.K.
03-16-2013, 05:48 AM
Thanks for the replies

Here my problem see what amazon reviews does to Primos 35

It gets 4 stars but look at the one star reviews

Its the same thing with digital powder scales always someone very unhappy
http://www.amazon.com/Primos-Truth-Cam-35-Camera/product-reviews/B003PVGA1O/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

Makes it very hard to do buy anything

I started reading through the replys to the trail cam on amazone and got to thinking what a piece......wait a sec. I'll lay odd's these rocket surgeons have never used equipment out of doors before etc....etc. Most of the issues are Pi$$ed off operator headspace and timing.

I'd give one a try, sounds like most of the issues occured (at least the fist page or two of negative reviews) over night or over the course of nights and water intrusion. A bad o-ring due to a ham handed know it all is going to ruin anything and no ammout of bad mouthing is going to solve that problem. If you do decide to try one out run some vasaline around that o-ring to help the seal( not to mention strech the o-ring) and not to over tourque the screws. ;-)

wch
03-18-2013, 04:42 AM
Moultrie.

sthwestvictoria
03-18-2013, 05:20 AM
I don't have one but the Primo 35 photographs look very good and the owner states a set of batteries last 3 months!
Pictures here:
http://www.shooting.com.au/forum/index.php?/topic/37079-the-2013-nsw-fallow-rut-is-just-starting/
Price seems good as well, I'll look for them here in Australia.

DCP
03-18-2013, 07:14 AM
Link broken


I don't have one but the Primo 35 photographs look very good and the owner states a set of batteries last 3 months!
Pictures here:
http://www.shooting.com.au/forum/index.php?/topic/37079-the-2013-nsw-fallow-rut-is-just-starting/
Price seems good as well, I'll look for them here in Australia.

10x
03-18-2013, 08:06 AM
This is a really new for me I never had a trail camera before. I am just 23 years old and I do not have a lot of money to spend for this. I would like something that has good battery life but is not the biggest deal. If you anyone have suggestions for this must share.

There are two basic camera flash types, One with a visible flash, one with Infra Red. Cameras with a visible flash will sometimes get stolen because someone sees the flash.
The I.R. flash cameras are more difficult to detect.
So I would recommend an I.R. type flash. - more money but your camera is more likely to be there when you get back.
Also a cable and a real padlock to keep it locked to where ever you mount it.

Bluetooth is a nice feature - especially when the camera is mounted 10-12 feet above the ground. It is a good idea to mount that high as few folks who discover the camera will come back with a ladder, and a ladder is difficult to carry in the woods.
A high mount is good for two reasons, game usually does not look up, nor do people...
A good game camera can be used for more than just watching wildlife. I have one in my back yard that not only watches wildlife but records who is in my backyard and when they went through. I have photos of deer, bear, moose, and the kid who broke in.

quilbilly
03-18-2013, 01:58 PM
Last year our trail cam caught the new local fish biologist walking our trail checking out our creek (not a good thing in ecotopia Washington State). He was supposed to ask permission to trespass. Rather than raise #$%&# with the Dept bureaucrats, I just sent them the picture of the biologist plus the next picture in the series 5 minutes later which was our neighborhood cougar, we named Penelope, walking up his back trail. I recommended the biologist be more aware of his surroundings when he trespasses since in our neighborhood, trespassers may be eaten.

ole 5 hole group
03-18-2013, 02:06 PM
You can find some good information here.

http://www.trailcampro.com/trailcamerareviews.aspx

trooperdan
03-18-2013, 04:38 PM
I am thinking of a trail cam as a part of home security. There are SD cards made with wi-fi built in, that is amazing to me! I have an Eye-fi SD card in my cheap ($80) digital camera and it uploads to my home computer through my wireless network as soon as I take the pic! If I can equip a trail cam with an Eye-fi card within range of my home network it would prevent the intruders from taking the pics if they take the camera.

http://www.eye.fi/

sthwestvictoria
03-18-2013, 05:19 PM
Link broken
It works for me - maybe a stupid geo-blocking website which means you can't see it?

Here is the photograph from the website:
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Bullwolf
03-18-2013, 10:41 PM
There are two basic camera flash types, One with a visible flash, one with Infra Red. Cameras with a visible flash will sometimes get stolen because someone sees the flash.
The I.R. flash cameras are more difficult to detect.
So I would recommend an I.R. type flash. - more money but your cameras is more likely to be there when you get back.
Also a cable and a real padlock to keep it locked to where ever you mount it.

A good game camera can be used for more than just watching wildlife. I have one in my back yard that not only watches wildlife but records who is in my backyard and when they went through. I have photos of deer, bear, moose, and the kid who broke in.

I have to agree with all of the above. IR flash is the way to go. It's more stealthy, and your cams are much less likely to disappear if they are unseen. Id rather view unsuspecting pictures, than ones startled by a flash anyway. I also strongly recommend using a padlock and cable around the cams, and locking up access to the SDHC cards.

I managed to get a nice IR picture of a mountain lion walking up my road, after getting a few blurry pics of it in passing, and of its backside.

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I was surprised at how much activity (both trespassing, and wildlife) was going on in my absence on my property. This is in an extremely rural area, that's quite a few miles off the county road, and behind 2 locked gates. Most of my trespassing activity stopped shortly after I showed a picture to a person who denied exploring around my place having been caught doing so on camera. News like that travels quickly in a small town.

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I started out using inexpensive Wildgame Innovation cams, just to see if I liked having game cameras. The results were eye opening.

If you like 100's of pictures of deer and other local wildlife walking around and feeding, you will love having a game camera or two around. I really enjoy perusing all the pics. The Wild Game Innovation cams seemed to work OK for me for the first couple of years, but then the quality of the pictures they took went from good, to terrible all bright, or all dark blurry pics. I suppose you get what you pay for. I eventually had to change the old cams out.

I replaced the Wild Game Innovation cams with Primos IR Truth Cams after reading many good reviews about them.

Time will tell how well, and how long the Primos Truth Cams last I suppose. I like them so far.


- Bullwolf

10x
03-18-2013, 10:51 PM
I have to agree with all of the above.

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I managed to get a nice IR picture of a mountain lion walking up my road, after getting a few blurry pics of it in passing, and of its backside.


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I was surprised at how much activity (both trespassing, and wildlife) was going on in my absence on my property. This is in an extremely rural area, that's quite a few miles off the county road, and behind 2 locked gates. Most of my trespassing activity stopped shortly after I showed a picture to a person who denied exploring around my place having been caught doing so on camera. News like that travels quickly in a small town.


I started out using inexpensive Wildgame Innovation cams, just to see if I liked having game cameras. The results were eye opening.

- Bullwolf

That looks more like a cougar than a mountain lion.
Did you get her phone number?

Bullwolf
03-18-2013, 11:28 PM
Oh how I wish all my trespassers were that attractive - Loved the cougar reference though!

Sadly the worst offenders are brave (or idiotic) day hikers, and people who like to go exploring on their mountain bikes. They have little or no fear of rural areas, chainsaws, dogs, rednecks like me, or apparently gunfire. They seem to think rules do not apply to them while on their nature walks or rides. They have been known to carry a bicycle over locked gates, or even barbed wire, all the while ignoring the largest and most creative no trespassing signs. I have escorted far too many of these weekend warriors off my property, and back to the county road marker.

They can range extremely far on foot, and farther still on a mountain bike. The sheer stupidity never ceases to amaze me.



- Bullwolf