rebore a 94

[rainierrifleco]

i have a beater 94 with a rusty bore. was thinking of reboring to 35/ 30-30 to shoot cast boolits. any one done it.

[Nobade]

JES reboring is your go-to place for this. Good price, fast turnaround, and he does very good work.

http://www.35caliber.com/

[rainierrifleco]

i am familiar with them... but was wondering if any one has done a 94 spisifcly in 358/30-30 and how it feeds and twist rates and such

[John Taylor]

I did one for Mr. Harris who usually post at http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/. He may have posted something about it there.

[newton]

You talking about a 38/55? That would be a sweet gun to have. I do not know much about it, but if I ever get my hands on an old 30-30 that is shot out then I will be looking up someone to get it done.

[Reg]

He did a excellent write up / article in the Fouling Shot a number of issues back.
A good idea. Wish I could find a shot out 94, would sent it your way.



I did one for Mr. Harris who usually post at http://www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/. He may have posted something about it there.

[rintinglen]

I shot one once that nearly convinced me to track down another 30-30 and have it rebored and rechambered. It remains on my wish list, but that is a crowded list. P.O. Ackley said nice things about that conversion, but I don't recall the specifics. I would assume it would have a 1-16 twist like a 35 remington, but 1-14 would also be viable. I wish I could offer more help, but that is one I just haven't got around to.

[OverMax]

No write. Just marking this thread is all for my own use down the road.

http://www.35caliber.com/

[MT Gianni]

You talking about a 38/55? That would be a sweet gun to have. I do not know much about it, but if I ever get my hands on an old 30-30 that is shot out then I will be looking up someone to get it done.

Cartridge is also known as the 35-30 different than the 38/55.

[TXGunNut]

OK, I'll bite. I'm kicking around a 38-55 but 35-30 might make more sense. I cast .311, .323, .359 RD boolits and have .375 dies and brass along with 30-30 brass. I don't have a shot-out 30-30 but may follow RD's example and spring for a new Rossi in 30-30 and re-bore it.
Does the 35-30 have any advantage over the 38-55? Mebbe I should just have JESS convert it to .375 Win. Just when I thought I had it all figured out. :roll:

[rainierrifleco]

i talked to JES today and he says he as done many of them and there is no feeding issues. i think he said 15 twist and 3 gruve. says they make great cast boolit shooters and work well for pistol boolits. i guess ill screw off the barrel and get it down to him. he says 10 day turn around

[John Taylor]

[QUOTE=TXGunNut;
Does the 35-30 have any advantage over the 38-55? Mebbe I should just have JESS convert it to .375 Win. Just when I thought I had it all figured out. :roll:[/QUOTE]
The 38-55 is still loaded to BP pressures and the 35-30 can be loaded up to 42,000 same as the 30-30. This will give you higher velocity and flatter shooting. With cast bullets you may not reach the higher velocity without leading.

[rainierrifleco]

for me.... i have swadge dies for 358 and lots of moulds for handgun bullets. so i can shoot it cheap. i have nothing for 375 alto i would like to have one. and will probbly re bore the next one that falls in my lap for cheap with a shot out barrel

[Four Fingers of Death]

Hmmmmmmmmm! I fancy a re-bore to 38/55 for my Octangular 24" Barrelled 94 Classic! That would make a nice rig with a Lyman tang sight

[Nobade]

I do have a 35x 30-30 I built on a Pedersoli rolling block action. It does make a very useful cartridge, and it a bit more powerful than a 30-30. Basically the same velocities but using 215gr. boolits instead of 170gr.

Case capacity is identical (at least mine is) to the 35 rem, and load data is interchangeable.

Loading dies are pretty scarce, but I use a 357 mag carbide die to neck size or a Lee 35 Rem collet die for the same thing, and a 358 win. seating die to seat the boolits. I never load it hot enough (remember, rolling block) to need to full length size the cases, but I suppose you could cut the top off a 30-30 die to do that if you had to. Or use a 38-55 die, that would be even better.

[rainierrifleco]

my plan is to use 357 harrett dies.

[rbertalotto]

Just got my second rifle back from JES Rebore. Took two weeks!

It is a Winchester model 94 made in 1978. Beautiful gun that I picked up at my local gun shop for $300. add the $225 for JES and I've go a nice 38-55 carbine. And man do these rebores shoot! This rifle as a 30-30 was an "OK" rifle. 4-5" at 100 yards. As a 38-55 it will put three into an inch and the other two just outside...5 shots at 100 yards! The 38-55 is a fantastic cartridge. It was the benchrest accuracy cartridge of the 1800s. I now have four rifles in 38-55 and they are all outrageously accurate.

The best $225 you can spend in the gun world in my opinion!

[Nobade]

my plan is to use 357 harrett dies.

Hadn't thought about that, those should work just fine.

[MtGun44]

Why not .32 Spl? Factory ammo would make it a whole bunch easier to
sell if you ever want or need to.

Bill

[TXGunNut]

Would 32 work in a 30 bore? Thought you'd need to go bigger to get past the grooves.

[John Taylor]

Would 32 work in a 30 bore? Thought you'd need to go bigger to get past the grooves.

30-30 has a .307-.308 groove, 32 has a .312 bore. It will clean up if there are no deep pits.

[rainierrifleco]

Why not .32 Spl? Factory ammo would make it a whole bunch easier to
sell if you ever want or need to.

Bill

good point. but i already have a really nice 32 and shooting 357 bullets i mould and swadge will be kind of fun, cheap, and challanging. and i have a severly molested gun that needs more molesting, hopfuly for the better..

[rainierrifleco]

30-30 has a .307-.308 groove, 32 has a .312 bore. It will clean up if there are no deep pits.

mine is pretty severly pitted.

[rainierrifleco]

so does JES send it back chambered ir do i need to order a reamer?

[rbertalotto]

It comes back rebored, rifled and chambered

[Four Fingers of Death]

Gotta be a good deal! Another generation or twos shooting from a trashed rifle.

[Uncle Grinch]

Just got my second rifle back from JES Rebore. Took two weeks!

It is a Winchester model 94 made in 1978. Beautiful gun that I picked up at my local gun shop for $300. add the $225 for JES and I've go a nice 38-55 carbine. And man do these rebores shoot! This rifle as a 30-30 was an "OK" rifle. 4-5" at 100 yards. As a 38-55 it will put three into an inch and the other two just outside...5 shots at 100 yards! The 38-55 is a fantastic cartridge. It was the benchrest accuracy cartridge of the 1800s. I now have four rifles in 38-55 and they are all outrageously accurate.

The best $225 you can spend in the gun world in my opinion!

JES did my Marlin 336 straight grip 30-30 to .375 and I agree entirely. No issues what so ever and it comes back fast.
Best $225 I've spent in a long time.

[rainierrifleco]

thanks for the input. the barrel off the molested 30-30 is garbage.. so i sent him the barrel off the 1894 rifle to rebore to 38-55. you guys are a bad influince.. i guess ill try to find a take off 35 cal barrel and recontour it to fit the carbine..

[Fernando]

I've been using the search function which seems to keep costing me money.
I have a 30-30 coming in and am interested in this 38-55 stuff.
Will they remove the bbl for you or is it a must you do it?
Don't know if I would feel up to tackling a job like that??

[Hyphenated]

i have a beater 94 with a rusty bore. was thinking of reboring to 35/ 30-30 to shoot cast boolits. any one done it.

I see I am a couple weeks late to this party, but better late than never. I recently had JES Rebore convert a Marlin SC into a 35/30-30. Now that the weather is warming up I'm getting some range time with it. Money well spent.

I'm hard pressed now on which I like better...my 35/30-30 or my 38-55's. I will say this the 35 wins the boolit selection race hands down. Mine has a 1 in 14" twist and handles both the SAECO 245gr and Lyman 204gr boolits very well. Not to mention...gasp, a 140gr JHP pistol bullet that is a one holer on a calm day.

[northmn]

Reboring a 30-30 to a 35/30-30 would make some sense if one had a lot of 38 pistol molds and wanted to use them in a rilfe, or if the barrel is trash or if one did not like a microgrooved barrel. A 30-30 is really pretty cast bullet friendly and use of a mold like the RCBS 180FN would permit it to do about anything a 35-30 would do.

DP

[Hyphenated]

Reboring a 30-30 to a 35/30-30 would make some sense if one had a lot of 38 pistol molds and wanted to use them in a rilfe, or if the barrel is trash or if one did not like a microgrooved barrel. A 30-30 is really pretty cast bullet friendly and use of a mold like the RCBS 180FN would permit it to do about anything a 35-30 would do.

DP

A 30-30 is pretty good to a certain point, but it won't touch my 35/30-30. Chambered in a sound rifle it will easily duplicate a 250gr .375win load. The 30-30 just won't get in that neighborhood. I don't have the need, but you could even go to the Lyman 282gr boolit. The 35/30-30 certainly separates itself from the 30-30 when you get into the heavy boolits.