12 Ga. OO buck recipe using CCI 209 primers

[Idaho Gunsmith]

First post and a shout out from North Idaho. I am in the process of finding a recipe to load OO buck for my 12 ga. (2 3/4", 9 pellet). I just picked up some CCI 209 primers but realized that I couldn't find much load data for them on loading OO buck. Is there a published recipe or should I stick them in the storage box and pick a recipe from Hodgdon such as using Winchester primers instead? I understand that it's not okay to just substitute components with shotgun so that's why I am here checking first. Thanks in advance for any information.

[saint_iverson]

Congrats on your first post! Pertaining to primers, as far as metallic shooting is concerned, I've never given a second thought to using different primer manufacturers so long as they are rated the same, i.e. - Small pistol vs magnum small pistol. Between fed, CCI, win,wolf, I've had the same performance. That being said, I haven't reloaded shotgun in a long time, but in dealing with those that have, primer differences are far less of a concern than using different wads/ powders/shotweight and size/hulls.

One suggestion is to move this post to the "Shotgun" thread area though, get far more hits there! A moderator should be able to help you out.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?36-Casting-for-Shotguns

[375RUGER]

If you examine data carefully you will likely notice that for all components being the same that W209 will generally have a heavier charge of powder than the CCI209. Sometimes it is only a few tenths grain, sometimes it's more than 2g difference.
Check the data between the 2 primers with the components you will be loading and adjust powder charge accordingly. Start with the lowest pressure load listed and work up.
What load manual are you using?

[BCB]

Idaho Gunsmith...

I looked in the 2nd and 4th Edition of Lyman Shotshell Handbook and most buckshot loads do call for Winchester or Federal primers. If you are concerned, why not find a recipe and purchase a hundred 209's of whatever brand they call for...

If you are having trouble finding data, let me know what hull you are using and I could possible scan that data and send it to you via e-mail...

I load eight 00's in a AA hull. I loaded it according to weight of the pellets. I don't advocate this, but the load I came up with has worked for a good many hundred rounds downrange...

Good-luck...BCB

[Idaho Gunsmith]

I don't have a printed manual at this time. I have been looking at the Hodgdon load data center online and whatever else I can find around the internet. I plan on purchasing a printed book soon. As far as hulls go, I have a large variety of once fired so I have my pick on what I want to use. I also don't mind starting with new hulls. I have heard that the Remington hulls are a bit more durable than others.

[BCB]

If you are going to purchase a manual, the Lymans I have are pretty good...

They are the Shotgun Handbook so don't confuse them with other Lyman Handbooks...

Good-luck...BCB

[runfiverun]

here's a little advice.
shotguns are as temperamental as rifles are [quite often more so]
use a lower charge to start and pattern your loads with different chokes.
work up a little at a time.
you do have to weigh some shotgun powders.
go by your ejecta weight for load selection.
try the loads [pattern with different chokes] in each gun you are planning to use them in.

[Idaho Gunsmith]

I will be using these in a Mossberg 500 with an 18.5" barrel. I am mainly aiming at making some OO buck for my shotgun that doesn't cost $1 per round.

[GaryN]

I've been using a load of 8 00buck also. It seems much easier to deal with.

[Idaho Gunsmith]

Thanks for the info guys.