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jason f
01-12-2013, 01:45 PM
I just picked up a five cavity gc noe 311-247 mold. Looking for subsonic blackout data and 30-06 supersonic loads.

jason f
01-12-2013, 01:58 PM
Forgot to mention. After lube and check they are weighing out at 243. Sizing them at 311

jason f
01-12-2013, 04:18 PM
Just did some measurements for oal. First of all both rifles are h&r handi rifles. After measuring both chambers with both bullets touching rifling the blackout measures 2.185 Max oal and the 30-06 measures. 3.310 Max oal.

jason f
01-13-2013, 09:19 AM
I thought for sure I would get some replies on this one. There was a lot of these molds bought on a group buy.

blikseme300
01-13-2013, 10:29 AM
Jason, give it some time. I have noticed a sharp drop-off in posting regarding anything AR over the past few days.

jason f
01-13-2013, 10:34 AM
Thats true. Its only been a day. I was beginning to think this wasnt a good bullet for what it was designed for.

PuppetZ
01-13-2013, 11:13 AM
I've had good luck with 35 gn H4895 + a puff of cotton ball in the '06. Dunno what I get speed wise though. I aim for accuracy over a certain speed.

jason f
01-13-2013, 11:44 AM
Thanks for the info. I just got done casting about 600 of them this morning. That will give me a good start feeding two guns. Next on my list is a chronograph. Hopefully I can get them up to about 2000-2200 with good accuracy and no leading issues. Definately wanna keep them subsonic for the blackout single shot.

jason f
01-13-2013, 11:46 AM
I've had good luck with 35 gn H4895 + a puff of cotton ball in the '06. Dunno what I get speed wise though. I aim for accuracy over a certain speed.

Just out of curiosity what is cotton ball for?

jason f
01-13-2013, 11:50 AM
My blackout load I was shooting was 10 grains of lilgun with a 220 hornady round nose with great accuracy at 100 yards. My question is. With 22 grains of more bullet how much should I back off to start with lilgun powder?

x101airborne
01-13-2013, 01:48 PM
Hello.
I am using that boolit in my blackout pistol. With 5.5 grains red dot I am subsonic and hovering under 2 inches at 100 yards for 10 shot groups. Havent shot anything other than paper with it yet, but I am looking forward to it. In my 30-06, I was using unique but I dont remember the charge. My -06 is made on an intermediate length mauser action so it doesn't fit in my magazine and I abandoned it.
If you are looking for 2000 to 2200 fps, you will definately need a gas check.

jason f
01-13-2013, 04:38 PM
Thanks for the info. Now I got somewhere to start

PuppetZ
01-13-2013, 06:57 PM
The cotton ball (I use about 0.5 gn) is used as a filler. 35 gn of H4895 fill only 1/3 of the '06 case. It keeps the powder against the primer and help with consist ant ignition.

Dinger
01-13-2013, 10:07 PM
Jason, try 9.3gr of Lil'Gun with 2.10" COAL on the NOE 311247. Should run a little over 1000fps. Report back what you find, please.
Dinger

Moonie
01-14-2013, 03:16 PM
In 30-06 I shoot this boolit with 35gr of H4895 and have measured them at 1,950fps. I do not use filler with this load and it is very accurate.

Willbird
01-15-2013, 08:52 AM
In 30-06 I shoot this boolit with 35gr of H4895 and have measured them at 1,950fps. I do not use filler with this load and it is very accurate. Wow that is really moving along for no gas check :-). Oops I see this one maybe HAS a GC :-) ??.

Bill

Moonie
01-16-2013, 12:15 AM
Wow that is really moving along for no gas check :-). Oops I see this one maybe HAS a GC :-) ??.

Bill

I do use gas checks on this boolit in 30-06.