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Taylor
05-11-2007, 07:18 AM
Which pan would ya'll recommend? I have tried just the plain pan and the lead got stuck,ruin the pan getting them out.Now,the one with the coating on it ,does it come loose ? Become burned, or does it maintain itself. I saw a small loaf pan at Kroger's and thought it might make a good ingot mould.Could make storage of WW a little more viable. Thanks a bunch guy's.

monadnock#5
05-11-2007, 07:52 AM
Some have spoken well of the various steel and aluminum pans, but I like cast iron. Whatever shape you find that will cast an ingot that fits in your pot will work fine. I have muffin, half cylinder and a Lyman ingot mold. The Lyman I use to catch drips from the bottom pour. Get out to some yard sales and flea markets this weekend. Anything you find will be a tenth the price of store bought. Good luck.

Ken

mooman76
05-11-2007, 09:24 AM
I use ingots but got tired of moulding them after awhile. I started using the 1 qt cast iron pot that I pour from. They stack easy and take up little space and fit back in the pot for remelting. Soda or beer cans work great too. They are free and keep the lead clean untill needed. Come out to a hair under 9# and you just strip the lead off when needed. You just have to make sure they are absolutely dry before using!

alamogunr
05-11-2007, 09:37 AM
I use cast iron muffin pans like these.

https://secure.lodgemfg.com/storefront/product1.asp?menu=logic&idProduct=3951

They are a little pricey if you buy retail. I got 5 of them on closeout at a Cabela's store in Nebraska while on our way to Yellowstone a few years ago. Look at garage sales. No telling what you might find. Lodge also has an outlet store near Chattanooga. Good prices but they don't ship.

NVcurmudgeon
05-11-2007, 09:39 AM
Lyman, RCBS, and Saeco make muffin pans out of cast iron that make stackable bread loaf shaped ingots. The ingots never stick and the moulds seem to be indestructable. The moulds even take dropping on a steel plate to dislodge the ingots in stride. I use two of the one lb. loaf moulds, one Lyman, one RCBS, which are enough for my twelve lb. Potter smelting pot. The Lyman mould is about forty years old and the RCBS is only a year or two old. I also have a 9 oz. mould that came with the Potter pot which I use for tape-on pure lead ingots. Total investment in these three moulds is about $ 17, and I have never had to drive around and search yard sales. Lyman, Potter, RCBS, Saeco, and retail baking equipment distributors, such as Graf and Midway ship right to my door!

USARO4
05-11-2007, 09:42 AM
I gave up on the muffin pans after a couple of bad experiences, most modern muffin pans have the cups pressed into a sheet steel frame. If the lead sticks to the cups you have to beat the cr%# out of it to release the cups and then peel the cup from the ingot so the only last for one pour. Heres what I use, 1st pic- cast iron cornbread pan, 2lb ingot. 2nd pic- sheet steel loaf pan, 6lb ingot. 3rd pic- Lee aluminum mold, 1lb & .5 lb ingots. The first two ingot molds were bought at Wally World. All of these are easy to stack and make alloying easy because the weight of the ingots are known.

Andy_P
05-11-2007, 10:50 AM
I started out with my wife's aluminum muffins pans and quickly abandonned that - the lead stuck like crazy, they became very soft with the heat and bent out of shape, plus the muffins tasted funny.

I now use dollar store coated steel muffin pans and am very happy. I fill a large one (a dozen 2.2 lb ingots) and a small one (a dozen 1.1 lb ingots) at a time, and add and skim a bunch more WW to my melt pot while they're cooling. That's 40 lbs at a time, and by the time I'm ready to add more melt, they're cooled enough to flip over to remove the ingots. The two sizes are about perfect for storage, handling and use, and it's nice to have more than one size available.

376Steyr
05-11-2007, 11:14 AM
If you do use teflon coated muffin tins, make sure you use them outside with lots of ventilation. Apparently burning teflon fumes are toxic and are especially deadly to pet birds.

686
05-11-2007, 12:08 PM
you can find cast iron muffin pans on ebay. i got 5 from there

USARO4
05-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Taylor what part of TN are you located.

Taylor
05-11-2007, 05:54 PM
Thank's to all for the input.I am using a cast iron mold,but they still stick some.Just thought the loaf pan might work well.Wanted to see if anyone else had tried them,and what luck they had. (Clarksville)

MakeMineA10mm
05-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Following a link on here, to another link, to some pics on another website, I saw something that struck me. The guy had taken angle-iron, cut it off at about 10-12" and welded on triangular-shaped end-caps. When he stacked these, they over-lapped to fill up all of the void area in-between ingots to maximize the compactness of his storage. Very neat idea, and they are very stable/won't fall over, like the trapezoid-shaped ingots from Lyman/RCBS moulds.

jawjaboy
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/jawjaboy/IM000153.jpg

cohutt
05-12-2007, 06:46 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/jawjaboy/IM000153.jpg


I'll trade you a custom CRB hat for one of those nice ingot molds. :-D

jawjaboy
05-12-2007, 08:24 PM
I'll trade you a custom CRB hat for one of those nice ingot molds. :-D

It's a done deal....meybee! What else ye got? :mrgreen:

NVcurmudgeon
05-12-2007, 08:48 PM
jawjaboy, I haven't seen any mention of "I go Pogo" since the 1952 Presidential campaign, back when I was a tenth grader. I'm sure you heard about it from your parents.

MakeMineA10mm
05-12-2007, 09:14 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g194/jawjaboy/IM000153.jpg

These aren't the ones I was referring too, but that's OK, cause these are MUCH nicer made (like someone actually cared about craftsmanship :mrgreen: ).

jawjaboy
05-13-2007, 06:18 AM
jawjaboy, I haven't seen any mention of "I go Pogo" since the 1952 Presidential campaign, back when I was a tenth grader. I'm sure you heard about it from your parents.

I remember Pogo very well, even in the 50's. He lived in the Okefenokee Swamp y'know....I'm just down the road from the swamp!

mazo kid
05-13-2007, 06:54 PM
I've still got my "I Go Pogo" pin and most of the books. Walt Kelly was a Wis. boy and I would laugh 'til the tears ran down my cheeks every Sunday.

MT Gianni
05-13-2007, 07:55 PM
I remember my father quoting often "We have met the enemy, and he is us". from the old Pogo strip. Gianni

3sixbits
05-13-2007, 08:15 PM
Doggone, you guys got me in trouble with the Boss, I told her I need yard sell muffin pans. "She who must be obeyed", came home with a stack of them. This is before I read they don't work and I went on a buying spree on e-bay for the cast iron. Heck they cost more to ship than to buy.

jb12k
05-13-2007, 08:49 PM
Stick those yard sale muffin pans outside to rust a little, and they will work fine!

Lee
05-13-2007, 10:12 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/Lee4570/ingotmold1.jpg


hope this works, this one is a little crude, but it does the job!!!.........Lee;-)


Crappy picture! But Oh well................

shooter575
05-14-2007, 08:47 AM
jb12k has it right,A coating of rust will let them just fall out.To speed up the process just drink a few brews and pee in them! This will also keep you from ever using them again for non lead :-P

3sixbits
05-14-2007, 01:07 PM
Sooooo helpful, thank you (I think)!

AZ-Stew
05-14-2007, 03:38 PM
Stay away from the aluminum ones. When they're filled with lead and you try to pick them up, they'll bend between the muffin cavities. I've made a bunch of ingots with them, but they're more trouble than they're worth. In addition, the muffin-sized ingots don't fit well in a Lee 10 pound pot.

Regards,

Stew

jb12k
05-14-2007, 07:47 PM
While at a Dollar Tree store a while ago, I found a 4 or 6 pack of small stainless Custard cups ? About 2 inches tall, tapered from the bottom to wider mouth. Maybe 1 1/2 inches wide at bottom and 2 inch at top. These work great if you ladle pour into them carefully, and are ideal size for 10 lb pot. Only problem is stability. On level table they seem OK, But I am going to make a tray or framework for them. Ingots are small enough that they shouldn't cool the pot much at all if added singly. At 4 or 6 for $1.00, for stainless, these work for me!!

TAWILDCATT
05-14-2007, 09:56 PM
ONE OF THE sIMPSONS HARDWARE STORES HAD CAST PANS was looking at 2 days ago price was under $10.muffin/corn bread sticks and also kettles.

schutzen
05-14-2007, 10:13 PM
Lee,

Is that 1 1/2" or 2" angle your ingot mold is made of? I'm really impressed with the handle. Time to fire up the chop saw, the welder, and get busy.

Lee
05-16-2007, 01:14 PM
It's 1 1/2" angle iron. 3 cavities with the ends and steel handle extension is pretty heavy. I don't think a 4 banger would be much fun to handle. Each cavity is 4" long, the end pieces just over 6" long. And a 4" piece of 1" square tubing cut at slight angles to weld to the end piece. Old welding rod doesn't work very well, but it does make things stick for my purposes. (If I wasn't too lazy to remove all the paint before I welded, that would help also[smilie=1: ) Wood handle cut down to fit very snugly inside tubing, tapped in place with a mallet.
Well, its ugly, but its all mine.........................Lee;-)

wills
05-16-2007, 01:35 PM
Regarding the virtues of rusty ingot molds/muffin pans.


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3sixbits
05-16-2007, 02:08 PM
Why not put them out in the rain? Well when you have several lead lined doors setting out for several years waiting to fall apart, why not? She says the "yard couldn't look any worse anyway", (little does she know).

RegCom7
06-20-2019, 07:48 PM
I use the regular cheap steel muffin pans, not the aluminum. And I use the Frankford Arsenal Drop Out mold release spray in the muffin pans. You only have to use it once, and I've never had a stuck lead muffin. But the key is to only leave the lead in the pans just long enough to solidify and then dump them out. If you leave it too long the lead gets stuck. If I remember, I pour the lead and leave it in the pans for about 10 or 15 minutes.

GregLaROCHE
06-20-2019, 10:54 PM
I use a simple mold I made from angle iron. No handles. I just use welders gloves to flip it over. If I were to go with a baking mold, I’d go for cast iron.