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Tatume
09-28-2012, 07:42 AM
Good bye.

Oreo
09-28-2012, 07:50 AM
So?

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btroj
09-28-2012, 08:22 AM
If they're talking about black powder then they are correct.

captaint
09-28-2012, 08:26 AM
Agreed. Of course they were probably dealing with smokeless. Just a little behind the times, that's all. enjoy Mike

MT Gianni
09-28-2012, 02:00 PM
it is like reading a novel and having someone refer to the smell of cordite. Unless the novel was set in England or one of it's territories in the 1920's the writer failed in their research.

Oreo
09-28-2012, 02:13 PM
Its a space / physics show, not a gun show. Get over it.

Imho.

MBTcustom
09-28-2012, 02:13 PM
Well, shucks, I guess I'll never know what the original post said. I hate it when that happens! Don't go away mad tatume!

Larry Gibson
09-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Lost me....in space??????

Larry Gibson

stubshaft
09-28-2012, 02:38 PM
Rosebud!

Cadillo
09-28-2012, 04:17 PM
Was that a publicly aired suicide note?

Nothing like being concise!

Gibson
09-28-2012, 05:50 PM
Ever feel like you missed something?

Here I clicked expecting a treatise on quantum entanglement or something.

lwknight
09-28-2012, 06:04 PM
Is this the " E=- " continuum?

MtGun44
09-28-2012, 06:20 PM
??????????????????????????

ShooterAZ
09-28-2012, 07:14 PM
E=- Adios.

Oreo
09-28-2012, 07:29 PM
I saw the OP. It was a rambling venting post complaining about liberals supposedly screwing up the Science Channel show that bares the threads title. The only complaint in the OP was that gun powder was somewhat inaccurately described as consisting of charcoal, sulphur, and salt peter, and that they made some reference to firing a bullet in space.

My comments already express my point of view so I'll leave it at that.

legend 550
09-28-2012, 11:35 PM
Soooooo if you fire a bullet in the vacuum of space and nobody is there to hear, will it go bang?

And 2. If you were traveling 18000 mph in orbit and fired a bullet with a velocity of 1245 f/s wouldn't you just pass the boolit ?

Sorry they begged to be asked.

MBTcustom
09-29-2012, 12:15 AM
I have seen some weird threads in my time here, but this one takes the cake as the weirdest and one of the funniest!
You guys crack me up.

David Bachelder
09-29-2012, 03:54 AM
Soooooo if you fire a bullet in the vacuum of space and nobody is there to hear, will it go bang?

And 2. If you were traveling 18000 mph in orbit and fired a bullet with a velocity of 1245 f/s wouldn't you just pass the boolit ?

Sorry they begged to be asked.

2.) No. You would be propelled in the opposite direction.

HighHook
09-29-2012, 04:06 AM
Good bye is a statement I use when a screw or spring hits the ground and I cant find it. Of course its followed by some bad words...Just happened to me!

Fishman
09-29-2012, 09:09 AM
You say goodbye I say hello.
Hello hello?
I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello.

lavenatti
09-29-2012, 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by legend 550
Soooooo if you fire a bullet in the vacuum of space and nobody is there to hear, will it go bang?

And 2. If you were traveling 18000 mph in orbit and fired a bullet with a velocity of 1245 f/s wouldn't you just pass the boolit ?

Sorry they begged to be asked.

2.) No. You would be propelled in the opposite direction.

And you may shoot yourself in the back.

mdi
09-29-2012, 12:40 PM
If you fired a bullet, velocity 1245 fps, while traveling 18,000 mph, wouldn't the bullet now be traveling 18,000 mph + 1245 fps???? (someone else will have to do the math!)

BTW, I shot an old Hoover vacuum someone left at the shootin' place. Does that count?

camaro1st
09-29-2012, 01:29 PM
mdi did the hoover kick much?

MtGun44
09-29-2012, 02:10 PM
Boolit would start at 18000 and add the launch speed, so would be going 18000 mph
plus the boolit speed. As to the noise, it will generate a pressure pulse locally, but due
to the vacuum the gases will quickly disperse. If you are very close, you should hear a
thump as the moving gas wave hits your space suit or craft. If the craft is very stiff,
you may not hear it, in a suit, there should be a pulse transmitted to the air inside
from very close range. Probably near zero by 5-10 ft distance.

Bill

Gibson
09-29-2012, 02:50 PM
Boolit would start at 18000 and add the launch speed, so would be going 18000 mph
plus the boolit speed. As to the noise, it will generate a pressure pulse locally, but due
to the vacuum the gases will quickly disperse. If you are very close, you should hear a
thump as the moving gas wave hits your space suit or craft. If the craft is very stiff,
you may not hear it, in a suit, there should be a pulse transmitted to the air inside
from very close range. Probably near zero by 5-10 ft distance.

Bill

If it is intended to be like the old tree falling, gleaned from the writings of Berkeley (the esse est percipi, guy), it is dealing with sound. Then from a scientific perspective, the answer is, no. Sound implies vibrations picked up by an ear drum. However, in the philosophic sense it's different issue :)

God in the Quad

There was a young man who said "God
Must find it exceedingly odd
To think that the tree
Should continue to be
When there's no one about in the quad."

Reply:
"Dear Sir: Your astonishment's odd;
I am always about in the quad.
And that's why the tree
Will continue to be
Since observed by, Yours faithfully, God."

Chicken Thief
09-29-2012, 03:14 PM
In an explosion there is two "sound" waves.
The Pressure/shock wave and the real sound wave. Think a supersonic plane, bang then engine noise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC7zdZ00eZ4
In space the shock wave will travel some way before it is thinned into nothing, but a real sound wave will need molecules to travel, so space is "silent".

Chicken Thief
09-29-2012, 03:23 PM
Regarding the speed, think Newtons 3'rd law.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Until the bullet leaves the barrel they are both trawelling 18000mph or 26400fps. So the bullet will have and end speed of 27625fps. The bullets energy will will reduce the shooters speed with an equal negative amount, wich we dont know.

felix
09-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Yep! to the two posts above. ... felix

Gibson
09-29-2012, 04:14 PM
No perfect vacuum exists in either interstellar or intergalactic space. There is both ISM and IGM.

I'm sure everyone is familiar with the horror film tag: "In Space, No One Can Hear You Scream" I took the query as a facetious post put up by "legend 550".

However. . .

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/09sep_blackholesounds/

GOPHER SLAYER
09-29-2012, 05:01 PM
It was pithy.

Gibson
09-29-2012, 05:49 PM
I thought the fellow was just joking around. In the vein of the "E=-" thread.

Too bad if he has gone but oftentimes it seems necessary at the time. Hopefully he'll come back.

My posts were just playing along. I know very little about the propagation of sound waves. But as to the real issue, sad to see someone go who has been here for closing in on three years go.

MBTcustom
10-03-2012, 10:43 AM
It was pithy.

I will wear my pith helmet next time. Thingth like thith pith me off.[smilie=l:

dragonrider
10-03-2012, 12:10 PM
It was pithy.


You type with a lisp??:kidding:

Tazman1602
10-03-2012, 12:21 PM
C'mon tatume.

These guys have blasted me a dozen times over the years and I just keeping coming back. It's just an internet forum, feel the love!

Art

MBTcustom
10-03-2012, 01:38 PM
You type with a lisp??:kidding:

Yeth, it keepth me from getting infractionth. Bethidth, they thtarted it. I thought reduthing a potht to "goodby" wath rather "pithy" too![smilie=l:
OK, that's about all of that I can stand.

Seth_AZ
10-03-2012, 02:03 PM
Soooooo if you fire a bullet in the vacuum of space and nobody is there to hear, will it go bang?

And 2. If you were traveling 18000 mph in orbit and fired a bullet with a velocity of 1245 f/s wouldn't you just pass the boolit ?

Sorry they begged to be asked.
The bullet would now be going at 18000 mph + 1245 f/s, and you'd be going a little slower than 18000 mph now because the recoil would slow you down.[smilie=6:

GL49
10-03-2012, 08:20 PM
NOTICE TO NEW GUYS: Don't worry about 'em, they get going like this all the time. :veryconfu

toooldtocare
10-03-2012, 08:35 PM
Although I might have learned something here, I cant help but feel dummer

runfiverun
10-03-2012, 09:06 PM
it's working as intended then.
it starts out slowly then gradually it gets worse and worse.
i can see the beginning stages kicking in you forgot the . at the end of yer sentan

nanuk
10-03-2012, 10:53 PM
some things seem so simple at the beginning, then you find out they are not so

other things really are that simple

ie/ which came first, the chicken or the egg... that one is so simple, they teach it in grade school.
Same with the tree in the forest one.... Sound?? we learned about that too!

Slow Elk 45/70
10-03-2012, 11:40 PM
:kidding::kidding:I also thought this might be a suicide note.... now I'm depressed...:twisted:

fcvan
10-04-2012, 12:09 AM
At 18000 MPH, a 250 gr boolit launched from a 45 Colt would generate 396495 ft/lbs which would definitely be a hog busting load. Next time you see 'pigs in space' you can thank the muppet show.

mpmarty
10-04-2012, 04:06 PM
And what's the ballistic coefficient of a boolit in space?

felix
10-04-2012, 04:16 PM
The one that imparts zero friction. ... felix