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Jim
09-17-2012, 07:09 PM
Somebody gave me some old ammo and I have no clue what it is. Anybody know what it is?

SIDE VIEW OF STRIPPER CLIP
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VIEW OF HEAD STAMP
I blacked the head stamp to make it show better.

http://floydpics.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dscn1138-e1347917213938.jpg

9MM MAYBE?
36 rds. in a 6 slot, one piece stripper clip.

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BACK OF STRIPPER CLIP

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HEAD STAMP

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hardy
09-17-2012, 07:39 PM
Hey Jim,the rifle stuff is 8x56 Mannlicher.Little stuff ,don,t know Cheers,Mike

hardy
09-17-2012, 08:33 PM
Hey Jim,Member Alvarez Kelly was looking for some 8x56 for him and his buddies cartridge collections.Cheers Mike

Jim
09-17-2012, 08:34 PM
Yeah, I saw that and fired a PM at him.

shotman
09-17-2012, 08:46 PM
the little ones are most likely a 9mm kursh what we call a 380 cant tell as in the clip
the kursh has a small rim. It works in are 380s but shell holders dont . dont matter as most were berden primed
the rifle stuff was a 91 straight bolt . have some and about half were half power do to age
they must have made billions in 1938 as most I have seen are 38

fatelk
09-17-2012, 08:56 PM
8x56R is right on the rifle ammo.

The pistol ammo is 9mm (9x19) made in Finland IIRC. Whatever you do don't shoot it, though. It's bland ammo with a plastic bullet with a steel ball in the tip. That steel ball will ruin your barrel. Been there, done that. It was made for a special blank smg barrel.

Alvarez Kelly
09-17-2012, 09:01 PM
Thanks for thinking of me guys! :-)

Lively Boy
09-17-2012, 09:13 PM
i have some of the 9mm stuff it shoots ok.never had any of the steel ball tips touch my barrel tho. the ball measures .223 on the stuff i have

Blacksmith
09-17-2012, 09:14 PM
Jim
Try the third one down on this page.
http://cartridgecollectors.org/?page=headstampcodes

07 (070) Ammunitionsfabriken Karlsborg, (Nammo/Vanäsverken), Sweden (also FFV Vanasverken, Karlsborg)

The one on the far right top row
http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/gallery2/v/Headstamp-Gallery/album06/?g2_GALLERYSID=b309bfd0dbcbdb11b677dffe814819b4

For the ones in the first picture you may learn something here if you read german.
http://home.scarlet.be/p.colmant/german-codes.htm

Jim
09-18-2012, 06:47 AM
8x56R is right on the rifle ammo.

The pistol ammo is 9mm (9x19) made in Finland IIRC. Whatever you do don't shoot it, though. It's bland ammo with a plastic bullet with a steel ball in the tip. That steel ball will ruin your barrel. Been there, done that. It was made for a special blank smg barrel.

Ha! No worries there! Don't own a nine. Even if I did, I wouldn't put unidentified stuff in my gun.

fatelk
09-18-2012, 08:13 AM
It's bland ammo with a plastic bullet
Oops, sorry. I meant BLANK ammo, not bland. I bought a bunch from Century several years ago, cheap. They advertised it as good plinking ammo. I fired one magazine through my Hi-Power but it wouldn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside. I then looked down the bore. It looked like a busy little leprechaun had been inside with a tiny little ball-peen hammer- totally ruined.

I did some research to find that this was fairly well known in some circles, and mine was not the first gun ruined. It is training ammo intended for a Finnish submachine gun with a special smoothbore barrel with a tapered muzzle. The plastic disintegrates and the tiny BB shoots out. In a regular barrel the plastic usually disintegrates and the BB bounces down the bore.

Long story short, I contacted Century, and after some pestering they had the gun sent to them for inspection (on their dime), and they ended up buying me a new barrel. They then changed their ad for the stuff, using the info I emailed them about it, word for word.:)