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abunaitoo
08-28-2012, 07:08 PM
Anyone know if the alliant 2400 powder is different from the Hercules 2400 powder?????

btroj
08-28-2012, 07:09 PM
Just newer manufacture. Word is that the newer stuff might be a bit faster burning than the old.

Great powder

Olevern
08-28-2012, 07:55 PM
Great powder for a number of uses, most particularly the .22 Hornet.

mstarling
08-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Is a great powder ... especially for magnum handgun thru .44 Rem Mag w cast boolits. Has been very successful for me with a pistol gassed AR in 300 BLK as well.

RobS
08-28-2012, 08:24 PM
There was an article I read detailing the two 2400's and they are close in burn rate and characteristics. Not much difference than what would be seen from lot to lot variation from what I gathered. All assuming the two powders are in good condition.

gbrown
08-28-2012, 08:38 PM
What a friend told me, lots of experience on his part, is that his best results with 2400 was always on the upper end of the load reccomendation. I found that out with .357 Magnum and .357 Herrett. I have seen similar posts--upper end of load data--from others on this forum.

Larry Gibson
08-28-2012, 10:33 PM
I ran a fairly comprehensive comparison of Hercules 2400 and Alliant 2400 measuring velocity and pressure.

Check it out in this thread; http://www.castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=72355&highlight=Hercules+alliant+2400

Larry Gibson

RobS
08-28-2012, 10:44 PM
Well there you go..........Larry backs up what I remember reading in an article some where along the way (internet). Be damned if I can remember where I read it???????? Larry's thread is much more indepth with all the pressure readings, accuracy testing and velocity measurements. Good work!!!

burntpowder
08-28-2012, 11:05 PM
Larry, thank you for the good job. I have a powder bar on my Star Progressive Loader that throws 9.5 grains of Hercules Herco. I just bought a 1# can of Alliant Herco and noticed it was throwing 10.2 grains of the Alliant Herco. Did you happen to check that these powders weigh the same? Would appreciate knowing when you have time. Burntpowder (Clovis Gibson)

runfiverun
08-29-2012, 01:17 AM
i have had weight differences in new cans of 2400 versus new cans of 2400 thought i had picked up a can of aa-2230 for a minute.

Larry Gibson
08-29-2012, 01:09 PM
I haven't measured Herco in numerous years. However, we must expect a weight to volume variation of many powders based on hunidity & temperature but mostly on lot to lot variation of the same powder. In the 2400 test I charges by weight not volume. I don't recall if there was a volume difference or how much of one, sorry. I can check as I've still got some of each powder used. However, it will be a while before I get my shop set up again as I'm mbuying/moving to a new place.

Larry Gibson

runfiverun
08-29-2012, 04:20 PM
thought you were in arizona allready
was wonderin why you hadn't changed your location.

burntpowder
08-29-2012, 05:22 PM
thank you Larry-burntpowder

abunaitoo
08-29-2012, 08:01 PM
Great test Larry.
I got two cans of the old Hercules.
Just about out of the alliant.

fecmech
08-29-2012, 09:25 PM
Larry, thank you for the good job. I have a powder bar on my Star Progressive Loader that throws 9.5 grains of Hercules Herco. I just bought a 1# can of Alliant Herco and noticed it was throwing 10.2 grains of the Alliant Herco. Did you happen to check that these powders weigh the same? Would appreciate knowing when you have time. Burntpowder (Clovis Gibson)
I recently ran into the same thing with some newer Bullseye but this was new Alliant to some 4 yr old Alliant and Hercules BE. The bushing I've used for the past 20 yrs or so on my CH Auto Champ threw 4.2/BE (which is my std RN .38 spl load) and my newest 4 lb. keg of Alliant BE was 4.6 grs. Made me pretty nervous until I chrono'd the 4.6/BE load. The 4.6 load had identical 900 fps velocity and es and sd of the 4.2/BE load that I've been using forever. Same gun, cases, primers,and velocity so I don't see how the pressures can be much different. It will be interesting to see what the next keg will be.