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Beagle333
08-13-2012, 04:50 PM
These are from a custom mold (not my own), based on the 358430. This mold is a little different in that the original Lyman had 3 lube grooves and no crimp groove, and this custom one has 2 lube grooves and a crimp groove. It's a pretty neat looking bullet and weighs in at a whopping 195 grains as cast in 50% WW and 50% Pb. (drops at .360)

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I discovered immediately that they are a real bear to size to .358 while unlubed. So I tumbled them in some Alox and let that dry overnight, then sized them in my Lee push-thru sizer in my hand press. I thought I was gonna have to go shove em through the Challenger press, but after the Alox they were really easy to do and it was comfortable to size a bunch of them with the hand press while sitting around watching the Olympics.
I also discovered that I should have spritzed the Alox in the tub before putting in the bullets to tumble, because some of it dripped into the lube grooves and is wasted, because it doesn't tumble back out. I think it would have coated just the driving bands if I had applied it to the tub first. (I only used one quick swirly squirt of it anyway) Sorry, volume of "one quick swirly squirt" not available at this printing.

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After they were sized, I dip lubed them in some TAC#1 bullet lube and cooled them on some wax paper. I double dipped em to make sure the grooves were full, but probably could have gotten away with a single dip. It didn't really matter, all excess went back in the melting pot anyway. This was the first batch that was dipped before sizing. I quickly learned that it is less messy to dip after sizing.


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I had to make a "cake cutter" because I didn't own one, and I discovered that the bullet seating stem on my Lee Whack-a-mole loader is exactly the right size to stretch a case out to accommodate a .358 bullet. I drilled the primer and added the high tech nail. Perhaps maybe later I'll fancy it up a bit with a ball point pen spring over the nail and a wooden knob on the sharp end. It works though.

If you try making one like this...... Do NOT drive the seating stem very far into the case at once. Lube it well and tap in, pull out... repeat. If you drive it all the way to the bottom, you ain't gettin it back out.

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Beagle333
08-13-2012, 04:54 PM
They look pretty neat loaded in a .38 case with a +P load of Unique and they are pretty fun in my GP100. :D They do shoot about 2-1/2" lower than my normal .357 loads, but do group well.

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Beagle333
08-13-2012, 05:03 PM
Here are some of them loaded in the .357 cases. I did have to crimp up on the front driving band a little to get a comfortable amount of clearance for my cylinder.

I'm using Unique in them. And today I tried them from 5.0 up to the max and it didn't seem to matter about where they hit. Still 2-1/2" low. That wouldn't be a problem if I were to shoot them a lot, I could just adjust to that.
But I think they shoot the most comfortable at 5.3 or 5.5 and don't shove back as much.:mrgreen:

I'm pretty happy with them, but they are kinda wasted on my cardboard targets. I'm going to find something fun to shoot when I take them out again. Maybe some boards or various items the locals leave at the county dumpster (1/4 mi. from me)
[It's a great source of target material. I'm always bringing something home and taking it back in a highly perforated condition.];)
But overall, I have really enjoyed getting the opportunity to try these out. This mold will go on my list of "wants". [smilie=s:

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Michael J. Spangler
08-13-2012, 08:24 PM
sexy!!