45 Long Colt

[evil5826]

Using the Lee C452-300-RF to cast 300grn bullets to use in 45 Long Colt brass.
Having some issues finding out what powder to use for casull rounds that work with standard Small Rifle Primers. That being said I came here to see if any one knows any good powder that works with the suggested standard Large Pistol primers that ignites without any issues when it comes to the 45 Long Colt.

In total the bullets weigh out to be 314grns after they have been gas-checked and lubed.

CCI Large Pistol Primers

Ruger Super Red Hawk

Hodgdon data suggests
HS-6 9-10grns using 300 GR. SIE JFP
Universal 6.6-7.3 using 300 GR. SIE JFP
Titegroup 5.2-5.8 using 300 GR. SIE JFP

Alliant data suggests
Does not seem to have any thing that will take care of a 300grn bullet for a 45 long colt.
For a Casull, the 2400 powder 27grns using 300 gr Speer GDHP will work.

Accurate Powder does not have any data for a Long Colt 300grn bullet unless you get into the section called "45 Colt Ruger & T/C Contender Only" which I don't think the Ruger Super Red Hawk falls into, only the black hawk. I say this because of the remark on Hodgdon's site "The data is intended for 45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk, Freedom Arms, and Thompson Center Contender/Encore Handguns. Max pressure, 30,000 CUP. ". If I am wrong please correct me. I am still learning about rimmed cartridges.

[ShooterAZ]

Standard Large Pistol primers should work fine for all of the powders you listed.

[trappst]

Your Ruger Super Redhawk 454 will handle any of the "ruger only" 45 colt loads.


I shot some of the Lee 300 RF with Trail boss (454 cases) a few days ago....no gas checks. Accuracy was pretty good at 25 yards with very little recoil. Just a plinker load that I will work more with when I can.

I'm planning on trying 2400 w/gas checks to speed things up in the 454 cases. My j-word load is H110 pushing 250g Barnes XPB's lit off by CCI mag small rifle primers.

[runfiverun]

your redhawk wll handle those loads easily.
for the colt loads with cci primers, unique and 2400 will work very well.
same for the casull.
use the jaxketed data, back things down, and work up untill you find the accuracy node that works best for you.

[evil5826]

Your Ruger Super Redhawk 454 will handle any of the "ruger only" 45 colt loads.


If thats the case Hodgdon reports that:
21.8-22.2grns of H110 will work with 300 GR. SPR JFP

[45-70 Chevroner]

The Super Red Hawk is ever bit as strong as the Black Hawk. You mentioned using Small Rifle primers I'm sure that was a mistake. I use standard Large Pistol primers for all my 45 colt shooting. As runfiverun said Unique, 2400 even Red Dot and 700X and the ones you mentioned will work just fine.

[evil5826]

The Super Red Hawk is ever bit as strong as the Black Hawk. You mentioned using Small Rifle primers I'm sure that was a mistake. I use standard Large Pistol primers for all my 45 colt shooting. As runfiverun said Unique, 2400 even Red Dot and 700X and the ones you mentioned will work just fine.

The small rifle primers were in reference to my casull load. Trying to figure that one out as well. Getting the correct powder with the correct SR primer ie regular or magnum. But thats a different post all together.

[evil5826]

your redhawk wll handle those loads easily.
for the colt loads with cci primers, unique and 2400 will work very well.
same for the casull.
use the jaxketed data, back things down, and work up untill you find the accuracy node that works best for you.

Since Alliant doesn't have data for a 300grn Long Colt bullet... How much should be used?

HandLoads dot com suggests 11.3grns of 2400 for a XTP 300grn bullet

[High Desert Hunter]

From my Hodgdon Manual #26, Alliant 2400, 300gr JSP, 18grs to start, 19.5grs max, 325gr JSP is 1/2 grain less for start and max.

[evil5826]

From my Hodgdon Manual #26, Alliant 2400, 300gr JSP, 18grs to start, 19.5grs max, 325gr JSP is 1/2 grain less for start and max.

That manual seems to be the holy grail. Seen it referenced all over the place. Just ordered it myself.

[45-70 Chevroner]

The small rifle primers were in reference to my casull load. Trying to figure that one out as well. Getting the correct powder with the correct SR primer ie regular or magnum. But thats a different post all together.

I read it several times and just did not get it. Getting old I guess. I'll read it again maybe the light will come.[smilie=b:

[45-70 Chevroner]

The small rifle primers were in reference to my casull load. Trying to figure that one out as well. Getting the correct powder with the correct SR primer ie regular or magnum. But thats a different post all together.

Got it.:D

[trappst]

Don't know if it'll help you, but I use CCI mag SR primer w/H110. All my other loads with 454 cases get Rem 7.5 BR primers

I've never had an issue with ignition

[evil5826]

From my Hodgdon Manual #26, Alliant 2400, 300gr JSP, 18grs to start, 19.5grs max, 325gr JSP is 1/2 grain less for start and max.

Quick question. Just got that book and I noticed that some bullets have a starting data box but the max data box is empty. Does that mean that there is no max and you can keep going or does that mean you can only do the starting amount and thats it.

[trappst]

Kinda hard to read sideways........but, my guess would be that due to the light bullet weights you can't get any more powder in the case.

Pressure max is never reached with the available powder capacity.

[evil5826]

From my Hodgdon Manual #26, Alliant 2400, 300gr JSP, 18grs to start, 19.5grs max, 325gr JSP is 1/2 grain less for start and max.

Just noticed something weird. Alliant 2400 does not show up in my Hodgdon Manual #26. Matter of fact at the time this was published Alliant was called Hercules.