Crate of New Winchester 1894 Saddle Ring Carbines

[Phineas Bluster]

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[grubbylabs]

would be nice to have that kind of money once in a while. Those are quite the find.

[ColColt]

That's over $21K per Winchester...utterly amazing anyone would spend that kind of money. Further amazing anyone has that kind of money to spend on 10 rifles.

[geargnasher]

I can't imagine spending that kind of money on something I'd never be able to shoot. Those belong in a museum, posed just like in the last pic.

Gear

[Hardcast416taylor]

Being as they are in a crate from the factory. My W.A.G. would be that they are consecutively serial numbered.Robert

[runfiverun]

just looking at those brought a tear to my eye.
when i seen the selling price the other eye dropped a tear.

[Longwood]

I bought them.[smilie=w:
I will sell you one for only $75.000.00.
You can have the crate for a measly, $12.950.00.

[Edit]
If you buy two,,, then you will have one too carry in your pik-up truck.

[KYCaster]

I bought them.[smilie=w:
I will sell you one for only $75.000.00.
You can have the crate for a measly, $12.950.00.

[Edit]
If you buy two,,, then you will have one too carry in your pik-up truck.



I own two pick-up trucks so send me four of the rifles.

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Ummmmmmmmmm.............on second thought, you only have one crate..........

........so just forget it! :coffee:

Jerry

[6pt-sika]

Being as they are in a crate from the factory. My W.A.G. would be that they are consecutively serial numbered.Robert

More then likely not .

I've seen a couple of the old crates with a seriel number card still attached (but the guns LONG GONE) and typically they might have a couple sequential but they weren't all that way .

[6pt-sika]

The last catalouge I got from Leroy Merz had a couple empty Winchester crates in the back for sale and it seems to me he was asking over a grand each for them !

[waksupi]

I know the guy who bought these. If he holds true to form, he will most likely donate them to a museum.

[725]

Wow. What a piece of history.

[MBTcustom]

Its the fact that they exist in that form. Truly amazing.

[MtGun44]

Does anybody have any idea when they were made? There has got to be some
interesting story on how they came to be held together and never sold.

Bill

[shovel80]

ALL I Can Say is WOW!!

Terry

[LUCKYDAWG13]

wow is that cool thanks for the pic

[Leslie Sapp]

Very likely from a motion picture studio prop inventory. I saw an article a few years back about a prop room at MGM. The author spoke of unbroken cases of Trapdoor Springfields and old leverguns, acquired by the studio in the 1920'-30's.

[405]

Mercy! That Adams' collection auction was something else! Did a quick background search on that crate and one source said it came from a stash in Oregon. Also said that it wasn't the only complete crate of Winchesters involved. There was also mention of a similar crate of Winchester 1895s. The serial numbers listed for the crate of 94s put the DOM at 1923, but they were not consecutive, save maybe two? No matter, just one 1923 NIB Winchester lever would get my attention, never mind a crate of 10.

[HighHook]

I appreciate all my old levers with the unknown of all the meat that was possibly put on the dinner tables...:D

[OverMax]

For that kind of money >$218,500.00< for 10 old model 30-30s or $21,850.00 each. I'll keep and use what I already have. At least I know I can hit what I aim at with mine.

[GOPHER SLAYER]

When MGM auctioned off its props in the late 1960s, many of the guns were bought by Martin Redding's Gun Shop which is located a few doors down the street in Culver City. You may be surprised to learn that many of the lever action saddle ring carbines you see in old movies were not Winchesters at all but rather Spanish copies. Redding was asking fifty dollars each for the rifles at the time. He had a lot of them. Those rifles looked to be of good quality but I owned a Spanish copy that was pure trash. Some were made in cottage industries and some were made in factories. Mine was given to me so I couldn't complain. The rifles were called El Tigre. They were all chambered for the 44-40 cartridge.

[405]

Oh yes, almost forgot about the El Tigres! They still show up now and then for sale on different sites. In the movies it's impossible to tell the difference. Then again, Hollywood sometimes isn't so subtle. While I like watching the old "Rifleman" episodes, it's hard to miss Lucas' loop lever M1892 set in the 1870s! Or the series "Big Valley" where all the lever guns appear to be Marlin 336s. :)

[hightime]

Did ya see the cross bolt safety? LOL

Owen

[winchester85]

a local guy has an 1894 winchester made in 1895 i believe. it has upgraded wood, half magazine, take down, shotgun but, octagon barrel. obviously a special order, it appears to have never been shot, if it has, it wasnt much. i would rate its condition at 99%. there is a cody letter to go with it that says it is worth a minimum of $25k. it is beautiful. it was on consignment listed at $30k.

[405]

Did ya see the cross bolt safety? LOL

Owen

I think the series was shot before the lawyer safeties but I thought I caught the glint of a "Gold Trigger" on one.

[waksupi]

As an off topic note, I just got a message from a friend of mine. He is at the 102 birthday of Arthur Gardner, the original producer of the television series "The Rifleman" back in the 1960's.

[smokeywolf]

Worked on the MGM Studio lot (lot 1) for 22 years; ran the Studio Machine Shop. Used to walk by the gun vault frequently (right next to the water tower); never got to peek inside.

Few Winchesters, if any, were '94s. '92s were preferred because of the use of 5-in-1 blanks, and a camera shot of the muzzle of a 44-40 was more impressive than that of a 30-30. Also, just like it was convenient for the working westerner to carry the same cartridge for his pistol and rifle, the studios were able to use 5-in-1s for both.

If I had more money than I knew what to do with. (Please forgive that last preposition) I would buy that crate full of '94s just to keep it out of the hands of someone who might break it up.
Thanks for the pictures.

smokeywolf

[Montana Ron]

Most of the studio stuff is gone..........they dumped it to a guy in Washington and I bought 9 sharps rifles from him and a big crate of parts for TD's and Sharps.........the colt stuff was instantly gone and most of the junk Colts running through Cody are studio guns......these guns
all were seriously abused more then any cowboy or military man would abuse a weapon.........I couldn't find 10 guns to buy that were complete or busted up pieces.........the 92's and 94's
got gobbled up bu some rebuilders from what I was told but found some marked in Washington at the Puallop Show years ago............

[Bret4207]

I know the guy who bought these. If he holds true to form, he will most likely donate them to a museum.

I cannot imagine having so much money I could do that with near a quarter million dollars. Must be some impressive tax write off involved!

[GOPHER SLAYER]

As long as we are lamenting the abuse and loss of old Winchesters I might as well share my thoughts on a really depressing old news real I saw on TV a few years ago. The film was made during prohibition and it showed the Chicago Police breaking up barrels and bottles of booze and then it showed the police on a boat throwing armloads of Winchester lever action rifles into Lake Michiigon. After that they began to pick up all the pistols they could hold in their hands and pitch them in the water. I am sure they really cut down on the murder rate in Chicago. GAG, PUCK. That's as eloquent as I can express it.