where to get Antimony ??

[Willee]

If I want to alloy some lead I see I can get Tin on ebay.

Where do most of you get the Antimony to mix in?

Willee

[imashooter2]

The high melting temperature of antimony makes it difficult to work with in elemental form. Most folks buy it already alloyed in a form that will easily melt at casting pot temperatures. Linotype, monotype or Rotometal's "Super Hard" are examples.

[NuJudge]

High Antimony Lead shot. I would not want to try to get Antimony directly into solution.

[williamwaco]

See:

http://www.rotometals.com/Bullet-Casting-Alloys-s/5.htm

ALSO

Note that Rotometals pays shipping on orders over $100.00

Doesn't take much tin and antimony to get to a hundred bux.

[quilbilly]

I watch the garage sales and gun shows for hard lead shot to alloy with pure lead. That will take care of the need for antimony and part of the tin. The rest of the tin I get from solder or lead free (100% tin) sinkers from Wal Mart.

[rhouser]

Lead Free Sinkers???? New to me. thanks rc

[ku4hx]

I tried getting elemental Antimony into a melt once. After that, I bought high Antimony lead shot since I could get it locally. I did buy some of Rotometals' "Super Hard Alloy"; it's a good product.

[felix]

Do not play with pure arsenic or antimony at home. Buy it within some mainly lead or tin, or both. ... felix

[David Bachelder]

As mentioned above, rotometals offers a product called Super Hard. Its a lead and antimony alloy. Thats what I use.

SuperHard (http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/30_antimony_70_lead.htm)

Its 30/70 Antimony/Lead alloy. Melts like lead and makes a great Lyman#2 alloy. Just toss in 5% tin (http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/tinhighgradepcs.htm) (also available at rotometals).

The tin is a bit pricey, but its good stuff.

[daschnoz]

Lead free solder.

I have seen 90/10, 95/5, and 50/50 (tin/antimony)

[imashooter2]

I have never seen 50/50 tin/antimony solder. Are you sure?

[Skipper]

http://www.pexsupply.com/Generic-SOLD50-50-50-50-Solder-1-lb-Spool-50-Tin-50-Antimony

[Iron Mike Golf]

I use range lead (assayed at 2% Sb by the guys who smelt it), monotype, and pewter. I can mix those and get pretty much any combination of Pb, Sb, and Sn I want.

[imashooter2]

http://www.pexsupply.com/Generic-SOLD50-50-50-50-Solder-1-lb-Spool-50-Tin-50-Antimony

No way anyone is selling 50/50 tin/antimony solder for 18 bucks a pound. That's a bad product description of 50/50 tin/lead solder.

[Skipper]

That's a bad product description of 50/50 tin/lead solder.




Here's their specs:

Material: 50% Antimony 50% Tin
Application: Plumbing
Size: 1 lb

[imashooter2]

Here's their specs:

Material: 50% Antimony 50% Tin
Application: Plumbing
Size: 1 lb

Yeah, taken straight from the bad product description on the Pex Supply Company web site with a picture of a roll of 95/5 lead free in it.

Go to the Victory White Metal Company web site and they don't have an MSDS for it, neither can you find it for sale anywhere other than Pex. Rotometals doesn't have it. Grainger doesn't have it. McMaster-Carr doesn't have it.

Nope, I'm not convinced yet.

[Skipper]

Note on the product page:

**Note: Image shown may not depict actual product


In any case, it's real easy to find out:


https://www.pexsupply.com/contact

[imashooter2]

:roll:

[Gibson]

H*ll, I email 'em. Answer tomorrow :)

If they assure me it's true, I'll get back to you in a week or two. . . J/K. But if you check SHIPPING it might go a way toward explaining. I checked shipping on a single # and it was almost the price of the product, LOL. Well, it was 12.00

Correction, even 29.75/lb seems WAY too cheap.

[Gibson]

Here's what I got in reply:

"Hello, J. Yes, that solder would be 50% tin and 50% antimony. I have posted the link to the MSDS sheet the manufacturer provided for the no lead solder. You can always give them a call if you have any other specific product questions on the material make up of the unit.

http://www.vwmc.com/msds/MSDS_LEAD_FREE_BODY_SOLDER.pdf

Nicole
PexSupply.com"

Take it for what it's worth.

[imashooter2]

Here's what I got in reply:

"Hello, J. Yes, that solder would be 50% tin and 50% antimony. I have posted the link to the MSDS sheet the manufacturer provided for the no lead solder. You can always give them a call if you have any other specific product questions on the material make up of the unit.

http://www.vwmc.com/msds/MSDS_LEAD_FREE_BODY_SOLDER.pdf

Nicole
PexSupply.com"

Take it for what it's worth.

I notice that the MSDS says it is 95/5...

[whisler]

That MSDS shows less than 3% zinc, less than 20% copper, less than 0.1% antimony and the balance tin. Where did they get 50/50 tin/antimony?

[imashooter2]

That MSDS shows less than 3% zinc, less than 20% copper, less than 0.1% antimony and the balance tin. Where did they get 50/50 tin/antimony?

Yes, my mistake. I quickly read the <20% as <2%. So the MSDS does not call it 95/5, but it sure doesn't call it 50/50 either. The Victory White Metal Company has MSDS sheets for all their products listed on the web site, but as I said yesterday, none of them are for a 50/50 tin/antimony solder.

[Gibson]

I told you I would email them and ask if them what was the truth value of the heading. That is precisely the response I received. AGAIN, Take it for what it's worth.

The MSDS linked seems to indicate that there is almost no antimony present, <0.1%

[imashooter2]

I told you I would email them and ask if them what was the truth value of the heading. That is precisely the response I received. AGAIN, Take it for what it's worth.

The MSDS linked seems to indicate that there is almost no antimony present, <0.1%

I wasn't trying to give you a hard time. You did what you said you would do. My comments were intended for the misrepresented product on the Pex site, and even worse, the incorrect response from the Pex "technician."

I've looked around. 50/50 tin/antimony solder does not exist.

[Moonman]

Willie,

You need to do a bunch of reading about smelting and making alloys before you have a serous accident.

READ the STICKIES on this site.

TRY the STICKY "From Ingot To Target"

Lots of GREAT info in that article, it will save you much grief.