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melloairman
05-08-2012, 12:43 AM
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn55/melloroadman/IMG_7070-Copy.jpg

MtGun44
05-08-2012, 12:51 AM
the really short ones are called "collar buttons" but this is
just another name for a short wadcutter.

Bill

Horace
05-08-2012, 04:10 AM
What mold is it from?

Horace

ku4hx
05-08-2012, 06:35 AM
Might depend on which end you put into the case. A wadcutter with an awesome bevel base or a plain base [short] truncated cone.

gray wolf
05-08-2012, 09:26 AM
NO I would not.

melloairman
05-08-2012, 10:01 AM
I had it tapered to have better air flow for better accuracy for longer distances . With the tapper going forward . With out the cutting edge did not know what to call it . It is a Accurate mold that I had Tom make in 45 and 38 calibers for use in my AR . Marvin
http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=45-170W-D.png

finishman2000
05-08-2012, 10:08 AM
i would

melloairman
05-08-2012, 12:40 PM
I have refereed to it as a WFNWC .

williamwaco
05-08-2012, 02:44 PM
Yes! If you load that bevel into the case.
No! If you load that bevel forward.

melloairman
05-08-2012, 03:48 PM
Ok . So to those that would not call it a WC with the bevel loaded out . What would you call it? Marvin

375RUGER
05-08-2012, 04:07 PM
Just curious. what do you call longer distances?

melloairman
05-08-2012, 04:43 PM
50 -100 yards . Shooting at 800 - 1000 fps.

geargnasher
05-08-2012, 07:31 PM
I would NOT call that a wadcutter. It is a TC design, perhaps a WIDE TC design, and will not cut paper as cleanly as a true wadcutter or even semi-wadcutter with a sharp, full-diameter nose or nose band. That is, unless you load them backwards as was mentioned.

Gear

1Shirt
05-08-2012, 07:55 PM
Ah yes, what's in a name?
1Shirt!:coffee:

williamwaco
05-08-2012, 10:00 PM
Ok . So to those that would not call it a WC with the bevel loaded out . What would you call it? Marvin

Truncated Cone.
Perhaps Truncated Truncated Cone.


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Larry Gibson
05-08-2012, 10:30 PM
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn55/melloroadman/IMG_7070-Copy.jpg

On this forum? Something as simple as WD? I hope not:smile:

What you haveis fine example of a WFNTCWC IF that is the nose that's showing.

If it's the base then you have a BBWC[smilie=l:

Larry Gibson

melloairman
05-08-2012, 11:15 PM
I never thought of it as a TC . But do see how it could be now . Just did not fill I was 100 percent right about the WC . It is loaded with the bevel toward the muzzle and it stacks the bullets at 50 yards which is as far as I have tested them . But loaded in reverse they did not do well and I was glade I had the bevel put on . Had enough failures as is . Think I might keep it simple and call it a WFN .Marvin

Piedmont
05-09-2012, 03:02 AM
I would call it a wadcutter. Now that bullet in your avatar would be a truncated cone. Does a paper target call the bullet in question a wadcutter? That is what counts, not what any of us think.

Hardcast416taylor
05-09-2012, 11:19 AM
How about? "Flying trash can with lid?Robert

williamwaco
05-09-2012, 12:23 PM
One last comment.

A wadcutter is designed to cut a round, sharp edged, caliber sized hole in the paper for easy scoring.

Fired bevel forward, that bullet will NOT do that. It will cut a smaller than caliber sized, ragged hole like a truncated cone or even like a round nose.

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geargnasher
05-09-2012, 01:21 PM
One last comment.

A wadcutter is designed to cut a round, sharp edged, caliber sized hole in the paper for easy scoring.

Fired bevel forward, that bullet will NOT do that. It will cut a smaller than caliber sized, ragged hole like a truncated cone or even like a round nose.

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My point, exactly. By definition it cannot be a wadcutter. The nose is a cone with the point cut off, therefore it most likely fits the definition of Truncated Cone. It is not a WFN because all of those have a tangent radius ogive, and this one has a straight tangent ogive.

Gear

bigboredad
05-09-2012, 02:13 PM
I would call it the mrm170gr. For mellowroadman 170gr

melloairman
05-09-2012, 04:03 PM
My point, exactly. By definition it cannot be a wadcutter. The nose is a cone with the point cut off, therefore it most likely fits the definition of Truncated Cone. It is not a WFN because all of those have a tangent radius ogive, and this one has a straight tangent ogive.

Gear
Gear would STC be the politically correct name that I should use ? Marvin

melloairman
05-10-2012, 10:47 AM
I have read through this again . If is seems correct to the majority WTC [ W=wide ] Thanks Marvin

turbo1889
05-12-2012, 11:42 PM
If you called it a wad cutter (WC) I wouldn't argue with you. If, however, you called it a full wad cutter (FWC) I would indeed argue that such would not be the case unless you loaded it backwards as a bevel base.

Full means "FULL".

geargnasher
05-13-2012, 02:38 AM
I have read through this again . If is seems correct to the majority WTC [ W=wide ] Thanks Marvin

Seems the best term to me, FWIW.

Gear

ColColt
05-13-2012, 06:53 PM
The one on the left-now, this is a wadcutter...44 cal style.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x220/ColColt/Misc%20Stuff/_DEF3948.jpg