30-1

[MLR]

I am using 30-1 alloy in my pot for my black powder rifles. I plan on using the same alloy for my 44 special light loads. Could I get away with using this blend in my 30-40 krag? Anyone tried this? It would sure make things alot easier.

Michael

[Bass Ackward]

It can require you to change your brand of lube or hold your velocity down is all, but you can make it work. Especially if you are using a GC.

[DonH]

Michael;

We single shot (read schuetzen) shooters shoot plain base bullets of 1-20 to 1-30 aloys in the 1400 - 1500 fps range without leading. Powders used are slower pistol powders, from Accurate #7 through 4227 or 4759. A gas check probably allow a couple hundred mor fps with 1-30 alloy with the same powders or maybe into the fast rifle powder range. I personally load 14.5 gr of 4227 behind a 220 gr .321 bullet cast of 1-25 alloy so the of-mentioned charge o 16 gr of 2400 behind a gas-checked 1-30 bullet shouldn't be a problem with good lube in a .30-40 if the bore is decent.

[Newtire]

Michael;

Powders used are slower pistol powders, from Accurate #7 through 4227 or 4759.

Hi Don H,
You are the first person I have seen that makes mention of using AA#7 in a rifle. I know you mentioned .32-40 but was thinking of maybe using this in reduced loads in .30-30. I have a pound which is sitting not being useful for anything I shoot. Just would like to have an idea if anyone has gone this route in .30-30 or anything else for that matter.

[MLR]

Thanks guys i will give it a try.

Michael

[DonH]

Newtire;

In fairness, I have not used AA#7 personally. Maybe I shoud not have included it in a post in which i talked about the .32-40. The guys I know about who use or have used #7 were using it in smaller cases, albeit in the same lead bullet aplications. I have used H-108 (which is virtually the same as AA#9) And many use #9. It works well in the .32-40 and I see no reason why it would not work equally well in .30-30 since case capacity is similar. With either of these ball powders (or any of the pistol powders ecxepting 4759) beware of double-charging in the size case in question. With H-108, or WC820, which is essentially the same, I would start around 12.0 gr and work up. 13.0 grains is about the heaviest charge I have heard mentioned.
These charges are used in CPAs, 44 1/2 Stevens, Win. 1885s, and more modern SS actions like the Miller, Peregrine, etc. They are not for Ballards.

Dale53 may be able to comment more on AA#7.

Don


BTW, the .30-30 sees some use in the type shooting I refer to here.

[Newtire]

Newtire;

In fairness, I have not used AA#7 personally.

Dale53 may be able to comment more on AA#7.



Thanks Don for clearing that up. AA#9 sounds logical but I haven't tried any of that in reduced loads yet.